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In the end I was too lazy to finish the picture... My pencil drawings are always kind of sketchy, that's why I'm always having trouble colouring them digitally... Maybe I'll even try to just colour it traditionally instead of using my lame computer >w<Anyway, a little picture belonging to DGM's nonsensical but funny "Zombie Arc". Of course in Ivory Tales (which means girl!Allen) style! *lol*
Chibi!Kanda (dressed up in English fashion thanks to Ellen) needs some help it seems ;3
(The thing she is carrying around is just a random package *lol*)
D.Gray-Man belongs to Katsura Hoshino
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Yes, I understand where that confusion might come from, hehe.
Especially if you're not used to seeing it or don't expect to see it.
Happy to remind you of gender-bending though ;3
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....yep....never expected to see people gender-bending D.Gray-Man....then suddenly I was thinking of Akito/Agito from Air Gear...and how Akito[right?] was female looking and stuff...and he kissed Ikki...
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It's not surprising in DGM though. Or maybe I just say that because I'm used to it? I'm rarely surprised anymore *lol*
I don't know Air Gear, so I can't really say anything about that. But the names sound familiar >w< Maybe I've seen it somewhere before.
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This is so adorable! Chibi-Kanda clinging to Ellen's skirt!
I would love to see a picture of Emily doing the same thing as a little girl (like father like daughter).
I also like the shoes she is wearing, though they are not very practical for fighting.
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Hihi, thank you!
You mean Emily clinging to Ellen's skirt (or to her father?)
The shoes on this picture probably aren't meant for fighting. I doubt Ellen would turn to wear skirts as her uniform - they are just far too unpractical and short skirts are too embarrassing for her X3
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I think with Ellen.
There are not pictures with just Ellen and Emily together.
I read the latest chapter in Ivory tales: I've reached the conclusion that Ellen is not a very good person. She is not a bad person, but she is just not a good person. But at least she recognizes the bad parts in her, such as when she acknowledges the hint of Kanda's family's potential wealth interests her more than his suffering.
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True. Emily is just "Kanda's girl" at least in my head. I should draw mother and daughter together *lol*
It's hard to say if Ellen's a really good person. She tries to save everybody even though it means endangering herself, but maybe she just acts out of guilt (she cannot let anybody die, she would not be able to live with it). But she is also very afraid, which just strenghtens her character flaws. She likes Kanda but is too afraid to take responsiblity for anything she did (same with her child: it would be best if it disappeared, because then there would be no evidence of her failure to be a good daughter left)
When Kanda, with his love declaration and semi proposal, forced her to make a decision (to say yes or to refuse) she just panicked... While as an exorcist she matured greatly, she is still a dependant child who wants her mother to make all decisions for her. Well, she just isn't ready yet to take responsibility, while Kanda is. But Ellen's only 15... One cannot expect a 15-year-old to make all the right decisions especially if they are this important. Ellen needs time to think and I guess Kanda cannot really understand why she would hesitate now.
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Emily should spend some time with her mother. It would be bad for a child to grow up only with one parent, believing her mother was not intersted in her.
But I suppose Emily will be Kanda's little princess.
I really look forward to seeing Kanda in "Papa Mode" with a "Papa Antenna" (like Cyril).
Yes, it's sometimes hard to remember just how young Ellen and some of the other exorcists are.
Ellen might have matured a lot on the battlefield, but in other ways, she is still a young girl... Sometimes, her attitude really bothers me...
It seems that Ellen does good things for bad reasons. She just doesn't want to feel guilty anymore and she does her good deeds to feel better about herself. Which is perfectly rational and human and logical considering her past: she grew up ashamed of her appearance, she brought back Mana from the dead and was cursed. She feels she has to make up for that. Even worse, she became pregnant out of wedlock. I suppose she feels the need to punish herself.
While Ellen still maintains a few child-like characteristics (such as her inability to face her mistake), Kanda might not be able to sympathize with that. He gave up her childhood a long time ago, but for Ellen, she only left her home a few months ago. She isn't used to having to make decisions or facing their consequences yet.
