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Description part of my fighting for? series where i depict kids in protest rallies... once again, do they know what they're fighting for?

i have to make it clear though that protests here in the philippines are almost always political in nature... its almost always a stab at the current administration... they use issues, be it about a war in a foreign land, price increase, wage increases, heck even the price of pan-de-sal (a bread common in the philippines) to throw mud at the current administration whoever is seated there... and most of the time... these protest rallies get disperesed... rather violently at times...

kids have no place in rallies of this nature... they have no business marching with militants knowing that anytime rubber bullets or tear gas would rain down on them... they are victims of politicking... victims of mud throwing... this should not be.

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i've covered a LOT of protest rallies... and i mean a LOT! and almost always... these groups bring kids along... probably sons or daughters of members of militant groups... i really dont like this idea... in the first place... why bring these kids? do they know why they're there? do they know what they're fighting for?
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jaywuf [2005-06-18 14:04:47 +0000 UTC]

Perhaps tear gas and rubber bullets have no place being used on people - children or adults.

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misternow In reply to jaywuf [2005-06-18 18:58:49 +0000 UTC]

indeed.

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lains In reply to ??? [2005-06-18 13:40:17 +0000 UTC]

adults use children because it's supposed to drive home the "we want a good future for these kids look at them" factor. I hate it. On a different note, I also dislike it when beggars use children to get money, but I don't really know what to say about that because I don't know what the alternatives are.

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minniemae In reply to ??? [2005-06-18 13:31:28 +0000 UTC]

*sighs* That's outright wrong...using children to protest something they don't yet understand, or haven't formed their own opinions about. v_v I'm a Filipino too, so this specifically caught my eye. I do believe in the protest, that it has the right intentions (most protests do...I was there for the pan-de-sol protest)...but their using the wrong people to protest it. v.v; Especially in politics, children just shouldn't be dragged in.

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Taporbane [2005-06-18 13:20:53 +0000 UTC]

wow, and you're Filipino too!?

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misternow In reply to Taporbane [2005-06-18 19:17:29 +0000 UTC]

yes i am.

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HemophiliacInMe [2005-06-18 13:12:58 +0000 UTC]

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misternow In reply to HemophiliacInMe [2005-06-18 19:20:01 +0000 UTC]

thanks so much.

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XxLittleGrlLostxX In reply to ??? [2005-06-18 12:58:52 +0000 UTC]

[link] ! This is simply a good photograph, and those kids are AWSOME!!!!! +fave

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misternow In reply to XxLittleGrlLostxX [2005-06-18 19:20:52 +0000 UTC]

thanks

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discipleofmalice In reply to ??? [2005-06-18 12:58:21 +0000 UTC]

di man lulupig 'di ka pasisiil...

ka-akit-akit ang iyong gawa...

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misternow In reply to discipleofmalice [2005-06-18 19:23:10 +0000 UTC]

maraming salamat!

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iyami-kun In reply to ??? [2005-06-18 12:44:45 +0000 UTC]

we looked alot of realy sad phptographs of children being used in protests, one exale being after teh cival war, and after sigrigation stopped in teh US, it was a littel white boy in a uniform that symbolized hatred of anyone who wasnt american, and he was looking up at a black gaurd with a big plastic shield, with a hand on teh shield, looking liek he was having fun, he wasnt oevr 2 years old, tops.
hardly anyoen under 18 could possibly understand what tehy are fighting for
ebcuase most people under 18 dont know what they like, or who they are, or where tey stand on any issues, tehrye just kids! i am one of the few younger people who actually knows exactlywho they are, but i think its wrong to get kids to protest anything!
speaking of kids, if the USovernments lowers teh oteing age, i am going to be sooo pissed >.<;;
14 and 15 year olds just sit tehre and belive anyhing their parents say about teh government, they have no right to vote if they dont have a mind of their own.. im lucky my parents are Libratains and anti-conformists

