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Morthax β€” Abortion is not

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Description I know this might raise a shitstorm, but I still decided to do it, to speak up my mind. Anyway, once again if you wish to argue this matter, please do so in a civil way. If I hide comments, that's simply because whoever wrote them refused to act decently.
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MizuWolf In reply to ??? [2011-05-12 01:11:05 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't want to have a abortion. I'm saying that I would If I needed too. But I'm not going to be getting pregnant, because I'm not married.

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moonclanliveson In reply to MizuWolf [2011-05-12 13:40:47 +0000 UTC]

yeah,
some girls if they have they're period soon enough can get pregnnt at like say 10-11

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MizuWolf In reply to moonclanliveson [2011-05-12 16:42:39 +0000 UTC]

wierd.

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moonclanliveson In reply to MizuWolf [2011-05-12 20:36:14 +0000 UTC]

?

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MizuWolf In reply to moonclanliveson [2011-05-12 20:53:30 +0000 UTC]

Your comment had nothing to do with what I said.

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moonclanliveson In reply to MizuWolf [2011-05-13 20:34:09 +0000 UTC]

?

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MizuWolf In reply to moonclanliveson [2011-05-14 21:22:18 +0000 UTC]

Your a annoying person.

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moonclanliveson In reply to MizuWolf [2011-05-14 21:36:50 +0000 UTC]

thankyou! Though i would apreciate if you wouldn't talk to me for 3 days i'm still greiving for my dog Bobo

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MizuWolf In reply to moonclanliveson [2011-05-14 22:06:02 +0000 UTC]

Ya, I don't care about your animal. Your the one messaging me.

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moonclanliveson In reply to MizuWolf [2011-05-14 22:10:15 +0000 UTC]

No respect for animals whatever hapened to St. Francis of Assisi? Huh Your not really catholic are you just a wanna-be islam aren't you?

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MizuWolf In reply to moonclanliveson [2011-05-15 03:40:17 +0000 UTC]

No your just obnoxious, I have respect for animals, just not annoying little girls animals.

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Morthax In reply to ??? [2011-02-24 09:23:00 +0000 UTC]

yes I indeed have had abortion.

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moonclanliveson In reply to Morthax [2011-03-05 21:58:52 +0000 UTC]

well why wouldn't it be easiar to give birth set it up for adoption what if the child was going to find the cure for cancer my little cousin regan needed that all right but really explain to me this

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Morthax In reply to moonclanliveson [2011-03-05 23:36:26 +0000 UTC]

I just firmly believe that giving birth and then dumping the baby isn't that good.

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moonclanliveson In reply to Morthax [2011-03-06 01:31:42 +0000 UTC]

well if you can keep thats good but atleast let it live

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moonclanliveson In reply to ??? [2011-02-23 21:45:01 +0000 UTC]

How can u beleive in abortion its so wrong killing a human being its so sick and in my opinion "abortion is murder unethical and wrong"

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Morthax In reply to moonclanliveson [2011-02-24 09:22:38 +0000 UTC]

It's a cluster of cells, not a human being.

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moonclanliveson In reply to Morthax [2011-02-24 21:31:25 +0000 UTC]

i firmly have to disagree with you its wrong in my opinion its down right murder in my religeon yes women should have a chioce but wouldn't it be easiar with adoption giving birth might be painful but when your done its just a distent memory.

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UrLocalLunatic In reply to moonclanliveson [2024-08-15 03:11:02 +0000 UTC]

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Naragirl007 In reply to ??? [2011-02-14 03:49:53 +0000 UTC]

Please explain your reasoning. Murder is listed as the barbaric killing of a human being. A fetus has a heartbeat from conception. it grows on its own. Do these things not make it alive? And barbaric is an explanation enough for any abortion process. I encourage you to look up the suction process. i'm sure it will have an affect on you.

All in all I respect your opinion, I just wish to know why it is your opinion. Please do not see this as any form of flaming.

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TheHideousBirdchild In reply to Naragirl007 [2011-04-21 12:12:49 +0000 UTC]

> from conception

Conception produces a blastocyst, then a zygote. The heart develops early, but not THAT early, man, and we are talking embryo-early.

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Morthax In reply to Naragirl007 [2011-02-14 10:52:34 +0000 UTC]

Fair enough, I kind of see your logic here.

However, I do not see how it is barbaric to, excuse my expression, get rid of something that isn't living yet, and acts like a parasite. yes, it has all the potential to develop into a human being, but in the early stages it is not a human, or living.

Also, I know exactly how abortions work, or medical abortions at least. I've had one. And without any doubt that was the best thing to do at the moment.

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Naragirl007 In reply to Morthax [2011-02-15 03:25:33 +0000 UTC]

Well, this is just my opinion, but since it has a heartbeat, I consider it as living. A parasite is something that feeds off of its host. I don't consider an impregnated woman a "host", because the baby doesn't feed off of her. I, respectively, disagree with the statement that it is not a human in the early stages of pregnancy.

May I ask why you got an abortion. I'm not gonna prod fingers at you or anything. Was is dangerous to your health or something like that? I understand if you wish not to say why.