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I don't think that Ellen will neglect Emily, it's just that I neglect depicting Ellen-Emily interaction because of Kanda-Emily interaction.
Hehe, yes the Papa Mode Γ la Kanda will surely be hilarious *lol*
Well, it's this upper class attitude that stands between Kanda and Ellen, it is frustrating, also to write it all the time, because I sometimes think "Ellen, stop being so stupid!" (even though it's my fault because I want to focus on this tension...)
Ellen and Kanda should really talk things through, Ellen should't make all the important decisions all n her own because they concern Kanda as well. Ellen however seems to think that this is her own problem that she cannot solve with his help because he, as someone not belonging to the English upper class, would not understand her problems. And even if he did he would probably just tell her to forget all the ideals and rules that she has lived by for 15 years. Something which Ellen just can't do... Again, she's just the poor, tragic heroine who now has to suffer for foolishly giving in to temptation
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I am always frustrated by English society in the 19th century. It was very unfair towards women and treated them as objects. however, even if they were treated as mental invalids in the law, they were held totally accountable for any "indiscretions" that happened (such as illegitimate children).
Ellen, is some regards, woudl be right to consider her illegitimate child her own concern. Society would hold her more accountable, because she gave into temptation, she was not forced to sleep with Kanda. However, Kanda would think differently. He thinks this is something they both had to do together.
Though, if Ellen wanted to hold more control over her life, legally, she would be better off not marrying Kanda. I'm not really sure about the time line for legal change, DGM never gives an exact date... If she wanted to protect her property and money, she could always have a legal contract written up...
Darn it Ellen! Hurry up and become a New Woman!
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Well, Ellen has the chance to amend things; her child does not need to be illegitimate because the father is perfectly willing to marry her - but Ellen does not really think about that. What she wants is to marry a man who "fits" her position as future head of a prosperous family - she is right to not deem Kanda suitable to some extend; after all, he will be the one to "get" the family and he is not familiar with the structures and traditions of the Bermonts. But I'm wondering right now; one way or another, the Bermont family would actually end with Ellen because she is the only daughter and will take on a new name. What possibilities are there anyway? Could Charlene adopt either her son-in-law (which would be strange somehow) or could she raise one of Ellen's son as her own so that he could inherit the Bermont name? I don't intend for Kanda to become a Bermont this time... (because I have no clue if that was even legally possible)
Ellen doesn't really want to have control over her own life; she always expected to be married and just be a "wife" - maybe she could be independat like Charlene is, but she's probably on safer grounds when married... Kanda is rather traditional in his views, so he might be slightly controling but I doubt that he would straight-jacket Ellen and use her body and property as he likes simply because he's the husband and she his wife. Socially, she is superior and he knows that. And he also knows that she is able to fend for herself (even though he would probably prefer to do everything he can to protect her and care for her)
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Well, Ellen is going to have to accept that she can no longer have her "perfect fit". Look at the "perfect" man her mother has chosen- a Noah!
Gah! Ellen should get a mind of her own.
I guess I prefer characters who are independent.
I really despise that type of thinking that Ellen has: she believes in the "traditional" role of women. (Though, historically, humans have been hunter-gatherers, and have enjoyed relatively equal status between the sexes. It's only when humans settled down to be agriculturist did men have a large advantage...)
There is nothing "superior" about a person just because they were born in different classes. Ellen supposedly belongs to a far higher class, but look at the mistakes she has made. How can she pretend to be better when she has done many awful things?!
Legally, as Ellen's husband, Kanda could use her body and money as he likes. It was not legally possible to rape a wife, because it was written into their vows that the wife would be available whenever the husband wanted her. It really was an abysmal state for women.
Kanda might treat her well, but he would still have that power over her.