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SoothsayerAyzahar In reply to iyami-kun [2005-06-19 08:11:42 +0000 UTC]

what are libratains?
also, there is no such thing as an anti-conformist. The fact that your parents are Libratains means that they belong to one or another organization, or a mass (more than one) belief system, thus, they are the very antithesis of their anti-conformity. Think about it

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iyami-kun In reply to SoothsayerAyzahar [2005-06-21 10:29:00 +0000 UTC]

libratrian is uhm, hard to explain o.o but uhm.. x3 its a big (but true) joke that librals are just the ignorant version of libratarians, to give you an idea xD
and libratarians basically belive that theonly governing the US really needs is the US consititution, and that the currennt givernment is corrupt, clueless, and goes way too far wasy too often~ that theyve lost site of whats really important, they focus to o much on the rules andnot enough on Why the rules were made and such

not exactly what i ment xD by anti-conformist, i mean, they actually ground me if i dont stick up for whta i personally belive in, and if i do something ebcuase other poeple think its good and i dont, but they dont seem to notice that my brother is a sheeple ._. (sheeple: sheep people: people who fallow the heard: losers who wana be popular or whatever) i wasnt being litteral xD;

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SoothsayerAyzahar In reply to iyami-kun [2005-06-21 19:09:56 +0000 UTC]

liberal-libertarians are called anarchists.

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iyami-kun In reply to SoothsayerAyzahar [2005-06-21 20:16:38 +0000 UTC]

no they arent, and librals and libratarians are completly differentthings, a libratarian cant be libral taht doesnt make any sense o.o;; and an anarchist is someone who wants no governt or rule at all, whichi think is stupid ebcuase realalisticcly it couldntw ork, and all libratarians know/belive that.
here ill make it simple:
Anarchist: "i want no rules, no governtment, fuck off all of you!"
Libratarian: "i Know rules are nessarary, but we have too many. i only want what we Need, nothing extra! The US had the constitution for a reason, to be used, ALONE, you government jerks need to stop telling us what we can or cant watch on TV, tahstgoingway too far!"
they want rule, but they want freedom. simple, right? freedom within realalistic terms. in a way everyone can stay in peace, and everyone can still have choices too~

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SoothsayerAyzahar In reply to iyami-kun [2005-06-21 21:05:27 +0000 UTC]

your smarter than i know..
But don't ever underestimate our president. I support him ... not because of his politics, but because he convinced people htat he is indeed stupid...and won...he's a shrewd politician,and a brilliant psychologist whether he knwos it or not

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iyami-kun In reply to SoothsayerAyzahar [2005-06-22 10:12:55 +0000 UTC]

if he doesnt know it mayeb he isnt that brilliant, unless hes atleats sdoiniton perps subconicously, i know he isnt stupid, how oculd he be? but you do have a point~
eh i may be above average but being smart is yur ability to learn and you phrased it worng o_o
i think you ment i know more than you expected? maybe o.O i know alota stuff, but i dont like political debates that last this long xP short attentionspan

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SoothsayerAyzahar In reply to iyami-kun [2005-06-22 17:09:01 +0000 UTC]

lol speaking of bad grammar.

I don't like the double standard that everyone can forgive a democrat but never a conservative.

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SoothsayerAyzahar In reply to iyami-kun [2005-06-21 19:06:20 +0000 UTC]

Actually most if not all libertarians support the Republican administration, more than libreal one. my cousin works for the Libertarian party.

And are you not a sheeple? do you not strive for popularity within your circle?

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iyami-kun In reply to SoothsayerAyzahar [2005-06-21 20:27:19 +0000 UTC]

none of the ones i know suport republicans, ew. i know i dont, and my dad doesnt. they Used to, but republicans have changed alot recently, now tey act liek democrats used to. i stopped keeping up with politics closley becuase i got sick of arguing iwth the ignorant buggers from school e_e "cinton is way cool, he tight yo, bush screwed everythin up, not clinton, and cush shoulda lost the last election too, karry shoulda won cu he dont suck" they dont care what he did, just ebcuase he was freindly they think hes cool, ive gotta give cinton credit though, hes Really good at manipulating teh masses, it is very impressive, but i still dislike him greatly for being a horrible president liek he was o.O
okay i dont adore bush, but hes better than linton and karry put together, im not pro bush, but by comparison to all of his competition in the past, im sooo glad he won

i dont even have a circle, i hardlyahve freinds at all, and no im not, i despise the idea of leiing so anyone will like me, ever! its awful ._. i belive, aboveall, i should be me no matter what, and if poeple liek me they do and if tehy dont they dont, simple.

