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Matthew 8:21-22It's an absolute myth that the Jesus character was pure love. He was often cruel and mean to his own family and his would-be disciples as well.
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JunTakashi [2018-07-10 03:28:23 +0000 UTC]
Pitnerd, you've misunderstood what this text says.
Small Explanation: Another of the disciples said to Him, “Lord, let me first go and bury my father (collect my inheritance).” But Jesus said to him, “Follow Me [believing in Me as Master and Teacher], and allow the [spiritually] dead to bury their own dead.”
Big Explanation:
Luke 9:59 Christ had said to this man, Follow me, to which command he replied, as is here stated, "Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father"(LITERAL TRANSLATION) — His meaning seems to be, Suffer me to continue at home with my father, who is far advanced in years, till I have performed the last filial office to him, in committing his body to the dust: for it does not appear that his father was already dead. But Jesus said, Follow me — Namely, immediately; and let the dead bury their dead — Let such as are dead in sin, spiritually dead, being insensible to the concerns of their souls and eternity, employ themselves in interring their deceased relatives and friends: or, leave the business of the world to those that are alive to it, and dead to God and things divine.
P.S. (In these times of this area, the son would often get a blessing(Portion, inheritance, land, money, basically whatever the father left behind.) after his father died.
P.S.S. The last thing I want to note is that this whole passage is talking about the cost to following Jesus. He says a whole lot of important things in this. You either follow Christ with everything or nothing. There is no half way point. All or nothing. And Jesus says multiple times that we should count the costs and understand the kind of decision you are making -Matthew 6:24.
P.S.S.S.The sources for my argument here are found primary in the bible(Multiple translations), and using the websites "biblegateway.com" and "biblehub.com". If you have questions the best thing to do is to type in google "John Piper", followed by a space and then your question.
P.S.S.S.S. You've got some pretty awesome art skills sir!
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TankThomus In reply to JunTakashi [2023-02-12 19:42:20 +0000 UTC]
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Paulthored In reply to JunTakashi [2022-11-20 19:07:50 +0000 UTC]
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pitnerd In reply to JunTakashi [2018-07-10 15:58:37 +0000 UTC]
I appreciate your commenting. Understand that I spent a year and a half in seminary. I did not make this blindly. It's a bit tongue-in-cheek, but mostly trolling. I'm well aware of and have done my fair share of exegeting scripture. But this was made specifically when I became a very angry atheist. I'm no longer angry nor do I really even call myself an atheist. I merely exist. But because this is still in the domain of art I refuse to take it down. It represents a moment in my life that I do not wish to forget. At least not yet. Again, thanks for commenting.
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luckxzzee [2017-10-09 21:21:42 +0000 UTC]
goodness I may be a Christian. (maybe? may change in the future) but this is really funny XD
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aaaaceace [2017-09-22 04:02:58 +0000 UTC]
That's kind of taken out of context. The point Jesus was trying to make to his disciple is that if he was going to follow Jesus he had to put aside all other things, which is still a pretty bad massage but not as bad.
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ceraperduta [2016-08-05 07:39:40 +0000 UTC]
I love it when you display the Bible by its own description people are so quick to argue that you can't take what the bible says literally. That has got to be the greatest joke to all theism in question.
I could easily argue that "...what Jesus really meant was he didn't give a fuck about funeral and could give fuck-all if anyone took him seriously (it's not clear enough to be for sure he didn't mean that)..."
Also, I find it amusing that critics in the comment section below are so quick to pass judgement on a cartoonist with a sense of humor. They are so quick to condemn, to damn, and to pass their own sense of judgement on the character of the artist without even meeting him or her. This is why I left religion. Nothing but a house full of self-loathing, condemning, self-righteous, overly zealous hypocrites who forgot the key lesson Jesus (the asshole) supposedly taught them: To love their fellow man.
Or maybe it's because the Bible manages to un-teach these lessons so easily as it... OH MY GOD, I think I found a glitch in the Matrix!
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TankThomus In reply to ceraperduta [2023-02-12 20:01:45 +0000 UTC]
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glassocean In reply to ceraperduta [2016-11-26 22:44:36 +0000 UTC]
Good point. I didn't think of that.
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PeteSeeger [2016-05-24 00:45:16 +0000 UTC]
You make the mistake of equating love with being nice. Anger and censure are not the antithesis to acts of love, but the logical extreme of it.