I'm not really sure how title inheritance law is regulated. I don't think women can get titles (which is what her family has, right? Charlene is called "lady" and her father would have been called "sir). I've never heard of a daughter inheriting a title. Land and wealth can be distributed to women, if explicitly stated in legal contracts. The title woudl have to go to the nearest male heir... Now, I'm not sure if Charlene could pass the title to a grandson, because he would have the name other than Bermont, not matter who Ellen married... I'm not sure if names can be combined at this point, to create a name like "Bermont-Kanda"...
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*lol* Well, at least from her mother's perspective Tyki seems to be a good match, but of course, Charlene's judgment cannot be trusted when she is captivated by Tyki's good looks (which means that Kanda actually has a chance to impress her *lol*).
Of course, Ellen believes in the norms that society established. Why should she want to be different than most women? Her main concerns are finding a good match, caring for her husband (no matter how stupid he is) and give birth to children. Ellen must have come across examples of other women, but I think that she has little regard for them...
I guess Kanda would not make us of his power as her husband... More than a married couple they are fellow exorcists and friends; he likes her too much to behave badly... And he needs to prove that he was the best choice for her.
Well, the Bermonts are nobility, but I guess the daughter of a Lord and Lady might also be referred to as lady. I'm not sure though. Maybe Ellen would lose her claim on the title if she married someone below her status? And Kanda might be raised in status if he married her. I have no clue. Most of the things I know I know from being a English literature student... Maybe I need to do some research before I write the next chapters... *frowns*
Well, Charlene could "adopt" her grandson... In my head I always think of Robert as a Bermont, while Emily clearly is a Kanda. Not sure about Lisa XD I don't think that Emily could be the head of the Bermont family...
Hm, I think combining names is rather recent. I am not sure though.
Well, maybe Charlene isn't all that concerned about the Bermont family being continued because there are other people carrying the name and she is actually a Walker woman... I guess she only cares about the Bermont name because of her husband... Ellen's father was the head of the family, maybe that "function" should just have gone to a male relative (if there is one *lol* I didn't even think about other relatives except Ellen's aunt and Mana)
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Well, Ellen has an aunt that is unmarried, so maybe that aunt could help Charlene also see the benefits of Kanda (besides being handsome, he would have no real financial ability to make Ellen leave England, and her family).
I understand that Ellen would not have been introduced to progressive women by her mother. But her time outside of her mother's sphere should surely expose her to more ways to living and thinking. And she befriends Linali, who wears a very short skirt (and should be progressive) and Ellen stops thinking badly of Linali for it.
Since Ellen has been raised to be only a wife and mother. But she has had to adapt to the idea of being a soldier, which is not something she grew up thinking about. But she has become one.
But Ellen has to know, that finding a man who will accept her deformities would be nearly impossible in high society. Especially when you consider that women could only marry men of their station or above. So Ellen is living with the reality of a smaller pool of eligible men to marry. While on the other hand, men can marry women of the same or lower, which is a larger number.
I suppose Kanda would have been effected by his time fighting alongside Ellen and would see her as his equal. They would have saved the others life a few times. Kanda would be unable to presume he had the right to force his will on her. At least, I hope.
I think I read a story recently that referred to the daughter of a lord as "lady". But she would only hold that title after marriage if she married another lord.
I've never heard of a woman being the head of a family, other than through marriage and widowhood. If a son is very young, than the mother would be able to rule the home. As well, the English aristocracy sent all of their sons to boarding schools at a very young age (around seven or eight years of age, I think). A lot of societies would think that really brutal towards a child.
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hehe, yes. I already drew a stupid little picture of Ellen's aunt trying to get Charlene on more friendly terms with her son-in-law X3 You're right, he really can't "steal" Ellen, they would both be required to live in a house belonging to Ellen's family.
Linali did call Ellen slightly old fashioned (if I recall correctly) for her way of thinking. This is certainly due to the fact that Linali has been require to be independent because she was separated from Komui for some years and is required to fight. And of course, the whole order is slightly more keen on modernizing than their involvement with the Vatican might allow. But there aren't many female role models Ellen can have; there are Cloud Nine, Linali and Miranda who might help her become more open. Ellen doesn't really talk to Linali about her worries. I think that Rabi, despite being male, probably has the biggest chance of influencing her because she trusted him enough to talk to him... And he might promote the life-style of more modern females. Even though Kanda supports traditional values... I guess it's really difficult to form new opinions in their environment...
