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So ... yesterday i write=  its a not a real wing .. its a NOT  anatomy wings tutorial ... its just a type how to color wings . And if i see all the comments .. i must make one more tutorial with a perfect anatomy .... + i dont really understand your long long text  because my english is really bad and in your comments i translate only  "terrible tutorial" ..."it is not tutorial" 

...yes  for you is maybe a terrible tutorial  but for some others people its a really big help.And this is what you need to understand.  Anyway, thank you  




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Comments: 110

Skudde [2013-12-04 08:12:47 +0000 UTC]

Dear god this is terrible.

First of all I apologize for that sentence just now, but it was the first thing this tutorial made me think. You have lots of good, short and simple tutorials which I found very helpful and inspiring, which is one of the reasons I became your watcher. But these triangle-shaped fans of fur are so far from wings that it makes me wonder if this tutorial is really helpful at all - to anyone.
I know you wanted to demonstrate fantasy-styled wings instead of realistic ones, but I personally appreciate it that if an artist decides to make a tutorial about something, they also know their subject.

Sorry for this rantish critique. I admire your style and sense of color and contrast, but I just think it would have been better if you hadn't made this tutorial.

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theman4556 [2013-12-04 07:28:57 +0000 UTC]

Poorly done from an anatomy perspective, it's just painted well. Look out in nature...how many birds are flying around with friggin' triangle-wings.

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HappySaturday [2013-12-04 06:03:47 +0000 UTC]

YES YES YES!!Thanks~

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decayingfingers [2013-12-04 05:15:33 +0000 UTC]

Instead of complaining about how terrible this is, go make your own tutorial if you're that annoyed by it, people. Whining about it isn't going to do shit. 

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Skudde In reply to decayingfingers [2013-12-04 08:05:18 +0000 UTC]

Well, I think it is quite terrible, and if good wings is what you need to convince you that my argument is valid, then take a look at my two wing tutorials, fav.me/d34qbzx and fav.me/d688w8g .

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ppleater [2013-12-04 04:53:47 +0000 UTC]

Why not just use a normal wing to show feathers...?

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MoonkingAi [2013-12-04 04:35:13 +0000 UTC]

"easy"

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JulezRulez77 In reply to MoonkingAi [2013-12-04 05:39:20 +0000 UTC]

it doesnt look easy, but I once used one of ryky's hardest tutorials and it only took me a few minutes.

So try before complaining.

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MoonkingAi In reply to JulezRulez77 [2013-12-04 06:14:44 +0000 UTC]

I'm not complaining, I just think that what he shows is not easy so to speak.

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Ljoewing [2013-12-04 04:30:31 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! It is a beautiful wing >👍: 0 ⏩: 0

YamaBerryCZ [2013-12-04 03:11:48 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the tips!

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owls-in-october [2013-12-04 03:09:24 +0000 UTC]

Lovely shading! I'll have to try this. Thanks, Ryky!

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skyfireJax [2013-12-04 02:35:34 +0000 UTC]

thank you... I so needed this

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Between-Winds [2013-12-04 02:13:24 +0000 UTC]

The shading here is lovely, but I'm going to have to agree with everyone that the anatomy here is absolutely awful. I know you were going for a nonrealistic wing, but this comes across as being unwilling/not caring enough to look up a reference picture. I'd definitely rename this as a feather shading tutorial instead so that the young artists who use your tutorials don't start drawing their wings like this.

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Yuujikon [2013-12-04 02:09:46 +0000 UTC]

Of all the people complaining about little things, I like this alot I just wish I knew how to adjust the brushes to make my practice look better qwq

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AmandaMo1127 [2013-12-04 01:55:29 +0000 UTC]

So wait lemme get this straight...

In order to be allowed to draw how you want, you have to  draw how everybody else does first? Is that what I'm reading from all these comments? What an utter load of crap. Art is about free expression! If you want to draw wings that are less than accurate, that's your own damn prerogative! It makes no sense to come around and bitch about how it's not atomically correct . What are you, some sort of over educated art snob who frowns on anyone who doesn't follow the 'rules'?

The entire point of art is that THERE ARE NO RULES!

You have got to be kidding me with this nonsense. 

