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Chaser1992 [2019-04-17 18:55:43 +0000 UTC]

I know I said down below that extreme Individualism is bad (And imply that some Collectivism is necessary for society.)




However I've learned that  Individualism and Collectivism don't exist on a spectrum but instead are to (mutually exclusive) social philosophies on who's need and\or whats matter more the Collective or each individual of that Collective. (you can be a Individualist and have a strong group identity so long as you don't put the needs and\or what of the group above any member of the group. And you can be a Collectivist with a individual identity. In which you "are the Collective!")



So with that said I can safely say that Collectivism is just plain bad. Bad is often selfishness disguised as as selflessness. At lest Objectivism is honest about it's selfishness.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to Chaser1992 [2019-04-24 03:49:10 +0000 UTC]

The debate is like making heads and tails of the same coin goto war, and then acting as if they are two different coins.

Collectives are made up of individuals. They naturally co-exist. There is no need to try to force either of them into existence. Humans are genetically compelled to socialize, and they also have strong instincts to also be individuals. When we fail to realize this, then it becomes the dumpster fire that it is. Then we have shit like materialism gone wrong on the individualist consumer level, and we have collectivist bullshit like fascism and communism. 

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Chaser1992 [2018-12-02 07:02:37 +0000 UTC]

I dislike SWJ as much as the next guy. But narcissism is the poler oppose of collectivism. In fact being anti-narcissist is a collective concept.






Note both extreme individualism (which is a society of back-stabbing sociopaths (think the Dark Elves from D&D) and extreme  collectivism (a society of robots (Like the Cybermen.)) are bad. extremism in general is always bad.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to Chaser1992 [2018-12-02 10:34:12 +0000 UTC]

If narcissism is the opposite of anything related to collectives or groups, then what is group think? Or cults?

I would strongly suggest watching an A&E series called: Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath

 

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Chaser1992 In reply to paradigm-shifting [2018-12-06 05:55:15 +0000 UTC]

After a bit of research (which I probably should have do a head of time,) there is something called  collective narcissism.  So I guess my first point was wrong.



However I think both SJW and Anti-SWJ's can be pretty narcissistic (in both a collective and individual sense. (The Anti side in particular as have a high view of their options, lack empathy ("your feeling don't matter"), condescending behavior, and only focusing on the faults of the other side but not see if they share any of those same faults.)

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paradigm-shifting In reply to Chaser1992 [2018-12-06 08:05:34 +0000 UTC]

I fully agree with you! That is exactly why things such as the truth movement degraded into a conspiracy movement in which fighting each other over nothing in order to be the most popular, becomes the priority. 

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RioFluttershy [2018-10-18 10:20:01 +0000 UTC]

Interesting ^^

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paradigm-shifting In reply to RioFluttershy [2018-10-20 07:02:24 +0000 UTC]

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MensjeDeZeemeermin [2018-10-18 05:50:25 +0000 UTC]

To the FUTURE!

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paradigm-shifting In reply to MensjeDeZeemeermin [2018-10-20 07:03:09 +0000 UTC]

 

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florboisepic [2018-10-18 05:01:49 +0000 UTC]

okay, this is epic

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paradigm-shifting In reply to florboisepic [2018-10-20 07:03:34 +0000 UTC]

 

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Sinperium [2018-10-18 04:34:59 +0000 UTC]

I must say, great commentary piece here.

It's amazing to me how long people can live in Alice's Wonderland and not realize they are no longer awake.

Maybe your art will help.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to Sinperium [2018-10-19 05:15:50 +0000 UTC]

 

Perhaps

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Imperator-Xolo [2018-10-17 18:15:55 +0000 UTC]

Twitter was fuming over this.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to Imperator-Xolo [2018-10-17 19:40:28 +0000 UTC]

I know. Refer to deviation description  

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Tohokari-Steel [2018-10-17 14:18:39 +0000 UTC]

Hey, we are NOT NPC's, capable of only mindlessly spewing pre-programmed responses! Stop dehumanizing us, you (robotic, synthesized voice) RACIST, MISOGYNIST, HOMOPHOBIC, ALT-RIGHT, NEO-NAZI RUSSIAN BOT.

...Wait...

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paradigm-shifting In reply to Tohokari-Steel [2018-10-17 19:42:48 +0000 UTC]

NPC, I am YOUR FATHER!

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Tohokari-Steel In reply to paradigm-shifting [2018-10-17 19:56:01 +0000 UTC]

No...THAT'S NOT TRUE! THAT'S RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC, ALT-RIGHT, NEO-NAZI.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to Tohokari-Steel [2018-10-17 20:10:14 +0000 UTC]

 

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Tohokari-Steel In reply to paradigm-shifting [2018-10-18 01:36:19 +0000 UTC]

Well, I've been using the phrase "We're on the other side of the looking glass" with alarming regularity as of late...

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paradigm-shifting In reply to Tohokari-Steel [2018-10-19 01:09:21 +0000 UTC]

 

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Reillyington86 [2018-10-17 12:45:19 +0000 UTC]

I think this could be not only the best meme of recent times but the most accurate.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to Reillyington86 [2018-10-17 19:44:11 +0000 UTC]

In a world of lies, authenticity is a revolutionary act! (sad but true)

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