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Linkzilla [2016-02-04 05:06:18 +0000 UTC]
And it's a flat out lie that he was sin-less.
One of his most well-known stories is his property-damage incident - he was also very angry in that story. (Which is by his own standards to be considered a Hell-Worthy Trespass.)
But it doesn't surprise me, considering that He's the one in Hell torturing people, and NOT Satan.
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glassocean In reply to Linkzilla [2016-11-26 22:37:41 +0000 UTC]
Ya, that story did seem a bit contradictory.
But at least he did kick out or chase away the money changers who were basically cheating the common people.
Ya, the part about humans being cast into hell in the Bible always puzzled me. If you are God and you can create human beings, why can't you just make them cease to exist instead of leaving them in a torturous state for eternity? I could be wrong... I just don't care for people being tormented forever.
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aaaaceace In reply to glassocean [2017-09-22 03:57:15 +0000 UTC]
Or just make Hell a place to rehabilitate sinners instead of torturing them.
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JunTakashi In reply to aaaaceace [2018-07-10 03:30:02 +0000 UTC]
What do you think the present times are being used for right now?
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aaaaceace In reply to JunTakashi [2018-10-16 06:12:48 +0000 UTC]
Well considering I'm an atheist and an absurdest, nothing. There is no meaning to life and that's great.
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sin-and-love [2015-09-30 04:43:58 +0000 UTC]
My study Bible has a commentary on that verse. When the guy said "I will follow you, but let me bury my father first." He wasn't saying that his dand had just died, rather, it was a figure of speech. He was really saying "I will follow you, but not until my father has died of old age."
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Hansae [2015-06-20 23:46:08 +0000 UTC]
Matthew 8:21-22King James Version (KJV)
21 And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father.
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
Hahaha okay I see what you see. But Jesus was only trying to remind the potential disciple to follow him.
This is funny how you criticize Jesus for being a "dick", without actually understanding why he said it and his bigger intention for his potential disciple. Surely these verses speak for itself. That the expiring bury the expired, hence Jesus wished this particular to follow him and break all ties with the world.
Pretty sure is hard for most people to see this form and directly criticize Jesus of Nazareth because of countable individuals who abuse this religion, that's why Jesus spoke of the parable of the sower (Matthew chapter 13). The narrow because of not quoting the entire verses, and only citing one sentence, and manipulating the imagery to condone an atmospheric cliché of being a "dick" with no elaborate reason. Good job! Nice propaganda, I'll be looking for you in the end to see what you will become sir, and for that matter anyone else here feels they got so much hate for Jesus and Christians, just because of several historical and self-proclaimed individuals who got greedy for wealth and power concludes Christianity as a most degenerative ideology and theology in the entire world, and scapegoating the Christian faith for all your problems. Meanwhile at the same time when you do something that's bad or being a dick to someone else doesn't matter, everyone else acting all high and prideful and pointing your fingers at us Christians and using unreasonable narrow minded reasons to facilitate hate speeches and self-appraising attitudes without looking at yourself in the mirror.
Before you look at and judge others, go and look at yourself and what you have done to others!
In any case good artwork, it makes me understand better now how modern atheism, anti-theist, Satanists and non-Christian finalize their conclusion based on narrow perspectives. Now I know I'm in the right path since being a Christian for only several years I finally find the flaws within the human spectrum outside the realm of יְהֹוָה .
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LolitheLeopard [2015-05-29 22:27:30 +0000 UTC]
There's a passage in the Bible that says if your wife is pregnant and you suspect that you're not the father, you have to feed her an abortificent. Have you ever thought about making a cartoon parodying that passage?
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pitnerd In reply to LolitheLeopard [2015-06-04 20:30:27 +0000 UTC]
I'll have to check that out
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GoodThinker [2015-05-28 04:20:40 +0000 UTC]
Well ya, the dead are just lazy leeches who want EVERYTHING done for them! Why do we taxpayers need to pay so many taxes for the dead sponges?
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Siveir [2015-03-07 09:13:13 +0000 UTC]
Well what we think we know about Jesus is the result of the First Council of Nicaea and following "censure", and of course about or own interpretation of the Bible. From what I learned, he wasn't (if he ever lived... I have my doubts) about love and so, he was what we now call activist. In that job, you cannot succeed by bying nice and peacefull...