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Between-Winds In reply to AmandaMo1127 [2013-12-04 02:16:36 +0000 UTC]

Drawing wings is one thing, and if they want to draw all of their wings this way, well... power to the people. c: The problem people have with this is that the artist is popular and labeled this as a 'wing tutorial.' Because it's incorrect, that's a problem, because it'll teach the people who emulate them improper anatomy on an already-poorly-understood piece of anatomy. If you're going to teach someone to do something, you have to teach them the right way first before you teach them "stylization." c:

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Comraxe In reply to Between-Winds [2013-12-04 03:18:26 +0000 UTC]

No worries, with more experience, most people eventually learn to draw things the proper way and figure out themselves no matter what tutorial they learn from.

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AmandaMo1127 In reply to Between-Winds [2013-12-04 02:28:02 +0000 UTC]

I do not agree with this, at all.

 Anyone who's seen a picture of a bird could tell it's not a wing the way we see it in real life. It's not like the artist is trying to swindle people into drawing it 'wrong', so who cares?!

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anotherside12 In reply to AmandaMo1127 [2013-12-04 02:11:27 +0000 UTC]

But it just simply doesn't look good if there's no anatomy...

I'd say that anatomy is the most important thing in art. No matter how sketchy, if the anatomy is correct, it should look good.

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AmandaMo1127 In reply to anotherside12 [2013-12-04 02:24:53 +0000 UTC]

I've never studied anatomy in a course. Everything I have learned has been through my own two eyes, and a lesson we were given way back when I was in 4th grade about faces.

It absolutely drives me up the wall that people come around here and just because they don't like the esthetic, try to guilt the artist about how it's wrong. It's so rude, and comes off as stuck up to me. That's why it pisses me off. The  DA community is full of different art styles, and so saying we should all follow anatomical rules goes against what art is at it's core. Art is of your own choosing, education about the 'rules' or no. Each person is allowed to make whatever they want.

A perfect example of this is probably Jackson Pollock, and even to this day people still whine about it because it's not a more 'traditional' style.

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is-kill In reply to AmandaMo1127 [2013-12-04 02:07:40 +0000 UTC]

No need to be hostile. They just wanted to put this up and say "Hey, this is how I draw fantasy wings. If you like it, try it out! If you don't, then maybe the feather texture will help you instead." Art is free expression, but it's also about community. None of us would know how to draw anything if we didn't check out how other artists were doing their work. My personal style in not completely personal; it's a conglomeration of me and everything that's influenced me.

Also, wouldn't preventing someone from making a tutorial be suppressing free expression?

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cyberdemon107 [2013-12-04 01:10:37 +0000 UTC]

Why NOT make it realistic? You're talented, and instead of wings we see inspired by, say, swans bruningpottery.com/images/2012… that everyone and their dog attributed to angels in religious art, we get something that people typically draw on their "inner wolf"

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tokiratokia [2013-12-04 00:39:08 +0000 UTC]

THANKYOU THANKYOU THANKYOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hafique84 [2013-12-04 00:21:55 +0000 UTC]

nice Tutorial! its helpfull.

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saphire644 [2013-12-04 00:15:19 +0000 UTC]

There are many reasons to hate this artist's "tutorials" but part of the reason why he doesn't write actual tutorials is because the artist himself doesn't know the actual word to describe these pictures, because English isn't his first language.

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prettybonesx [2013-12-04 00:01:41 +0000 UTC]

Wow. Kill the hate people.
There's no reason for it.

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Syvaender In reply to prettybonesx [2013-12-04 00:54:42 +0000 UTC]

How's any of the previous comments hate? It's constructive criticism. "Woah this sucks!" would be hate. c:

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cinamonbunny In reply to Syvaender [2013-12-04 01:05:06 +0000 UTC]

You're right about that, but to me, the comments hating on this tutorial seem more like complaining

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Acayth In reply to prettybonesx [2013-12-04 00:03:25 +0000 UTC]

You cannot IMAGINE how much reason there actually is.

