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Please disseminate widely, thank you!Sgt. Sheena Adams, 25, Lance Corporal Kristi Baker, 21, and Hospital Corpsman Shannon Crowley, 22, US Marines with the FET 1st Battalion 8th Marines, Regimental Combat Team II pose at their forward operating base on November 17, 2010 in Musa Qala, Afghanistan. Photograph by Paula Bronstein.
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You misunderstand my purpose in being here. Please read the "Policy Statement" in my Journal and then you'll understand where I'm coming from.
Anyway, I'm not a reasonable person, and moreover, I feel no compelling reason to become one in order to accommodate people I do not know, do not agree with, and probably wouldn't like if I were to meet them in person. As I've said many, many times, it's my gallery, and if you don't like my terms of service, you're welcome to leave. Finally, it's not a threat; it's something I do routinely, with relish, and great abandon.
This is not an invitation to further discussion.
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Most of the argument with women on the front lines isn't that women can't handle themselves. It's that men can't handle having the women around. Apparently we magically make they into mushy piles of emotions and they'll do stupid things to protect us, like break orders and make stupid mistakes. We make the men liabilities. 8[
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well theres that and then theres the men who think "oh a women in the barracks must of been sent here for sex relief*rapes*" and then when the women goes to complain SHE gets in trouble or is sweeped under the rug sick world we live in makes me sad being male sometimes
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I once heard a teacher tell a girl that he didn't have any females on his electric car building club because "I didn't think they were competent enough." Now my all-girl robotics team just kicked major ass at a competition (we won the bloody thing, and it's a continental competition) and we're sending him an 8x10 pic of us with the BLOODY HUGE trophy we won. Ha in his face!
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Yes. Any and all killing is murder, but it's considered okay because they are doing so to protect another. Double-standards are fun, but can get you in trouble. Be careful
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Actually, a kill in war is not murder.
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all killing is murder regardless if it is in war hunting or whatever a death is a death and a death caused by unnatural causes but by a human intervention is murder
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No, you're quite wrong. All killing of humans is homicide. Some homicides, a portion of those homicides in violation of the law, are murders. Some homicides in violation of the law are called manslaughter. lrn2webster's.jpg
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first off the point i was trying to get across is that killing someone in war is just as bad as killing someone in the street a kill is a kill doesnt matter how it happens its still wrong doesnt make it right the definitions are a separate issue second off the lrn2webster's.jpg was unnecessary
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It might be murder, but if you had a gun and someone pulled a gun on you with intent to kill you, wouldn't you shoot them first? That's self defense and is perfectly justified.
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I see. You're entitled to your uninformed and ignorant opinion, but what is unnecessary is your arguing about your extreme views in my gallery.
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Murder isn't simply the act of killing someone. It's a legal term that defines an unlawful killing.
Now excuse me while I do the Corrected-an-idiot dance!
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i dont know why you are dancing soldiers are murders especially ours they kill citizens for games and pleasure they desecrate enemy soldiers body which in the laws of war is unlawful atleast it used to be it doesnt matter if there is a law or not about what killing is bad the fact of the matter is killing is killing so any one that kills another person is a murderer
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Eh, no reason to argue with an idiot. later!
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Why are they murders? They are doing their job like anyone else and are discriminated against even more than most women. I'm ex-Navy and I know there are more good people than bad in any area but there are lots of people who treat you like crap and a female soldier is more likely to be harassed and treated like crap than a male. Female superiors tend to be harder on other female soldiers because they believe that since they had to go through so much BS to get where they are they feel the need to toughen up the next generation of women. The military personnel not only follow their countries laws but they also have to follow the UCMJ, Uniform Code of Military Justice. The laws in the UCMJ are archaic at best and can even punish people for having sex in any other position than missionary. And yes I have seen a situation where a married couple was punished for just such an infringement, both were busted down a rank and woman was brought up on charges. It has recently been added to the UCMJ that women in active duty are to be punished if the become pregnant. It was intended for women who became pregnant to avoid combat deployment but since it didn't specify there were many women who found out the were happily pregnant only to be blindsided by charges, possible military jail time, loss of benefits & pay, and/or dishonorable discharge.
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...Yeah, the wording definitely threw me off. I mean, I knew it was in support for women's right, but in the way the sentence was structured, it's implying that women can be just as crazy if no more so than men when it comes to acts of violence. (Don't forget: some of us DO oppose military officials while indirectly opposing military factions and decision; some people find it easier to hate a person rather than an idea, which is rather unfortunate.)
More to the actual point of the message: Implying that women can't make decisions on their own is pure sexist and should only be stated on a case-by-case person. I'm 28 years old, and my father STILL hasn't made up his freakin' mind whether he wants to be a father or not 
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I don't see the problem, but then, I'm the author, so that stands to reason. Please give me an alternative that you feel is more clear, but uses no more words than I did. Thanks.
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I wouldn't know how to say it any better if I were to write the captions 
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This actually makes me quite happy. My spanish teacher Ms. Manley is currently finishing the rest of her training to become a Marine
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Tell Mrs. Manley for me "Semper Fi."