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pitnerd In reply to Siveir [2015-03-07 15:49:36 +0000 UTC]
An astute assessment and something I've said for a while even when I was stil a Christian. Check out Yale Courses channel on YouTube. Search for Dale Martin's course series on the New Testament. It's incredibly educational and eye-opening.
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sketchArtBrony [2015-02-25 23:43:19 +0000 UTC]
This is off topic,but for some reason I like the way you drew Jesus.
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Internetexplorer968 [2015-02-08 01:55:24 +0000 UTC]
*citation needed* Even if it's satirical.
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LadyFemmeFatale [2015-02-02 06:25:10 +0000 UTC]
I hate him too. because he chose to born only as a male his theologians said that god is not deigned to be born a woman, because the woman is lower, and god has elevated only the male (as Thomas Aquinas said), and the female was a lot of shit (odon de cluny said) because jesus christ is considered male and god on earth
look here what the church said about women: www.sacred-texts.com/chr/aquin…
another hateful thing taken from the gospel is that Jesus loved to be served by women prostrate at his feet like dogs.
see the gospel of mark and luke.
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ladyblackbird13 In reply to pitnerd [2015-01-03 19:21:20 +0000 UTC]
Sorry, but...just no! I'm neither Catholic nor Protestant, and I'm not fanatic either, but that goes clearly too far!
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kimjongangryplz In reply to ladyblackbird13 [2015-04-22 02:11:53 +0000 UTC]
Go cry a river...
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ladyblackbird13 In reply to kimjongangryplz [2015-04-22 16:21:52 +0000 UTC]
I never cry. I'll get my frying pan instead. D:<
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pitnerd In reply to ladyblackbird13 [2015-01-03 20:13:59 +0000 UTC]
Okay. This is a sincere and civil question, but how does one decide what "too far" is?
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oblivionartcraft132 [2014-12-21 04:21:01 +0000 UTC]
whoa, whoa, whoa, just what is wrong with you, i get it you're atheist and all but you can't take a figure of leadership, hope, and peace and just say he's a dick what the hell is wrong, i seen a bunch of ignorant fools but this i will not tolerate, i got it the idea there is no god but Jesus is figure of the goodness of the goodness of humanity, even he doesn't exist or not he still a figure of standing up to corruption. I get you he can call him a alot things, like a socialist for example which i would understand, but you need to realize you should be targeting the church, not Jesus himself, if you're not going to understand, just die if you refuse to change or have a damn open-mind!
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pitnerd In reply to oblivionartcraft132 [2014-12-21 14:56:22 +0000 UTC]
Oh man. You're not going to tolerate it? I tell you what, why don't you pray to this dick named Jesus to do something about it. Thanks for commenting!
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oblivionartcraft132 In reply to pitnerd [2014-12-21 21:44:04 +0000 UTC]
ugh.... why i'm going to bother you're just another person who thinks they know everything because they don't believe in god and doesn't have any morale values. even if Jesus christ isn't real he still had a major impact in society.
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pitnerd In reply to oblivionartcraft132 [2014-12-22 22:02:49 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for your synopsis of my person-hood.
I don't think I've ever claimed to know everything, yet you seem to know so much about me. How did you get to be so good at reading people from almost no information at all?
Thanks for commenting and boosting my stats!
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oblivionartcraft132 In reply to pitnerd [2014-12-23 02:04:48 +0000 UTC]
clearly i'm done with you if you're just going to be sarcastic.
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pitnerd In reply to oblivionartcraft132 [2014-12-23 16:30:10 +0000 UTC]
Oh c'mon! It's fun!!!!!
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oblivionartcraft132 In reply to pitnerd [2014-12-24 01:23:06 +0000 UTC]
if you're not going to be serious, just stop talking to me, end of discussion.
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pitnerd In reply to oblivionartcraft132 [2014-12-24 20:18:17 +0000 UTC]
But...I am serious? What do you like to do for fun? How many teeth do you have at this moment? Where was your grandmother born? Thanks for commenting!!!!
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oblivionartcraft132 In reply to pitnerd [2014-12-26 06:44:44 +0000 UTC]
ok now i understand you, you're just the type of guy who likes to be sarcastic and being above everyone who are religious who you think is full of crap, if im missing anything at least let me know.
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