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prettybonesx In reply to Acayth [2013-12-04 00:11:12 +0000 UTC]

 

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Koeskull [2013-12-03 23:50:58 +0000 UTC]

I found a good wing reference atethirteen.deviantart.com/art…

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punkylee-draws [2013-12-03 23:48:43 +0000 UTC]

Even for a "fantasy" concept, the anatomy on this is really off. It doesn't look stylized, it just looks wrong. The feather part is good, but I would hardly call this a tutorial...it's more of a step by step with no explanation of the steps.


If you want to stylize something, first learn the rules so you know how to break them without just looking like you have no clue what you're doing.


Honestly, I'm sort of getting tired of seeing "tutorials" on this site that are not only incorrect, but harmful to the young/beginner artists attempting to learn from them. :/

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AmandaMo1127 In reply to punkylee-draws [2013-12-04 02:11:49 +0000 UTC]

Exactly why does anatomical inaccuracy 'damage' beginner artists? Maybe they want to be surrealists, or maybe they're interested in impressionism. Maybe, like every other artist, they want to draw, HOW THEY WANT TO DRAW. If someone sees this, and wants something more anatomically correct, they can move on.

Most people with any visual memory and artistic leanings will see this and automatically know it's not anatomically correct. But it's art, you can cr4eate whatever you want whenever you want. The description even says in so many words " I don't give a flying f*#! about being anatomically correct." And you know what?; that is absolutely acceptable.

You can study art, but there are no rules, there are simply guidelines, and what you see. That's it. No one deserves to be ridiculed because they don't draw things the way someone else would.

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punkylee-draws In reply to AmandaMo1127 [2013-12-04 02:35:54 +0000 UTC]

You do realize that all good artists, regardless of their "style", know the rules, and the proper way to do things first? A good impressionist or surrealist still KNOWS the fundamentals. If you don't know them, it SHOWS. Justifying it as a how they want to draw is fine...but you'll never improve. You'll just continue to create flawed, amateurish drawings. Period. Why do you think there are art schools, where you LEARN how to properly draw? Why do you think artists devote so much time to learning proper anatomy? Even the most highly stylized art has some foundation in reality, unless you are drawing something completely abstract, which ryky clearly was NOT.

I mean, no one's stopping you from drawing how you want. I wasn't implying ryky STOP drawing how they want. But if you're going to make a tutorial telling someone how to properly do something...and you yourself are not correct, that's where the problem lies. They're trying to teach others, without properly knowing how to do it themselves. That's like someone who has no idea how to bake cookies making a tutorial on how to make cookies. Sure, they can. They can justify it as "just how they bake". But that won't make the cookies taste any better.

And how exactly was I "ridiculing" anyone? I simply pointed out, constructively, the flaws in the piece.
This is an art site. If you can't handle critique, then you don't belong here. Posting your art in a public forum opens you to critique. If you can't even handle a little constructive crit, you're never going to succeed as an artist.

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AmandaMo1127 In reply to punkylee-draws [2013-12-04 02:45:28 +0000 UTC]

My point is that just because a person isn't artistically educated about something, does not mean they deserve to be frowned upon in this way.

Regardless of your opinion or your intent, this artist's work still has value, and just as much value as any college educated artist who could replicate a photo on canvas flawlessly. The difference doesn't matter. If you want to draw realism, you go to school for that. If you want to create something purely of your own esthetic, education goes out the window, because you're doing what you FEEL more than anything else. This person made a choice about how they wanted to draw a wing, and just because it doesn't follow anatomical rules does not make it 'wrong'. It just means you don't like it.

Criticizing a person's personal choice is pointless, unless it effects you personally, which in this case it doesn't.

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punkylee-draws In reply to AmandaMo1127 [2013-12-04 02:59:33 +0000 UTC]

I'm not "frowning" on them because they aren't art school educated. I've never been to art school. I took half an art class when I was in third grade and dropped out. I don't draw realism. I don't WANT to draw photo realism. But I still need to know proper anatomy and rules in order to break them. I can call it "my style" all I want, but if there's no fundamentals behind it, it's still going to look like I don't know what I'm doing.


I never said their art had no value, nor am I telling them they have to draw photo realism. 


It doesn't affect YOU personally either, yet I noticed you took the time to post a reply with YOUR opinion. xD

I like how you are all up in arms about my supposed "intolerance" when you yourself are saying I can only have an opinion that agrees with YOU. 