But being a soldier should really change Ellen's thoughts about herself to some extend; but I guess she makes a clear cut between her duty as an exorcist and her "duty" as a woman.
I think that Ellen knows that it's problematic to find a suitable husband based on her looks alone, but she she has a lot of other talents, her mother made sure of that (and she has the family name and fortune to back her up). I'm sure that Charlene would have found a suitable match that Ellen would also have approved of - her mother doesn't have bad tastes and she cares about her daughter enough to chose a man who seems to be a gentleman. True, Tyki is not the best choice, but he probably behaved very well when he met Charlene...
I do think that Kanda sees Ellen as an equal. He wants her to be happy so he would do anything to achieve this goal. He might be strict when he thinks she is foolishly endangering herself, but it's not as if he could prohibit her being an exorcist - but he could at least try.
I only know that the question of how to raise a boy was a very central worry of English novels... But I don't think that Kanda would allow his son to be sent away, he would probably educate him as best as he could, maybe relying on tutors for the things he cannot do (if they are still connected to the order then there are many able people to help educate children, Emilia or Rabi for example).
I just wonder; Kanda probably has no legal claim on the Bermont family's title by marrying Ellen; just whatever fortune she received from her parents, right? Because I always assumed that he would become a potential head of family by marrying Ellen, which doesn't seem to be right after all. *lol*
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I would like to see that picture of Ellen's aunt. I think it was mentioned that her aunt never married, right? I've read an article about unmarried upper class women in the 19th century: they lived longer and tended to be more educated. And it was from the upper classes that the push for equality came from.
Well, they would probably have to rely on her family's money to survive. Kanda, as a traditional man, woudl not like that. To the 19th century, it was the man's job to be the bread winner. Though, Kanda has some transitional and egalitarian views on marriage. So, it might be a case of Kanda calling himself "traditional", while his actions reflect more transitional-egalitarian. His actions and beliefs (that he should not control Ellen, that she is her own person, and that they are partners and equals.
There was a book published about 20 years ago in North America called "the Second Shift" that detailed the work lived of married couples. It was actually the men who said they were "traditional" and said they believed that women woudl do all of the house work, did more house work than the men who claimed to believe in "egalitarian" distribution of house labor. So the men who claimed to be egalitarian, were just really giving lip service to the ideal.
I hope Ellen develops that independent streak that Linali has. Ellen's belief that her role should be a wife/mother is very limiting and requires that she put herself in a very submissive position to her husband (and all males). I think the longer she stays at the Order (progressive despite the Vatican wishes) the more outdated
People use the ideologies that fit their surroundings. When Ellen was a child, he had to listen to her mother and obey. And the lifestyle she led didn't allow her to be influenced by any other opinion or even know another way of life (except Mana did allow her some freedom... I keep forgetting about that. I suppose that when Ellen was with Mana, she behaved quiet differently). Charlene would have let Ellen know, any other way of living was not an option for her.
Still, Ellen will change her ideology to fit her environment, and in the Order, it makes sense to be progressive and more modern. People do change their minds and so can Ellen.
I'm just pointing out, the math is against Ellen finding a suitable husband from a limited number of men. Women in the upper class were much more likely to remain unmarried. Such as Ellen's aunt. She might have wanted to be married, but there were no men to choose from.
That is exactly why Ellen should be more suspicious and warry when her mother tries to make decisions for her. Just because someone is from the upper class, is polite and seems suitable, does not make them a good person! I really look forward to Ellen realizing that Charlene wanted her to marry a Noah. It really should lead to Ellen realizing how lucky she is to be with Kanda and have Emily. If Emily had not been conceived, she would have married Tyki!
