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Description Welcome to Rehab for Roleplayers, a series of articles aimed at helping roleplayers more successfully make the transition into writing fiction.



Introduction: How to Spot a Drow Illusionist


I can identify a habitual roleplayer from fifty paces. Those who've been spooked by my asking whether they're a roleplayer within ten seconds of reading their fiction will know what I'm talking about.

"But how did you know?" they gasp. When I'm done chuckling, I explain that I know they are a roleplayer, because they write like a roleplayer.

There's usually a pause, then, while the writer decides to what degree they're going to feel offended by this statement, and/or wonders whether I've been stalking them, before they pose the next question: "What, exactly, do you mean by that?"

What I mean is this: roleplayers almost invariably share the same basic writing habits, and some of these habits stand out as flaws in their non-RP material.

Many people develop their interest in writing via roleplay, and then a desire to write outside of that sphere as their RP skills grow past a certain point. The problem in transitioning from RP to fiction is that RP teaches people writing habits that simply don't wash in the real world of writing.

What makes these habits difficult to both identify and to shake is that they are generally learned by osmosis; the roleplayer does not deliberately or consciously learn them, but assimilates a set of habits over a period of time as they seek to become a better roleplayer, and strive to gain the esteem of their peers in the roleplay world.

The fact is, a great roleplayer does not need to be a great writer. While the best roleplayers are inherently, even obsessively, concerned with language, they still gain their successes in an area where the rules of publication-standard fiction do not apply.

In this series, I aim to help roleplayers identify these tell-tale habits so that they may, in doing so, eliminate those which are affecting their capacity to write fiction.

The language of RP is not the same as the language of fiction. The structure of a great RP is not the same as the structure of a novel or a short story. For the purpose of these articles, I have divided the relevant RP habits into two categories: language and structure.


In Part One, I'll begin the discussion of language, and identification of those RP habits which I have observed to be problematic in fiction.
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Comments: 115

BATTLEFAIRIES [2015-05-05 08:08:15 +0000 UTC]

Oooh I can tell this is going to be a great read!
And what a title.
Great work!

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SoulCrystal214 [2014-08-19 16:11:01 +0000 UTC]

I started out differently than most rpers, then. XD I started out writing fiction, and /then/ got into rping. But I probably still have habits that don't work in one way or another, as rping is now more common for me than writing fiction. So... Off to read all these I go! XD

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SoulCrystal214 In reply to SoulCrystal214 [2016-08-05 13:17:35 +0000 UTC]

Several years later, I've made the transition back to primarily fiction writing. I still roleplay from time to time, but I often get stymid because I am a perfectionist with my writing.

But, for curiosity's sake, I'll be reading these again. Always good to see if you can pick up pointers from somewhere, even when you're experienced in both fields discussed.

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talkingcamara [2012-02-03 23:58:15 +0000 UTC]

I think I need this very badly, lol. Thank you for theses.

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salshep In reply to talkingcamara [2012-02-09 12:27:42 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome! If you found it useful, please feel free to pass the link around.

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DesiresUndisclosed [2011-09-08 14:29:26 +0000 UTC]

I am interested in this. Never realized there was a difference between the two!

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snarkyVansnarkson [2011-09-06 16:32:30 +0000 UTC]

I always feel a little strange when a piece is sold to me as ordinary fiction, but it comes across as narrative from a dungeon master.

"You see a beautiful woman in front of you. You walk toward her but she does not notice you. You..."

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Storm-Torrent [2011-08-31 17:42:02 +0000 UTC]

Wow, this is SO true. Excited to read more!

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salshep In reply to Storm-Torrent [2011-09-01 11:54:41 +0000 UTC]

Cheers, glad you liked it!

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Jburns272 [2011-08-31 15:22:34 +0000 UTC]

For a roleplayer who is considering dabbling in writing, this looks very helpful

Personally though, I think it's obvious that there would be some differences. I mean a novel reads differently from a campaign. The situations are very different.

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salshep In reply to Jburns272 [2011-09-01 11:54:25 +0000 UTC]

I hope it is! Thanks for reading.

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FrozenSilver99 [2011-08-31 05:02:06 +0000 UTC]

... I think of SO many people when I read this...

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salshep In reply to FrozenSilver99 [2011-09-01 11:54:03 +0000 UTC]

Send it to them?

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phoenixofthenet [2011-08-31 03:33:50 +0000 UTC]

Beautiful, Sal, just beautiful.

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salshep In reply to phoenixofthenet [2011-09-01 11:53:52 +0000 UTC]

thank you

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Rukkys [2011-08-31 02:17:31 +0000 UTC]

This might come in handy. =3

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salshep In reply to Rukkys [2011-09-01 11:53:36 +0000 UTC]

I hope so!

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HonnuArt [2011-08-31 01:47:27 +0000 UTC]

I'm gonna read this. Thanks! This could REALLY help so much!

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salshep In reply to HonnuArt [2011-09-01 11:53:26 +0000 UTC]

Let me know if it does.

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HonnuArt In reply to salshep [2011-09-01 12:41:06 +0000 UTC]

I think it already has! I'm going to work to changing my writing style!

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iPixehKitteh [2011-08-31 00:51:56 +0000 UTC]

roleplaying enhanced my writing skills, actually.
I'm not saying that I'm an amazing writer, because personally, im a digital artist.
but still.

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salshep In reply to iPixehKitteh [2011-09-01 11:53:05 +0000 UTC]

It enhanced mine too, a heap. But I didn't just want to stay a roleplayer and when I made the change to fiction found there was a heap of snags, so that's why I wrote it.

I'd not be writing fiction now at all, if was not for those rp years.