Anyway, I'm done arguing with you over this. You can whine and cry about how I'm "picking" on this artist, but the fact remains that they put this out in the public and opened themselves to differing opinions and criticism. 

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anotherside12 [2013-12-03 23:43:12 +0000 UTC]

There is no such thing as fantasy anatomy. :/ It's just an excuse to not even try to study real anatomy. Everything has a real anatomy and if it's off this badly, it looks bad no matter what style.

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Skudde In reply to anotherside12 [2013-12-04 08:21:23 +0000 UTC]

"There's no such thing as fantasy anatomy."
Thank god for saying that! It applies also to wannabe manga artists.

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SevenZee In reply to anotherside12 [2013-12-04 02:45:42 +0000 UTC]

There's no such thing as fantasy anatomy? That right there is a lie.


I make up so many fantasy creatures who have weird anatomy. I TRY to make it make sense but Im not gonna go studying all anatomy in the world to make it 100% accurate, so some parts make no sense. But ya know what, that's fun. That, is fantasy anatomy.


 While I loathe the way these wings themselves were drawn and I feel like many beginning artists wont read the description, fantasy anatomy is a thing.

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Falconsong In reply to anotherside12 [2013-12-04 00:55:23 +0000 UTC]

This SO hard.  "Style" is something you have only AFTER you've mastered anatomy and can simplify that anatomy to your unique method of drawing it, not something you use to explain crappy (or in this case a complete lack of) anatomy.

Someone above me posted a decent image of avian wing anatomy, I'd like to add to it.  Avian wings were actually my focus of study for my masters thesis, so I have some good links and info collected on my thesis page for avian anatomy here: www.falconsongstudios.com/?pag… I also strongly suggest reading this tutorial (ACTUAL tutorial, not a process drawing like this one): uzlo.deviantart.com/art/Though… Uzlo's tutorial is one of the best I've seen!

To the Op: Ryky, you have very excellent shading abilities, but I strongly advice you to do your research on bird wings instead of drawing feather dusters like these. A good understanding combined with your outstanding skills at shading would make a deadly and gorgeous combination!

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NagoshiAshumari [2013-12-03 23:34:54 +0000 UTC]

While the coloring is beautiful, the anatomy of the wings is all wrong. You shouldn't be giving this as a reference for wings... this is a reference for coloring. And it's not much of a tutorial if there's no description on how it's done.

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Syvaender [2013-12-03 23:01:59 +0000 UTC]

First: This is not a tutorial. This is barely a step-by-step.
Second. You are a very good artist but you go forth with one of the worst examples you can find for drawing wings and you even call it a tutorial, which may imply to some unexperienced artists, that this is the right way to portray wings. It's not.
This is rather two sticks with a feathermop on them. And don't give me the anime-wings argument. This is just a weak excuse to not look up proper wing anatomy. 
For me it always destroys the whole piece, if a beautiful manga/anime angel gets ridiculed by wings like these.
Don't encourage the use of those stick feather mops. 

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Koeskull In reply to Syvaender [2013-12-03 23:49:24 +0000 UTC]

I have to agree.. the anatomy reminds me of how children draw wings. Even fantasy or cartoon wings aren't simply triangles...

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Syvaender In reply to Koeskull [2013-12-03 23:58:55 +0000 UTC]

As I said. It's just a weird excuse to not study anatomy properly :c

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Tsumugi-Chan In reply to Syvaender [2013-12-03 23:38:25 +0000 UTC]

lmfao

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AJInu-Okami In reply to Syvaender [2013-12-03 23:36:09 +0000 UTC]

Mops? Doesn't look like mops to me, but whatevs.

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Syvaender In reply to AJInu-Okami [2013-12-03 23:47:32 +0000 UTC]

www.j-stuff.de/out/pictures/ma…

Even this thing has better feather layering and overlapping than those so called wings.

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Skudde In reply to Syvaender [2013-12-04 08:22:29 +0000 UTC]

That picture just made my whole day.

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Acayth In reply to AJInu-Okami [2013-12-03 23:43:42 +0000 UTC]

At least it's a beautiful mop!

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