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Morthax In reply to Naragirl007 [2011-02-15 09:03:16 +0000 UTC]

Well, a fetus isn't that far off from a parasite. Parasite feeds off of its host, we agree on that yes? And what does a fetus do? Exactly same thing. It feeds off its "host" AKA mother, it takes what ever it needs to grow an develop, it's the mother's job to keep herself healthy and well because the growing cluster of cells doesn't care, it just takes what it needs.

Anyway, that aside, you want to know why did I get an abortion. Well, I got pregnant by accident (and no, it wasn't because of unprotected sex, the condom broke) when I was barely 17. The father of it was mentally very, very unstable. And I was too, I was going through the worst time of my life so far so from that point of view having a baby wasn't an option. And I knew that as much as I like kids and want to have children some day, I wasn't ready for all that yet. In short, the time was wrong, the man was completely wrong, and I was a stupid 17-year-old. I would have sucked as a mom without any education, job, no one there to help me. Simple as that.

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Naragirl007 In reply to Morthax [2011-02-17 02:51:36 +0000 UTC]

Yes, but it is not one. I think "receiving nutrients" and "eating alive" are two different things. But yes, a parasite feeds off of it's host. Yes, it takes what it needs from the mother, but the mother's body is also prepared for such things. We were built to withstand pregnancies, not reproduce and die, reproduce and die, yadda yadda yadda. Again, a fetus isn't a growing cluster of cells. it has organs and tissues, eyes, nose, hands, feet, the works. But then again, in the same way, are you and I both not a cluster of cells?

Don't you have any depression or guilt or anything? Don't you regret it? I guess it's really not my business anyhow...whatever. Couldn't you have put it up for adoption?

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Morthax In reply to Naragirl007 [2011-02-17 10:29:14 +0000 UTC]

Why would I get depressed or feel guilty? I seriously don't see any reason to feel that way. I was quite happy when it was done, as an option that made more sense than going through the pregnancy and then dumping the baby.

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Naragirl007 In reply to Morthax [2011-02-18 03:23:22 +0000 UTC]

Well at least you wouldn't kill it, but I understand. No matter how much I disagree, I have to respect your choice. I understand why you made this choice, and in a short-thinking term, it was wise. Don't take this in a way to attack you or anything, but, that's why you don't have pre-marital sex in the first place. :/

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Morthax In reply to Naragirl007 [2011-02-18 03:26:03 +0000 UTC]

wait, wait, short thinking term wise, how? Also, how is it that I shouldn't have had...pre-marital sex? How does that matter, accidents can happen whenever.

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Naragirl007 In reply to Morthax [2011-02-18 03:47:54 +0000 UTC]

Heh...well, lets just say it's against my morals. And because a woman's body is a gift to their husband, and if you're gonna waste it on a guy who you aren't sure if you'll stay together forever, what's the point? And short thinking term wise, well, because it was what you needed then and you didn't think about how you would be effected in the future, to an extent. And it wouldn't have mattered if you "dumped" the baby. Did you ever think about couples who couldn't have kids because of medical reasons with the mother? What if they wanted a kid? do you know what they would give for one? And with the accidents thing, yes, accidents can happen at any time, but you shouldn't give the opportunity for one to happen. You should just avoid situations like that.

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Morthax In reply to Naragirl007 [2011-02-18 04:02:36 +0000 UTC]

Well, I'm not going to say anything about something like "woman's body is a gift to their husband". let's just leave it, but you say people shouldn't have sex with whoever they wish just because it's fun? And yes, accidents happen, condoms can break for example, so we should just ditch the fun of having sex with someone, because of the minor chance of something going wrong?

Anyway, I know there are people who desperately want children but can't have them. I am well aware of that, but I know what it is like to be an adopted child, growing up wondering why did my biological parents make me, if they weren't ready to deal with being parents. So, quite frankly, I don't want my kid growing up wondering that shit, I want my kid to be with me, knowing that I did want him/her and were ready to deal with that. It's really quite simple. I want to have my child in my life, and I want to raise them myself.

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Naragirl007 In reply to Morthax [2011-02-18 05:36:03 +0000 UTC]

Okay, we'll leave that one. Again, this is just my opinion, and I don't expect you to accept it. Especially in cases like that. I will admit that I am a Christian, and am basing some of my comments off of this. (But please don't let this change your opinion on me as an arguer.)... How about we just sue the condom company then? XD

True, and I think it's rather sad that people who are adopted almost always think that their parents didn't want them. It's a sad thing, honestly. There are other circumstances in which the mother wouldn't be able to keep the baby. But I think that living like that would be hard. especially if you never knew what the true reason was. I know it would be a big knife in the heart if I were to ever find out that my parents didn't want me...

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bellaluna23 In reply to ??? [2011-02-08 16:57:57 +0000 UTC]

I disagree with this comment in every way. Abortion is sickening to me. It is terribly unethical, as unethical as child sacrifice and infanticide. And I don't mean to offend or put anybody down, I think that this is the issue deserves attention. How can we hope for a peaceful society if we continue to murder our children?