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SoothsayerAyzahar In reply to iyami-kun [2005-06-21 21:04:05 +0000 UTC]

so you and your father are ultra-conservatives?

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iyami-kun In reply to SoothsayerAyzahar [2005-06-22 10:09:14 +0000 UTC]

no not at all x_X auh nevermind, i suck at explaining things..

look it up xD its a simple deifnition to an uncommon term

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SoothsayerAyzahar In reply to iyami-kun [2005-06-22 17:10:14 +0000 UTC]

If your going to defend the prime principle of the consitutional value, that means that you are an ultra conservative in the aspect that you believe that the founding fathers were absolutely correct at how things should be done...the only major party supporting the constitutional rights, are the republicans and libertarians...

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iyami-kun In reply to SoothsayerAyzahar [2005-06-26 10:00:59 +0000 UTC]

not absolutly, but mostly, dont get me wrong, i am a libratarian, but i have my own persoanl opinionon each indevidual subject, i am going to belive what i want to whetehr my party lieks it or not o.O unliek SOME congress members -coughs- or all..

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SoothsayerAyzahar In reply to iyami-kun [2005-06-26 19:32:51 +0000 UTC]

Still, the older you get the more conservative you get. Experience, plus knowledge does that to you.

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J-man121 [2005-06-18 12:41:09 +0000 UTC]

great work!

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Gosujin In reply to ??? [2005-06-18 12:27:24 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, children are not to be involved politically into stuff like that: like teaching them from a young age that dictators are "presidents" and that USA are bad bad bad! I'm tired of this...

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laika13 In reply to ??? [2005-06-18 12:13:25 +0000 UTC]

Man, our country is to the dogs. Great piece, kabayan.

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misternow In reply to laika13 [2005-06-18 12:16:46 +0000 UTC]

thanks kabayan. the philippines is still awesome... the people, the sceneries, everything else in between is still awesome... but politics... now thats a different thing all together...

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laika13 In reply to misternow [2005-06-18 12:28:28 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. Lalo na dito sa Mindanao; 2 percent lang naman ang "problematic", pero nasa-stunt ang development dito dahil sa prejudice ng mga tao, at pati na rin ng sarili nating gobyerno.

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misternow In reply to laika13 [2005-06-18 12:31:14 +0000 UTC]

i agree. i went there, sa Lanao to cover an event dati. its a very beautiful place. na-hype lang masyado sa media yung violence dati pero isolated events naman yun. actually mindanao is one of my favorite places na napuntahan.

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laika13 In reply to misternow [2005-06-18 13:47:03 +0000 UTC]

Salamat po.

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misternow In reply to laika13 [2005-06-18 19:12:06 +0000 UTC]

walang ano man.

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damage-done In reply to ??? [2005-06-18 11:52:12 +0000 UTC]

Maybe you should spend your time railing against the authorities who make it dangerous to attend the rallies with their tear gas and rubber bullets instead of railing against those who have to bring their kids because they cant afford to hire a baby sitter.

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quel-droma In reply to damage-done [2005-06-18 12:45:27 +0000 UTC]

What kind of excuse is that?

First, I do not believe the danger is solely on the police. Protests often become mobs, and as the anatomy of a mob dictates caring that there are kids around is not really a concern to them. Also think how bad the police feel when they see a kid get shot (albeit with rubber bullet, those things still hurt) because they in the midst of a dangerous riot/mob, and the police did not see them.

Now back to the excuse, babysitter?!!!
If that is your only reason for bringing your kids, that is very sad.

