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1TrueMAA [2012-09-07 08:31:07 +0000 UTC]

Thank you XD. finally someone who agrees.
im not athiest, but im buddhist(and proud)and i believe in several gods, but not to the point of going to church regularly , or pray ( cuz it is a one dided conversation)un less i go to temple once a year
im not that religous because people go to far it doesnt really matter.so i say shut up, if god existed why are there so many terrible things happening in the world? explain revalution without science.(sorry for the long comment)

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bluezebra8675309 [2012-09-01 03:58:05 +0000 UTC]

...i really dont know how to react to this....im not mad or anything but...you know...weird
im just a young girl, looking through the internet, and i see this.
I think it will be...well different then it is, so i click it.

...now i just feel...bad
i really wish i didn't click this, but please don't be mad.

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Sc1r0n In reply to bluezebra8675309 [2012-09-01 05:17:38 +0000 UTC]

Look, you shouldn't feel bad and of course I don't feel mad about you not liking this. I don't know how old you are but truth is that the internet is a strange place to be since you're exposed to a number of different things but the good thing is that anyone can state their views freely and be part of a constructive dialogue. This is how we built the future.

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bluezebra8675309 In reply to Sc1r0n [2012-09-02 01:30:53 +0000 UTC]

thanks for understanding^^

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Aclepticmusic [2012-08-25 21:33:11 +0000 UTC]

Oh so true.

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ninjatakes321 [2012-08-25 19:21:04 +0000 UTC]

Like talking to the president, his workers handle it

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bloodsuckingmonster3 [2012-08-24 15:19:10 +0000 UTC]

I find having an argument with myself more useful than praying and only pray when things get truly terrible, like when my boss killed herself. I prayed just because no-one else would listen but it was more just to make myself feel better.

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Sc1r0n In reply to bloodsuckingmonster3 [2012-08-24 15:42:22 +0000 UTC]

Damn I'm sorry about your boss But look... I understand people praying and using the prayer as a mean of feeling better about yourself. I believe in good energy and I believe prayer to be just that, positive thinking. Positive thinking helps but it's not a complete answer. You have to physicaly do something to get out of your situation, you have to help yourself and never wait for anybody else to help you. That's how you become stronger and sadly...that's life

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bloodsuckingmonster3 In reply to Sc1r0n [2012-08-25 02:12:42 +0000 UTC]

Believe me, I don't look to anyone to keep me strong. I was broken when I was very young and ever since everything has been so fake for me, but it's fine, this way I can never care about anything or anyone.

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gdragonlollipoplove [2012-08-23 21:07:08 +0000 UTC]

I totally agree with this XD And religious shouldn`t get offended by this. nice creativity!

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Sc1r0n In reply to gdragonlollipoplove [2012-08-24 12:54:35 +0000 UTC]

thank you

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gdragonlollipoplove In reply to Sc1r0n [2012-08-24 19:35:12 +0000 UTC]

No,thank you for writing that! I also like "why I became an atheist" ! It was quite ggod and insperational!

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animeaddictotakuu [2012-08-15 13:48:30 +0000 UTC]

God answers back
he has his ways

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Sc1r0n In reply to animeaddictotakuu [2012-08-15 16:02:31 +0000 UTC]

Sure. Which God are we talking about? The Christian God,Allah,Ra,Zeus or Odin? Because from what I hear, people only get answers from the Christian God and Allah so that could mean the other Gods are dead or never existed...and this of course could mean that in a 100 years some new "God" will take the place of the current gods and make them look silly.

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Feare909 [2012-07-24 11:04:24 +0000 UTC]

PRAYER! Cause it's more powerful than actually getting up and taking action!

Meh, praying is all good for personal morale and hope, but don't put ALL of your wagers in it.

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FireBay [2012-07-14 10:49:19 +0000 UTC]

Praying is NOT a one sided conversation. i am a Muslim and we pray everyday and YES God does answer us. All we have to do is keep faith and open our inner eyes a little to notice.

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Sc1r0n In reply to FireBay [2012-07-14 14:41:48 +0000 UTC]

You believe you are getting answers from God but what if you're the one giving yourself the answers to your own problems?

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FireBay In reply to Sc1r0n [2012-07-18 06:39:31 +0000 UTC]

yes, that's what science says and your are not completely "right" (i am a person of science as well) but why all of this is called 'faith' ever thought upon the logic that "faith" is GOD and we are supposed to keep faith in him?
Now coming to your point about praying, without faith or in other words praying to have that surety. We are helping are selves by praying to Him. He does answers (i am not sure you completely understand if you ever have experienced praying and actually feeling that peace)
one thing boggles my mind, in your phrase...how are we ever getting our own problems solved, yes we do reflect them but solving or giving answers to them them....?