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the marines are now letting women into infantry officer training. so now our girls can go whoop some ass
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My best friend from 5th grade is joining the Marines this August. I'm so proud of her, we both thought that I would be the one to join any type of military but she surprised us both.
Thank you for posting this and I sent her the link to this
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Tell her I said "Semper Fi."
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I'd love to see any of those pathedic excuses of a human beings we call Pro-lifers (main issue with them is they resort to violence to 'preserve life') tell these ladies what they can and cannot do!
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Were rationalizations absolutely necessary? -_-
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For some people yes it is.
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*generalizations
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Unfortunately the armed services frequently tells these brave women such things. There are a number of travesties involving sexual predation upon women who choose to enroll in the armed services, as well as discharging women for pregnancies and other such foolishness. It's not my country, and I don't intend to serve in my own country (due to a number of reasons), but the status of women in the military is frightening.
I'm afraid I don't have the articles to cite at the moment, it was a rather horrifying week of article after article on the state of women in the military, involving dishonorable discharges due to being raped (the rapist was not charged, or faced minimal discipline), due to reporting sexual assaults and a singularly awful story about a woman who was victimized and then assigned to serve with her aggressor as her commanding officer and immediate superior.
Unfortunately, I'm sure a quick search will reap far too many results (what memories that haven't been blocked out by internal censorship of "dear lord that's terrifying" had statistics that were somewhere in the region of over half women enlisted had aggravated assaults on their person which were not prosecuted-and I think half of those were DD).
I have tremendous respect for those who do choose to serve (even though I believe war is the most absurdly revolting thing humans have ever done), and to read on the victimization that occurs even among those who choose to give their life in service was...*I have no words*
Among anything I have seen about this entire foolishness (gender wars), I think it impacted me the most concerning the state of women in the US.
Truthfully, I don't see why we don't see more female refugees up north, citing persecution by gender and violation of basic human rights. Maybe that's why our immigration laws are being relaxed.
((I was conflicted about posting this at all, since it is such a positive message, but given the nature of the piece and the artist's stance against such things, it seemed appropriate to make mention so that the ideas of a happy, safe environment for women in the military isn't perpetuated, since it's patently untrue. Unfortunately, it's a bad time to be female in most of the US, regardless of source of employment-don't think that the military will/does protect women any more than the rest, don't glorify them when they're in some ways, worse. ))
((Yes, these women are brave souls who should be celebrated, even more so for what they must face from their own companions))
((no, I don't think all military men are rapists, just that those who are often escape any form of discipline, or are excused due to the "stresses of duty" -yes I do remember that being part of a defense in an investigation-given by a senator I believe))
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Nothing hotter than women who can kick my ass lol good pic, I completely agree with your statement.
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First and foremost. I hope these young women know I appreciate their service to our country.
As for this piece. I guess since I don't necessarily practice misogyny I'm just not getting the point of the message here. I have to come to the conclusion that I think this way because I don't honestly feel any human being is in control of their body fully. We all do and say things that are outside of our immediate control. Some of it is certainly learned behavior, but others are an innate biological autonomous process.
I guess the fault lies with the "second nature" learned behavioral processes. These are what perpetuate things like misogyny, racism or class ism. We are taught to hate, or to discriminate. Ironically our bodies work against this as humans tend to seek out partners to create genetically diverse offspring, usually with someone of a different race.
To the original point. I dont know if the composition of this piece conveys the message the artist was trying to get out. It really only managed to confuse me.
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Thank you for your service to our country. You are all beautiful.
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Nice one! I could do without the political statement covering half of the photo, though, on account of not taking misogynists seriously enough to send them a message. Would it be possible for you to upload just the photo?
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You can see a bunch of Paula Bronstein's work, including the photo used in my agit-prop poster, here: [link]
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Excellent! Yes, I wonder if anyone of thiose right-wing morons has the guts to tell it to members of the USMC (I guess not)
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Oooooh, trolling a feminist. So profound.
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I couldn't even understand where the negative parts were in their comment
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Female soldiers technically have to be tougher than most as their first opponents are themselves. Women are more emotionally minded and men are more logical (in general, not as a rule), so the woman has to train herself mentally even harder than the usual recruits. There are women who are extremely capable as soldiers, but for reasons of psychological warfare and sexual torture are prevented from serving on the front lines in general. No one wants her to be captured, it would be worse than death for the soldier in question and leave her squad recklessly enraged. Women soldiers, as a rule of thumb, have to work harder than their male counterparts for the physical demands of the job so they more than earn their place.
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I think you need to talk to some of my male Marine friends who have served in combat with women. Simply regurgitating whatever stereotypes you grew up with is not a basis for either intelligent discussion or sound policy making.
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I donΒ΄t understand how in the 21st century there are still people that question the rights of women. We are equals, we born the same way... I just hate the politicians who dares to insult us, they most sure would die without a woman xDD.
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