-You can leave them with family, friends, etc.
-Choose to sit this mob out and not go (there will be other protest)
-Wait until they have school.
-And so on...

Basically when it comes to the safety of your kids there should be nothing you won't sacrifice
Whether it not going to the protest this time because you can't find a sitter or waiting until the are old enough to be by themselves.

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misternow In reply to damage-done [2005-06-18 11:57:38 +0000 UTC]

but its not that they cant hire baby sitters, or cant afford them... its the fact that they bring these kids TOO GET ATTENTION... to get that photo-op they need... it's an abuse. it's kinda like a bait for us press people... so they can get the front page... now that is wrong. these kids are used. us media people are guilty of this too... it's a self reflective photo in a way... its not as if im for the violence of the authorities... it is a sad fact as well... thanks for the comment sir. im sorry if i offended with you with the photo.

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Phreak-on-a-Leash In reply to ??? [2005-06-18 11:19:57 +0000 UTC]

Heh, what makes me feel even worse is when you see kids going to protest rallies in countries like Australia not because they've come to the conclusion that being whatever the object is is in line with their morals but more that they want to skip school, or because it's cool to be in a rally. For one thing, any rally that's comprised completely of teenagers frolicking around during school hours isn't going to be taken seriously at all... You want to make a difference? Get all your friends up and at a rally at like 6am on a saturday morning...

Love the photo

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misternow In reply to Phreak-on-a-Leash [2005-06-18 11:23:29 +0000 UTC]

thanks... really they do that eh? naughty teeners eh. thanks

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Phreak-on-a-Leash In reply to misternow [2005-06-19 21:41:59 +0000 UTC]

Hehe, they sure do, and the completely miss the fact that the politicians are completely ignoring them.

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antifisher [2005-06-18 10:57:55 +0000 UTC]

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misternow In reply to antifisher [2005-06-18 11:00:15 +0000 UTC]

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shawkash In reply to ??? [2005-06-18 10:50:01 +0000 UTC]

When I look to this cute girl, I feel attracted by her innocent eyes.. may be this is the point behind envolving her in some political action. Holding a sign? Do she even know what the sign is? this is the fair question: Is it mean that the case which is written in that sign a very fair and simple case till a kid with natural and innocent spirit start holding that sign and ask for it? .. Or is it just - excusme - a cheap way to promote some political signs. Even fair actions should be promoted by fair ways.. and balanced methods.

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obliteratus In reply to ??? [2005-06-18 10:41:40 +0000 UTC]

I love the little girl's expression!

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spade13th In reply to ??? [2005-06-18 10:37:03 +0000 UTC]

This picture reminded me of my LFS (League of Filipino Students) days in college...I once helped a little girl find her mother because she got lost in the crowd. So I left my group and started searching for her mother i was holding her hand while she was holding a sinage on her other hand and i was like asking people if they knew who her mother was...eventually we found her well actually her mother found us and she was very happy and thankful to see her child is alright.

The girl was like in her 11-13 years of age what surprises me is that shes not crying like what most little girl of her age would normally do.

Well anyways those were the days...Great shot on this one "Makibaka wag matakot!" ^_^

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Ozzwizard In reply to ??? [2005-06-18 10:33:52 +0000 UTC]

well... does america know why are they fighting for ?

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meru-chan In reply to ??? [2005-06-18 10:33:27 +0000 UTC]

very thoughtful picture and certainly sends across the messgage behind the pic. i was suprised to see this...^^' at firt glance,di ko kagad nakita yung Philippines dun sa sign pero naiisip ko kagad na parang sa Pinas to. it's really unfortunate of children especially nga when things get nasty pag nagdidisperse na
anyway nice job.^_^ congrats sa DD! really glad tosee this featured.

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misternow In reply to meru-chan [2005-06-18 10:42:36 +0000 UTC]

thanks.

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aemi-ikumi In reply to ??? [2005-06-18 09:44:10 +0000 UTC]

*sigh* I love this photo, but it makes me depressed about how we treat children. Very good job on this one.

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