Plowplot In reply to RedSabbath [2014-10-07 14:50:36 +0000 UTC]

Well, that's not entirely true. There is a glass ceiling in the business world where women will get passed over for promotion after promotion after promotion but that isn't because they have a vagina. It's because we have a culture where women are told that being a team player and being able to manage your co-workers, were being inspirational and a great leader are the keys to success. While these things are important, the thing that women are disproportionately not told by their mentors and even other women, is that if you want to get higher than middle management you have to demonstrate a clear and powerful understanding of the marketing and the finance aspects of the business. 

In order to get those top paying jobs men are told "Be sharks, be go getters, make sure you find news ways to make the bottom line better!" where as women are told "Be confident and own your womanhood." Who do you think is going to get the promotion? The man who demonstrates they can make the company more money or the woman who demonstrates she can lead people into maintaining the status quo? 

This is the kind of thing real feminists should be talking about, how to actually, in the real world help women have a fair shake at the good jobs but instead we get people talking about how in one mission of one video game you can kill hookers and drag around their bodies like "Objects". I wouldn't mind feminists so much if they actually had intelligent things to say. 

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RedSabbath In reply to Plowplot [2014-10-07 16:14:42 +0000 UTC]

Point well made... These people make outrageous claims in hopes to get attention.. or perhaps they truly believe that it is a vast male conspiracy against them... Either way, it completely misses the whole root of the problem... which has absolutely nothing to do with hookers in GTA.
Certainly women face stereotypes.. and for that matter so do men.
I'm female, and I've worked in male-dominated industries, I even have male dominated hobbies, I've experienced prejeduce based on my gender. But most people can see past that once they get to know you a little.
The whole thing that really twists my chain, are these people that run around with a chip on their shoulder, blaming male prejudice for everything... Male Prejudice is not an excuse for personal inadequacy.
..I had a friend even, who applied at a mechanic's shop for a job as a tech. She didn't get the job, she ranted and went into tirades, how the owner was a chauvanist.. blah blah.. She never stopped to consider that she had no certification or experiance for the job, or the fact that she couldn't even tell you where the spark plug goes...... That's the kind of attitude that trivializes the whole "feminist movement"
" I wouldn't mind feminists so much if they actually had intelligent things to say." <--- I implicitly agree. That kickstarter campaign would have been better paying you the 150k... Ironicly, I doubt they'd be willing to pay that to a man to say it...

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