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I had help in making these reasons.
We have to think of it like this. We are God's children who have grown up and moved out of the house a long time ago. I know I'm missing the whole raising up part, but I'm pretty well spent so I'm skipping ahead. We all (I would like to think) have an ingrained sense of wisdom and common sense, and He has provided every opportunity for us to increase that, and gain so much more.
However, we have free will. Imagine how parents must feel when they see their son or daughter wind up as a deadbeat wreck, or even end up in jail. (Assuming the parents aren't already deadbeats themselves.) I imagine that's how God feels about a lot of people when they decide to do horrible, stupid things. Corrupting their minds and souls, as well as the minds and souls of countless others. In fact, it's what started sin in the first place.
The suffering is not God's blame. It is our own fault. It because someone willfully decided to do what they knew was wrong. Because people do not think about what they are thinking about, and question whether or not it is right.
"But God being God, why doesn't he step in and fix things?! Why does he let it continue?!" The same reason the parents of the deadbeats cannot do anything. It will solve nothing. If our every mess was swept away with no effort of our own, we would learn nothing. We would have no reason to be better, to strive harder, for there would be no need. We would have no reason to seek Him, and know Him. Love is a pursuit.
Think of the rich turds who have had everything handed to them. They show little love, little appreciation for those around them and for what they have. You can see where I'm going with this; I can't think of how to wrap that up right now. Love is to want to please, a want to serve, a want to seek after, even if it means nothing in return. If everything was handed to us/every problem wiped away, we would have no reason to love God, which is essentially the whole reason we exist in the first place.
"But if God wants to help us, why doesn't he?" Because people don't want God these days. Why would you help someone who fights you every step of the way, or say they hate you? People are like mental patients who don't think they need to take their medication. They've got it all figured out, and they don't need anything else.
But they do. We all do. The healing medicine that is God's Love is the only thing that's keeping people from going completely insane. Without God, all would be lost, whether you think so or not.
"But why-but why-but why!?!?" People scream this all the time. Listen to these:
youtu.be/uzxpVGnWEWA
youtu.be/New8i_eX3x8
(I know there are more, but I can't think of them right now.)
So many of us can't see beyond what's before us. We can't fathom that the stupid, painful thing we're dealing with now could possibly be a stepping stone to something greater. The phrase "what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger," has more truth to it than people believe. (I know there are a number of extenuating circumstances in which it doesn't, but in most things we deal with, it does.)
To make a sword, the metal must forged with heat and fire. It takes days, perhaps months of effort and patience to produce a weapon strong enough for battle. Impurities make the metal weak and brittle, it would not stand up to anything if they remained. So it is taken in and out of the forge, folded and beaten with a hammer, over, and over, and over, and over. The strongest swords are made of metal that was beaten and folded hundreds, if not a thousand times over.
Only after it is beaten, tortured, fired, and shaped, can it stand up against the blows of the enemy. Only then can it be used the way it was meant to be.
A tree must go through decades of cold winters and bug ridden summers before it can bear fruit. Before bow can shoot an arrow, the wood must be boiled and tortured into shape. Flour must have the lumps sifted out of it before the cake can be made.
We are no different. The hardships in our lives steel us to become the people we need to be. And we are so much stronger than we believe.
"But why does THIS have to happen? Why THIS?" There was an episode of the Dead Zone (you might have heard of it) that illustrated this perfectly. You can watch it here: www.tvguide.com/shows/the-deadβ¦
But I'll give you the synopsis. "A wild old high school friend, Jason, comes to see Johnny seeking a vision of the future as he will be dying of a heart condition. Johnny sees him receiving a successful heart transplant and gives him the good news, but later gets a vision of Jason's sister Kate being killed in a driving accident and becoming the donor.
Johnny later gets a vision of the other driver's license plate while Jason takes a turn for the worse, then sees a vision of him and Kate arguing which leads to her going out and getting in the accident. Johnny soon realizes even if he saves Kate and gets Jason a heart through Purdy's connections, someone else who would have received the heart will die.
Johnny tracks down the drunk driver, Patrick Hanchin, and confronts him, but sees that if he stops Patrick from killing Kate, it will only lead to a later DUI accident with a school bus. Trapped in a web of fate where anything he does will make things worse, Johnny ends up provoking a fight with Kate and she dies and Jason lives, as he foresaw... but Jason learns from the experience."