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Morthax In reply to bellaluna23 [2011-02-09 00:04:17 +0000 UTC]

A fetus is not a living human being.

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HeartlessRose In reply to ??? [2011-02-02 01:31:08 +0000 UTC]

According to that logic, I killed my little brother yesterday, but it wasn't murder, unethical or wrong at all. Cause he is smaller and just doesn't matter at all. Yup, I could have starved him to death, but not like it matters, cause it's my house and I can do whatever I want! Just think about it.

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MizuWolf In reply to HeartlessRose [2011-05-09 08:12:30 +0000 UTC]

hmm. How old was your brother compared to the cluster of cells that was on the verge of developing but never did? or wait one moment, did you give your own mother a abortion? my word you sure are skilled.

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HeartlessRose In reply to MizuWolf [2011-05-09 20:56:02 +0000 UTC]

Haha, I was a bit upset that day, I'm not in the mood for a political argument, but I will say that I personally believe that it's unethical and wrong to kill any human being, no matter how small.

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MizuWolf In reply to HeartlessRose [2011-05-10 03:18:00 +0000 UTC]

ok, we'll leave it at that, I get really heated to XP sorry

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Morthax In reply to HeartlessRose [2011-02-02 09:25:25 +0000 UTC]

..oookkkaaayyyy...

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HeartlessRose In reply to Morthax [2011-02-02 11:45:45 +0000 UTC]

And btw, I love your Pen icon. Go Pen and Teller!

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NewtonianNocturn In reply to ??? [2011-01-08 03:42:44 +0000 UTC]

Technically it is murder, and unethical or wrong are relative terms. To each his own~

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MizuWolf In reply to NewtonianNocturn [2011-05-09 08:13:21 +0000 UTC]

exactly to each her own. So what gives you the right to technicalities?

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NewtonianNocturn In reply to MizuWolf [2011-05-09 14:23:01 +0000 UTC]

Are you generally this stupid, or did you have to work on it this time?

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MizuWolf In reply to NewtonianNocturn [2011-05-09 18:25:25 +0000 UTC]

I'm curious as to how you interpreted my comment as stupid? You stated, β€˜to each his own,’ but you’re stating factually that it is murder, unethical, and wrong. Wouldn’t you saying that be more of an opinion? So you can’t state β€˜technically,’ because that means it’s a fact, and it is defiantly not a fact. It’s an opinion. If you believe that the fetus is a β€œSPESHUL WITTLE SNOWFWAKE OF INDIVIDUALITY AND AMAZING-NUSS”” Then it would be murder, but for others who believe it is nothing but a cluster-fuck of slowly developing cells, then it’s basically like scrapping off a healing scab from your knee.

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NewtonianNocturn In reply to MizuWolf [2011-05-09 18:45:36 +0000 UTC]

I'm curious as to how you interpreted my comment as stupid? You stated, β€˜to each his own,’ but you’re stating factually that it is murder, unethical, and wrong.

Yes, I stated it as a fact, because technically it is; however, you've taken my last statement out of context, and applied it to the previous statement. I didn't state a fact and then dismiss it as my opinion; I stated a fact and then applied it to the relative terms unethical and wrong.

You deliberately misinterpreted my statement in an attempt to deny a fact; that's why I called you stupid.

Wouldn’t you saying that be more of an opinion? So you can’t state β€˜technically,’ because that means it’s a fact, and it is defiantly not a fact. It’s an opinion.

Implying opinions can't be based from facts. Also, I never gave my opinion on this matter.

If you believe that the fetus is a β€œSPESHUL WITTLE SNOWFWAKE OF INDIVIDUALITY AND AMAZING-NUSS”” Then it would be murder, but for others who believe it is nothing but a cluster-fuck of slowly developing cells, then it’s basically like scrapping off a healing scab from your knee.

Now see, this is an opinion, and I really don't see why you added it. Your point was to dismiss something, however you've backed yourself up with an opinion; another reason why I could call you stupid.

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MizuWolf In reply to NewtonianNocturn [2011-05-09 18:52:31 +0000 UTC]

I didn't call you any names, but very good sir. Also, I know what I wrote, you don't need to be copy-pasting them. And perhaps I did misinterpret the applied relative terms, but it was not intentional.

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Morthax In reply to NewtonianNocturn [2011-01-08 09:54:27 +0000 UTC]

Now, how is getting rid of some unwanted cells, murder.

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NewtonianNocturn In reply to Morthax [2011-01-08 19:03:53 +0000 UTC]

Those "unwanted cells" happen to be a human being. While it is not legally applicable, it is technically murder.

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Morthax In reply to NewtonianNocturn [2011-01-09 13:41:35 +0000 UTC]

They have a potential to become a human being. They just aren't that yet.

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NewtonianNocturn In reply to Morthax [2011-01-09 19:41:00 +0000 UTC]

How so?

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creativsis In reply to ??? [2011-01-04 01:55:00 +0000 UTC]

But would you say itΒ΄s ethical, right, life-saving?

(Oh, and if you are going to make a global warming doesnΒ΄t exist stamp, go for it).

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