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Marahuta [2012-06-02 16:19:49 +0000 UTC]

it's not a conversation

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TillShilohComes [2012-04-25 10:33:54 +0000 UTC]

A one sided conversation? That would be not praying to God, talking to myself as if I had all the answers when I don't. God has never failed to answer me.

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Sc1r0n In reply to TillShilohComes [2012-04-25 10:38:05 +0000 UTC]

Can you explain exactly how God answers to you?

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TillShilohComes In reply to Sc1r0n [2012-04-25 11:09:08 +0000 UTC]

Yes I can.

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Sc1r0n In reply to TillShilohComes [2012-04-25 11:47:13 +0000 UTC]

Go ahead or if you like you can send me a note and discuss it in private

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TillShilohComes In reply to Sc1r0n [2012-04-26 09:33:54 +0000 UTC]

I don't have to do it by note, unless you want me to? I got nothing to hide, and I am not ashamed of my faith. But let me know what you prefer?

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Sc1r0n In reply to TillShilohComes [2012-04-26 13:33:24 +0000 UTC]

You can do it in public, there's no problem

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TillShilohComes In reply to Sc1r0n [2012-04-27 02:34:44 +0000 UTC]

Ok.

First, God talks to me through His Word, the Bible.

His Word tells me Who God is, even to His name. It tells me What God is, what He has done, what He plans to do. What intends for Mankind, why He made them, who we are, what He wants us to do, how He wants us to do it. The right way to live. What is wrong, what is right.

Can I question what is in the Bible? Most definitely, because God gave us free will, He want's us to have reasoned faith along with belief. In the Bible, you can see where God has been questioned. For instance, Moses asked many & negotiated with God (Lot also). (sure, you do not believe in God, so to you this might sound like a story, that is ok).

In the Bible is prophecy, given to men (and women) by God. A great deal of it has been fulfilled, but still some remains to be fulfilled. God tells us what will occur, not only what He plans for us, but events mankind will cause themselves.

God told us about Christ from as far back as Genesis, my tag, Isaiah.9:6-7, is prophecy given to Isaiah hundreds of years before Christ was born.

I have studied God's Word, for many years. When I have needed answers, I have received them through his word, as well as direct. Does God talk to me? Yes, though there is no great thundering voice. It is a quiet voice that guides my actions. Do I always listen, do as directed? No, and I have found that when I don't listen correctly, & or do not follow the direction (free will and obstinacy), I invariably find I SHOULD HAVE! When I say a quiet voice, to explain.. have you ever wanted to do something, seems it would be a good thing, profitable to you, of good benefit? Yet, some thing inside you, like a quiet voice says no? You cannot see any reason why not, so you go ahead with it, to find it an utter disaster? Some like to call it sixth sense, I know it is God. He will warn me, but He will not take my free will away. The same happened with Israel. Every time they obeyed God, they prospered, when they went against Him, they did not, because they put themselves beyond His protection.

Some get visions (this can come while awake, or in dreams. M'Lady (my pet name for my wife), has had some dreams like this, all have come true. She knows which ones are from God and which ones are just dreams. One in particular was a warning, it became bitterly true. Sometimes it can be flashes of insight.

There is more, but this is a start.

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Sc1r0n In reply to TillShilohComes [2012-04-27 04:46:28 +0000 UTC]

I can see where you're coming from my friend and I can understand we you believe in God so much. If you want to see where I'm coming from I've written a short text called "How I became an Atheist": [link] . You know what I see both in good religious people and in good Atheists (and I say good because both sides have good and bad people)?

It's a thing that I tell to every religious friend of mind that questions my lack of belief. "If I didn't tell you I don't believe in god, you wouldn't know". Yup. We're the exact same people. We have morals, wifes,kids, loved ones. Yes, we might be different in a single aspect but what make us similar are not less than what make us different. It's like voting for a different political party. What makes the whole thing different though and more heavy as a subject is that for religious people the salvation of the soul and afterlife is hanging in the balance.