Have you read the play by Ibsen called βDollhouseβ. It really irked me that the 19th century ideal was an educated husband, educating his wife as if she were a child... I'm really cautious about how I view Kanda and Ellen's relationship. Sure, he does have more field experience and so he has valuable information. He is a good fighter and taught Ellen a lot. But I don't like the idea that one person could have so much control over another persons life.
Well, the Japanese had a much different idea how to raise a son than the English would have. Yeah, Kanda would not allow his son to be raised at some far off institution. As well, Kanda would have felt that Robert would be safer near his family. There are many brilliant scientists at the Order, as well as Emilia and Rabi. There would be no shortage on people capable of educating children. Though, Ellen woudl be equipped to teach some subjects. That was one reason why there were very few girl-schools. Girls learned what they needed from their mothers. Though, Ellen will hopefully choose to have all of her children educated property. By the 1880s, women were being accepted into universities in England.
I don't think Kanda could become head of an English aristocratic family. He would act as head of the household (maybe), attend formal functions, but not hold the title. I am really curious: if there are not immediate heirs, can they use a grandson?
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I scanned the picture, I'll upload it later (I just uploaded the Emily holding on to Ellen's skirt picture *lol*).
Truth to be told I honestly do not remember, but I think she is not married, or maybe she was married. She is quite independant and travels a lot, so I think that she isn't married. Well, it did seem like a good option to remain unmarried, at least for those women who could afford it. Ellen surely could, but I guess Charlene wants her to be taken care of...
Hm. I think Kanda would probably want to earn money as well, be it as an important person within the Black Order (I was thinking that he might force Komui to give him an adequate payment because he has to provide for his wife and child) or as something else (an ambassador for example)
Of course, Ellen was different when she was with Mana, but I guess that the personality she developed while with him was silenced by his death. She did recover it when she was assumed to be a boy, but now she is again completely within her role as the young daughter of an upper class family. I guess she will change when she realizes that she too is old enough to accept responsibility. There is no sense in her hiding forever behind her mother and her views just because it's more comfortable than being responsible for one's own life and making one's own decisions. I guess that her friends will teach her if only Ellen will talk to them.
I haven't read Dollhouse, it's actually the first time I hear about it! But I have heard about the patronising tendencies that men have. There was that idea that women were merely incomplete men after all... And that their mental capacities are below that of a man, therefore the superior must teach and guide the inferior because they don't know better (that's somehow the same as the excuse used in colonial times...). Well, even if Kanda does know more than Ellen does, I think that this does not really make him want to treat Ellen as an inexperienced child. He did get annoyed when she behaved like a little girl when they trained, accordingly I think that he wants her to be mature... But he's not the one that can teach her how to be a grown up woman *lol*
Kanda might feel uncomfortable when acting as head of the family (and he probably doesn't have to as long as Charlene is alive)... Well, I think that a grandson would be possible to use as head of family, but I am not sure about laws concerning it. I just pretend that it works... X3
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I just saw the picture! It really is adorable! Ellen looks like she is getting ready to go out for a meeting. I'm glad to see that Emily is attached to her mother and that Ellen does give her daughter attention. I had worried that Ellen woudl be distant and that only Kanda would give Emily attention and affection.
It seems that Ellen woudl have been better off without a husband. They do have money, so getting a wealthy husband is not of that much important. Ellen is already at a disadvantage (because of her arm, and there are plenty of other educated upper class daughetrs to compete with for a limited number of men). And the fact that a husband might not treat her very well. Added to the fact Ellen probably cannot continue her family line, getting married would not be a good idea. Unless Charlene assumed that Ellen isn't smart enough to take care of herself (and Charlene just might think that).
I'd like to have Kanda as an ambassador. It is a very respectable position, and Charlene could brag about it. It would also allow Kanda to legitimately move in upper class circles, and not just because he married into wealth.
I do like Ellen more when she acts a bit like a boy (like she would have with Mana). She is much more tolerable than when she acts like the daughter of the upper class. Ellen really does need to take more responsibility with her life, and not just accepting that she is having a child. There are different kinds of responsibility she needs to take up. She needs to examine the views and ideologies she has and wonder if they really are her own.