The thing is... bad things happen, whether they have to or they just do. In this case here, Johny Smith got to see the reason why. If he took the other heart, then that family would have been without their mother. If he did anything to slow the drunk driver, dozens of children would have died. If his friend had received the heart in any other way, he would have continued on with his wild and crazy party lifestyle, and would have lost the heart to his debauchery.
I hope this explains it.
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Okay. First off, you've got no evidence of this whatsoever, but okay.
There is no evidence for the existence of free will either. Assuming it does exist, it does not provide any form of excuse for needless suffering. If we truly brought this on ourselves, then all suffering would have to be something we could have been said to have done something to earn. When a stray tornade kills a hundred, how is that our fault? When a baby is born with AIDS, how is that its fault? When a good and decent person gets raped and murdered, how is that their fault? The idea of a good god who refuses to inervene for the aforementioned reasons stands and falls with the idea of justified suffering- and the world is full of needless, preventable suffering that this god looks at and ignores. Your argument does nothing to refute that.
The same reason the parents of the deadbeats cannot do anything. It will solve nothing.
The loathsome contempt for the human race aside, YES IT WOULD. People not having to suffer pointlessly would solve a whole hell of a lot. It's not like people who work hard and do good are somehow rewarded- cruelty and suffering can strike them at random as much as anybody else.
Because people don't want God these days.
I call bullshit. A vas majority of people are still theists of one kind of another; countries like my own where irreligiosity is standard are an exception to the norm. And even so, an omnibenevolent, all loving deity should not care- conditional love is not very loving. Suffering is suffering, whether you agree with the views of the person suffering, and to ignore it is flat out cruel.
Not interested in your music videos.
If all this suffering leads to something greater, than that's somehow all right? Congratulations- your god just invoked "the greater good", an idea used by dictators to justify utter horror. According to your idea, he is omnipotent and therefore responsible for all this suffering- yet the means justify the ends?
We are no different. The hardships in our lives steel us to become the people we need to be.
More bollocks excuses. If we were justΒ being tried, that might have held up- but people suffer needlessly and pointlessly every day. Random acts of cruelty happen, without being stopped. There is a saying, that "god never throws more at you than you can handle", which is just not true. And if this idea that hardship and suffering is god's design, not even counting the needless suffering, then god is a psychopathic monster. When a mother of three gets cancer, is that god's design? When a young woman is raped and killed, is that god's design? When children starve to death, is that god's design? Every day, four thousand children die. One has to assume their parents pray for them- yet, they die. Many of them from preventable illnesses, starvation... yet, this is all somehow us just being "hardened"? And somehow, this shows how benevolent he is?
Bad things happen, needlessly and all the time, and you've done diddly-squat to address this problem. You've explained nothing.
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Well, I tried. But you're dead-set on being absolutionist and viewing things through a very mono-colored lens.
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And you're dishonest, emotionally charged, irrational, and consistently prone to personal attacks. Good day.
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Look, I stopped the 'personal attacks' with the last post.
I'm convinced you were never interested in a satisfying answer and more in bullying someone who hasn't thrown God out with the bathwater.
And like I said, I've been in a stupendously bad place for the past week.
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Whoop-dee-efn-doo.Β
Oh, right- laying out reasoned arguments with conviction, that's bullying. When did I ever attack you, or ridicule you for your faith?
Right, whatever.
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Number of people killed by god: millions ( dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.s⦠)
Numver of people killed by satan: in the single digits.
Gee, who is the villain, one wonders?
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God only killed who he had to, and the only reason Lucifer hasn't killed everyoneΒ is because God keeps his powers on a leash, so to speak.
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Any actual evidence of that? Even in your bible? No? Didn't think so.
Your god is a sick, sadistic, psychopathic genocidalist. Deal with it. He didn't haveΒ to kill anyone, but he still did. The only good excuse is that he's not actually real.
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Are you asking evidence for the fact that God only killed who he had to, or that Lucifer would've killed everyone if he could?
also, read these:Β
sin-and-love.deviantart.com/joβ¦
sin-and-love.deviantart.com/joβ¦
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Obviously, the guy with the horns and not sucking an imaginary dick!
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Funny thing is, in the jewish testament he's actually not evil, he is seen as a prosecutor or something.
Also, nice icon.
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Thanks
A...prosecutor?
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Something like that, maybe a lawyer. An inoffensive role on the whole.
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God is the True Evil here (Christianity).
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I love this! Can I have a copy of it with out the letters on the bottom please ? my email is bujucucack@gmail.com
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