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iPixehKitteh In reply to salshep [2011-09-01 19:51:01 +0000 UTC]

exactly, and my friend is a roleplayer, and she writes like, 2000 word responses u3u

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13-Drastic-13 [2011-08-31 00:42:39 +0000 UTC]

I wrote stories first. Then found roleplaying. I sometimes use what I've learned in RP and apply it to relevant stories. For example: I'm, by habit, a wolf rp-er, and when I write wolf-related fiction, I sometimes use the realistic habits I've learned through roleplay and at the cause of roleplay (i.e, researching to be more "realistic") and apply them to writing.

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salshep In reply to 13-Drastic-13 [2011-09-01 11:51:38 +0000 UTC]

I find these days a lot more back-and-forth is possible because I know how to translate an rp idea into fiction more effectively. I did find it useful for learning dialogue.

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Zetsumeimaru [2011-08-30 22:58:35 +0000 UTC]

I think I'm gonna like this.

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salshep In reply to Zetsumeimaru [2011-09-01 11:50:08 +0000 UTC]

Let me know if you do!

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Zetsumeimaru In reply to salshep [2011-09-01 19:41:19 +0000 UTC]

oh yeah. I like it.

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writerwithasword [2011-08-30 22:42:04 +0000 UTC]

Like some of the commenters prior, I transitioned the other way: from writing to roleplaying. And thank goodness. I've been able to use roleplaying more as practice to hone my writing skills rather than using it as a reference on how to write. This is an excellent idea and I shall most likely be reading the rest of these simply because.

Congrats on the DD!

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salshep In reply to writerwithasword [2011-09-01 11:49:53 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! (and well-written rp is a pure joy!)

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writerwithasword In reply to salshep [2011-09-01 17:29:11 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome. (Agreed!)

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Endorell-Taelos [2011-08-30 21:29:15 +0000 UTC]

I know it isn't easy to write stories.. I was at first an avid roleplayer, I always wanted to try and make the transition into writing stories. I'm finding it really hard to do, I don't know if it's a case of mountainous writers block (as I say) or it's just the fact that I feel roleplaying is the most simplest to do.

Anyway, I will bookmark these and read then at a later stage. :'D

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salshep In reply to Endorell-Taelos [2011-09-01 11:49:07 +0000 UTC]

That's part of why I wrote this. I found fiction -really- intimidating, having written rp for years before trying stories. Lack of focus was the main problem, and I still struggle with plots. >< Getting there, though.

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Endorell-Taelos In reply to salshep [2011-09-01 11:51:08 +0000 UTC]

Good luck *-*

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LePalindrome [2011-08-30 21:03:36 +0000 UTC]

I'm going to read this.

But I started the other way, from writing to RPing

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salshep In reply to LePalindrome [2011-09-01 11:47:36 +0000 UTC]

Let me know what you thought!

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Rinnian [2011-08-30 20:02:07 +0000 UTC]

It's funny when other roleplayers I know have this huge aversion to just the simple 'said' dialogue tag.

...then again, so do the trashy romance authors whose books you can find at Wal Mart.

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salshep In reply to Rinnian [2011-09-01 11:47:18 +0000 UTC]

Ahaha - yes, they do! (not that I read those >> )

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Brassassin [2011-08-30 19:43:24 +0000 UTC]

I need to read more on this! Thanks so much for putting all this up.

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salshep In reply to Brassassin [2011-09-01 11:46:40 +0000 UTC]

Cheers! Glad you liked it.

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arivess [2011-08-30 19:27:34 +0000 UTC]

I just have to say, this is amazing. <3 I started out writing, and then went into RPing, then noticed it was making my writing suffer in some ways, because some RP habits are really, really bad for actual writing. Exceeeeeept I had no idea how to fix it. XD; I'm so glad you wrote this!

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salshep In reply to arivess [2011-09-01 11:46:06 +0000 UTC]

I'm glad you read it!

I still find those habits rubbing off on my fiction after a lengthy binge with rp. ><

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LyanAvalin [2011-08-30 19:10:23 +0000 UTC]

I kind of went the other way around, started as a writer and then headed into RP xD

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salshep In reply to LyanAvalin [2011-09-01 11:45:09 +0000 UTC]

Did you find RP strange at first?

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LyanAvalin In reply to salshep [2011-09-01 17:59:44 +0000 UTC]

I was good at character setup, but pretty much failed at the actual RP-ing. So, yes.

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Shenachie [2011-08-30 17:45:12 +0000 UTC]

This is an excellent tutorial for writing in general as well as for RP-to-fiction. As a gamer, I've just started to try my hand at some of my own fan-fiction. Fortunately (hopefully), I did not spot too many of my own habits in these articles. I did, however, spot several things that I already try to bear in mind as I write so maybe can avoid too many of these literary potholes.
Thanks for such an informative and delightful read!

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salshep In reply to Shenachie [2011-09-01 11:44:36 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for reading!

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FantasiaKitty [2011-08-30 17:20:57 +0000 UTC]

When I first saw this, I didn't think I was going to sit and read through all of the articles . . . but then I found myself not being able to stop. As I began writing fiction long before I began roleplaying, I'm pretty relieved to see that I'm not guilty of most of the things you listed, but the syntax article was pretty much dead on. This was a huge help! Many thanks!

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salshep In reply to FantasiaKitty [2011-09-01 11:44:10 +0000 UTC]

Cheers! If i can save someone learning by slow trial and error like I did, then it's very worth having written it.

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Senex-de-Umbris [2011-08-30 17:16:47 +0000 UTC]

Wonderful.
Very interesting to read, and surely good for people who have problems with that - it's hard to overcome these RP writing habits alone, so I am glad that there's help^^
Your writing style is very enjoyable to read, i think.

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