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TillShilohComes In reply to Sc1r0n [2012-04-27 07:53:03 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the link.
Yes, I see good in both those who have faith and those that don't, because (this is my belief), we are all born with the potential for both good and evil, wrong & right. We have the potential for good because God made us good and breathed life into us so we have part of His Spirit in us. But we ALL also have potential for sin & no matter how we might try, we will sin, some, more than others.

Your 'teacher', was human, I think you put him on too high a pedestal so that when he sinned (and was caught out, he showed just how 'human' he was and that he was capable of sin. He was not Christ, but obviously, he was important in your life, you raised him up in your mind a lot higher than he truly was. It would have been a big let down, I can understand that. He should have taught you about forgiveness (though at an impressionable age, that is not always easy). This is why we needed Christ's sacrifice, none are without sin. When we raise up a human like this, almost to the point of worship, we soon see our 'idol' fall. I am sorry you had the experience, but believe me, we have all been disappointed by someone, always will be, we fall for the lie, because only Christ was sinless. I hope you can find it within yourself to forgive your teacher.Even if you do not believe in God, it is good to forgive, good for the soul, because we all sin, and can only hope that we be forgiven by those we sin against.

Actually, I was not 'questioning your lack of belief', I thought here you were 'questioning my belief'? Wanted to know how I saw God talking to me'. I knew you were atheist, before we first talked.

I agree we are all the same people, we are all human, all not perfect, we do good and we do ill, no matter how good our morals are, and what we base them on, why we have them.

First, I do not have 'a religion', I have faith in God, faith in Jesus Christ. Religion is of man, faith is of God. Has some of Christianity lost it's way? Yes, I agree with that, some of it has become like the Pharisee's and the Sanhedrin. They hold to ritual & tradition, rather than Love. Christ called some of them a 'nest of vipers'. Well, there are 'vipers' today as well, but He told us there would be, told us there would be false teachers, false Christians, false 'religions' etc.

I believe the difference between true Christians and others is that Christians KNOW there is an eternal life & they want to spend theirs with God, not Satan. This is what they see hanging in the balance, not eternal life itself, because we will ALL get that, God promised it, and He does not break His promises, ever. What sways in the balance, is WHERE we are going to spend that eternal life. Of course, that will be entirely up to God, and Christ, because only He can judge any of us, none of us have that authority when it comes to each other. From what I know, atheists do not believe in any kind of afterlife?

I mean no offence in any of this, this is my faith, you wanted to know how God talks to me, this is what He tells me.

I hope we can continue to discuss my brother in Greece, if you don't wish to, I will respect that. Just let me know.

All peace & love to you and yours.

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super-maya [2012-04-05 20:20:49 +0000 UTC]

praying, if you are not going tothis you will want to run away, from my own life

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Protoeyesore [2012-04-02 04:52:46 +0000 UTC]

When millions of people pray together, I think there is more to it then a one sided conversation.

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Sc1r0n In reply to Protoeyesore [2012-04-02 05:38:34 +0000 UTC]

Do they get an answer back? And if they do, how can they tell the difference that this answer is from "god" or just their own self? It doesn't matter how many people pray, the result is always the same. Luck and possibilities are doing their thing, no matter how much people pray against them.

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Protoeyesore In reply to Sc1r0n [2012-04-02 21:22:44 +0000 UTC]

Some people don't want to seek the answer, but try to simply know it. Some people want to just be told the "truth". The problem is in that these "truths" are unrealistic and outdated. Also this "truth" is bent and molded into whatever people want.


But tell me this, the happiness of calling the wonders of earth "Gods Doing" is universal. They have someone to look up to. No matter what happens, they always have someone to trust. Someone who is there for them in time of sadness or poverty. Who do you know in life you will always love you and everyone else?

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Sc1r0n In reply to Protoeyesore [2012-04-02 21:30:00 +0000 UTC]

Some people just see all the good things this "god" does for them and tend to ignore the rest. Oh well.

Who you ask? My wife and my mother. I'd prefer to worship them and pray to them, than any other "god". Seriously, these "gods" people are praying to are no different than praying to a random person you've once seen in the bus.

Now, let me ask you. Do you believe that gods love, morality and guidance is better than anybody you've ever met?

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Protoeyesore In reply to Sc1r0n [2012-04-02 22:55:26 +0000 UTC]

Which God?

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Sc1r0n In reply to Protoeyesore [2012-04-03 04:49:59 +0000 UTC]

any god.

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Protoeyesore In reply to Sc1r0n [2012-04-03 04:53:21 +0000 UTC]

Not really, I sorta tried when I was young. Everyone around me felt it though.

