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Published: 2014-05-04 20:43:15 +0000 UTC; Views: 4135; Favourites: 38; Downloads: 3
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To all those who think taking out all the other characters will make Sonic games better, think back to how that worked out for not only Shadow and Sonic 4, but unleashed(day stages weren't that good to begin with, too cheap), Sonic 3D blast, Spinball, Labyrth, the Advance games were in 2D and many people ignored them, Secret Rings, and more notably, Sonic Genesis for the GBA, a port of Sonic 1 that turned out worse then the original.The problem is not the characters or the games being too dark, but the devs behind the works who either aren't good at their job or made to rush every game. I also wanna note that Colors barely had anything good about it, Lost World bombed, and Generations was boring.
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Having a lot of characters is what makes Sonic AWESOME!
Less characters?! Β Wow.
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Just takes away from people who liked those other characters. Looking at everything though, I've long since thought many of these people don't even really like Sonic, they just like his gameplay and his name is only important because it's the title of the game.
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Hmm what about the replay value in Generations, lack of of story sure but it had a lot stuff to collect giving it a lot of replay value.
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You shouldn't have to rely on replay value to replay a game. Plus, 06 had those silver coins to collect to, but that's not why I got back to it.
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Meh, Generations was just an excuse to celebrate Sonic's 20th Anniversary. And like I said before, Tails was a freaking smart-mouth in Sonic Colors and Sonic Lost World.
But straight to the point, they should bring the other characters back, or at least acknowledge the fact they exist. Or both.
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Doesn't mean Gens couldn't have had more effort put into it though. Tails was smart mouthed, but it was forced, especially in Lost World. There's no question the other characters should come back though.
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Right.
That wasn't the only thing that was forced. Tails suddenly accuses Sonic trusting Eggman over him.
Fitting them in... that's the hard part. Maybe the next game could involve Blaze's dimension. When was the last time that happened?
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Funny how "MattTheSpeedStar" said that Sonic Boom was going to rule... the reviews are finally out... so much for how awesome it was going to be .
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We didn't need the reviews, I was saying that shit was going to suck for months, along with a few others I know. Hell, we said the same shit about Sonic Lost Mind.
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I know that we didn't need the reviews; I never liked how Sonic Boom looked from the moment it hit the drawing bored. I'm just putting emphasis on how these retards all thought that this game was going to be epic despite the "haters" and now they can't hide behind that excuse because Sonic Boom legitimately sucks (and there's even more proof and it's in front of their faces).
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Only because the final product's flaws were glaringly obvious.
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... thanks for stating what I was implying 
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If only Big Red Button spent more time working on the game, and less time firing their employees. Too late, now.
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Just goes to show: Never hype a game. Hyping is bad.
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Indeed. I stopped getting hyped for games after Mass Effect 3. Had to learn the hard way
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I heard Mass Effect 3 had a terrible ending. Sending synthetics to kill organics every 50,000 years does NOT prevent organics from getting killed by synthetics... because organics are still being killed by synthetics. Yeah, I think this Catalyst thing either thinks differently, or is insane.
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You nailed it 
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Then again, the harvest thing does match their name. But still.
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They could have harvested... for much more logical reasons
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Like the life force of a million sentient species to power their conquest of the universe?
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Or like in Mass Effect 2, they could have harvested all life to copy their DNA to 'reproduce' and create more of their kind such as the Human ReaperΒ vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/aβ¦
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Right.
In other words, harvest the DNA to create more Reapers.
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Of course, being one of the people who have never played Mass Effect or its sequels, I don't have much of an opinion.
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Understandable. The games are still fun but the third just doesn't live up to the hype.
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I've seen some videos on youtube about it paired with a song from an anime movie called End of Evangelion.
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Even Boom has it's flaws thanks to the direction Big Red Button is taking it, as well as going by many of the things that comes out of Frot's mouth, however, it'sa big imporvement from what we've been getting for the past few years.
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again why I say it's gonna rule, as long as they make sure to not make anything broken like the parkour physics in Lost World
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Yeah, but a lot of people instantly became optomistic about the game when they already fucked up with Knuckles, then we're hearing it's been aimed for kids again, just like Colors and Lost World. I'm saying it's going to suck and I do like some of the things it's doing, but for all the bitching people were doing for years about flaws, I'm baffled how people just instantly fall in love with the games now, when they've been the most boring main titles we've had. Just gonna say this, I'm beingΒ cautious about this.
Also, the exclusivity to Nintendo consoles isn't helping anything.
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I think it's also useful to take lessons from other series that incorporate other characters/playstyles like Crash Bandicoot or even, dare i say it, Dynasty Warriors. What those series do is offer a few (or maybe many) playstyles that follow a series "core statement" shall we say? Crash was about going down a linear corridor breaking boxes. DW was exploring a wide space beating up Chinese people. Sonic is about getting from point A to point with flair, grace, attitude what have you.
What Lost World did that failed to understand this was offer so much variety that they couldn't focus on one particular style. Also hurting this was that it was all being carried on Sonic's, one characters, back. Probably the only part of the game that, if i were to play the game, that i would like would be the super wide levels like Desert Ruins 1. They're pretty barren and not very interesting at the sides, but i don't see how hard it'd be to make then even wider with more interesting backgrounds and then throw in a loop or slope or hill occasionally, and then make an entire game out of them.
The tube levels are derivative of Mario Galaxy, i've heard that the 2D sections are busted, the flying levels are derivative (of Jetpack Joyride, a Facebook game of all things) and busted, the snowball levels can kinda get away with being a ripoff of Super Monkey Ball since Sega also made that, but i've heard mixed things about them.
Basically, if you're gonna have multiple characters, make sure that while they have different abilities, they all have essentially the same goal, using their abilties to do it. Bonus points for having their own stages as well. What difference does playing as Tails of Knuckles in S3K make when i'm playing through the same order of stages?
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That was my favorite part of the Sonic series.... The other playable characters.
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I am a firm believer that every character can work, whether as playable main characters or secondary non-playable characters, and I also believe that adding characters broadens the Sonic universe.
They don't have all be in one game, but they can be in games when the plot calls for them. Β Plus, having more than one character in a story can lead to comedic scenes or serious moments since there are more than two characters for the each of them to bounce off of.
Another thing it can do is allow the characters to grow, learn from each other, and raise the stakes in a story. Β If more than one life is at stake, the more intense and exciting the story can become if written correctly.
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Pretty much agreed on all points there.
The bit about not having to have all in one game, like Tails, Chaotix, and Shadow, some fo these guys could get their own spin-off game, even a small digital one. A game soly about Knuckles and the Chaotix as supporting characters(but still playable) would be sick, as well as a game about Team Dark or even Silver. Even the Babylon Rogues can have sme kind of Gear boarding action adventure type of game, like Jet Set Radio with more action, with a mix of this old arcade game: www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-_8kFβ¦
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Um, what do you mean by "would be sick"?
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I meant that in a cool way.
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I agree for the most part, with characters like Silver, Shadow, Tails, Knuckles, Amy Etc. But I draw the line at Big. No one can tell me that fishing will improve my Sonic experience.
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Big was also in Heroes.....
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Well, okay, I didn't mind him in Heroes, he was actually kinda fun to play as in Heroes, but... Fishing... I hate fishing in real life, and I don't like it in video games.
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The general matter is the fact that they could take a character like Big and make him work in a much better way then before, and even the comics actually show him using his full strength, and even doing a spindash powerful enough to clear a path of trees, while still remaining the simple character that he is.
Of course, even then, there are more characters then just Big, he shouldn't be the only one focused on here, especially if he was already fixed.
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