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Knightster [2012-03-08 07:30:06 +0000 UTC]

Good one I've heard something similar:

"When you talk to god, it's called prayer.
But when god talks back, it's called schizophrenia"

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Sc1r0n In reply to Knightster [2012-03-08 08:06:02 +0000 UTC]

Yup, there are many sayings like that but remember : god never talks back to these people praying That's pretty damn convinient

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Kaptin-Kudzu [2012-02-28 02:40:29 +0000 UTC]

You'd call a one sided conversation talking to yourself

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Sc1r0n In reply to Kaptin-Kudzu [2012-02-28 05:25:49 +0000 UTC]

exactly And if you do it too much, these people are going to take you to that padded special place

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Pureeavle [2011-11-08 12:45:27 +0000 UTC]

True!

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blu-hell-smith [2011-11-07 14:39:12 +0000 UTC]

I honestly thought that the small text was going to read "The best way to hide an awkward boner" because of the image's bible and hand placement... although now that i look a little closer, that's probably a chick.

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Maehedrose [2011-10-27 02:11:19 +0000 UTC]

It's only one sided if you refuse to listen.

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Sc1r0n In reply to Maehedrose [2011-10-27 05:55:38 +0000 UTC]

That's when you suppose a person never tried to listen, right?

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Maehedrose In reply to Sc1r0n [2011-10-27 07:21:54 +0000 UTC]

Did you believe you'd receive a response while you were listening? Sometimes that response comes in ways you might not recognize right away, and sometimes it is very quiet and you really have to want to listen. And, sometimes, depending on what you're asking, there may not be a good response and that answer may need to come from you. The gods and the spirits don't always give you want you want, and sometimes you're not in the right frame of mind to hear them and you have to try again later, and perhaps in a different way. That is one of the rare times a priest is useful for helping you understand why you might not have heard or received a response. When you're talking about speaking to another entity of a nature unfathomable by humans, there are a lot of little things that can interfere. But if you go into it with the right mindset and the right intentions, eventually you'll hear that voice ... in whatever way is most appropriate for you.

Remember, though, it isn't like picking up a telephone and you can't always expect to get crystal clear reception.

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Sc1r0n In reply to Maehedrose [2011-10-27 07:32:56 +0000 UTC]

DO you think that anybody that believes or believed in God is waiting for a response? Are people waiting a response in terms of voice or signs? Because if people are waiting for signs rather than actual proof for the existence of God, then nothing has changed since the bronze ages where people sliced up goats and read omens in their guts and seriously now, even if you believe, you don't need a priest to tell you and explain you the ways of your God. You can educate yourself and if you keep an open mind you are going to see some amazing stuff in all the holy books out there. From Unicorns to talking donkeys and from Holy wars to total genocide.

If God exists for you, the second thing that you should believe (after that he exists) is that he doesn't need experts to talk on his behalf.

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Maehedrose In reply to Sc1r0n [2011-10-27 07:58:43 +0000 UTC]

Never claimed that he did ... what I said was, if you can't hear or understand what your god is saying, then you need to ask someone to help you. It helps if that someone shares your belief, so they can give you another perspective on the "whys" of things. You were the person suggesting it was a one way conversation and that you'd listened but apparently heard nothing, (otherwise it wouldn't be a one way conversation) I was giving you some suggestions on how you might learn to see things differently.

Besides which, that statement is worthless. Even among our own cultures we need people to step in sometimes and help us communicate; parents who can't communicate with their kids; husbands and wives who can't communicate with one another; communication is a lot harder than "speak and be understood" ... especially when dealing with an entity that does not perceive things in the same ways as yourself.

But, if the conversations are one sided for you and you don't have the motivation to look for a solution to that, then that is your decision and, ultimately, the only person you can blame for that lack of communication is yourself.

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Sc1r0n In reply to Maehedrose [2011-10-27 08:26:36 +0000 UTC]

Sorry but I never needed anybody to help me communicate with anything. Once I was very drunk and started talking to a fire hydrant,I wonder why it never answered me back, maybe I wasn't listening Also, you are focusing on the wrong subject. You are telling me that non-believers are not listening while I tell you that non-believers don't need to listen and that believers just believe they are listening. It's plain and pretty simple.

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Mr-Keh [2011-10-26 20:04:05 +0000 UTC]

I would call a one sided conversation a one sided conversation.

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Sc1r0n In reply to Mr-Keh [2011-10-26 20:16:20 +0000 UTC]

You are so absolute

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