It does not help that during 19th century, the βscienceβ they had was not really βscienceβ. A lot of times, it was just white men attempting to β
Ellen is better off looking towards an example like Cloud Nine or Linali, both women who seem to be very sure in themselves and act very mature.
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Hihi, no, I can assure you that Ellen will take good care of her children. She might not be obsessive as Kanda is, but she is equipped with a healty dose of motherly affection ;3
Maybe Ellen would have been better off without a husband, but I think she herself wants one (probably because she had been taught that way, and she might also have romantic ideas about marriage that go beyond the duties). Charlene might think that Ellen needs to be taken care of and that she cannot manage to live like a woman of her position is required to because of her Innocence.
I'm sure Charlene would like to brag about her influential son-in-law *amused* Kanda once proved that he's able to behave in the company of upper class people, so he might do it again once he's married to Ellen (and is requested to be sociable?) Maybe once things have settled down she can also feel proud about her daughter being a member of the Black Order.
Ellen just needs to find out what kind of person she wants to be; she clearly enjoyed staying with Mana, but that somehow disappeared and now she also has to question her beloved uncle because of his connection to the Ark... Maybe she really doesn't feel up to question anything else beside that (like whether her behaviour towards Kanda is justified or whether her upbringing was as good as she thought)
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I'm looking forward to Kanda being very protective towards his little family. He will become an even bigger terror in the Black Order!
Well, not only was she raised to want a husband (through her mother and novels) I think Ellen would also want the acceptance that comes with a husband and a great social circle to move around in. Ellen has only grown up with her mother, uncle and aunt, which is very small. If she married, she would have to attended social gatherings and her family would grow larger. I think for Ellen, who has led a secluded life, would like the benefits. Maybe she would like children who would accept her physical appearance as well.
That would be hilarious- Charlene who has scorned Kanda for marrying her daughter, eventually becoming proud of him.
Though, I don't think Kanda would like to go to social events, he would do it to make his wife happy. His first priority would always be his family and those woudl be the people he would like to be around.
I do hope that Ellen gets around to asking big questions about herself. She has to realize, that in the end, she has to be happy with herself. Kanda will contribute to that happiness. She also needs to get over the idea of punishing herself- Kanda isn't punishing himself over conceiving a child.
I hope she does turn out to be a confident, independent and self assured person.
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X3 I could imagine Kanda being even worse, only because he's a father now people should better not underestimate his temper *lol*
Well, Ellen's social circle was not that small, if she also met her other relatives (like grandparents, other uncles and aunts or cousins) but apart from her family she really did not move around in society... I guess most of all Ellen just wants to be loved and love in return... And Kanda wants to fulfill that wish if she just lets him.
Yes, I cannot imagine Kanda to suddenly become all sociable with people he cannot stand, but he will behave to earn the favour of both his wife and mother-in-law... But he would surely prefer to just stay at home with is family...
I guess Ellen will change as soon as she realizes that she is truly hurting other people with the way she behaves and maybe the fact that she would have almost married Tyki can also make her think about the society she wants to live in... It will not be easy, but growing up never is... ;3 (sounds extremely cheesy)
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I would love to read about an over protective Kanda. While Kanda would not be as crazy as Komui, he would be just as vigilant against those trying to corrupt his sweet, pure Emily.
The problem is, Ellen believes being loved and accepted has to come from the society her mother is from and hinges on living up to those standards. She can't live up to them anymore (and they were not fair standards eight). She needs to create her own circle of friends, like her exorcists comrades, and look to them.
Kanda will always dislike high society, it almost took his wife away from him. He would rather not waste his time of bothersome things, and would rather spend time training or being with his family. He would go to events, if only to keep the peace with his in-laws. It woudl be funny is Ellen also came to hate traveling in upper class circles as well.
Ellen is very young to have to deal with these things, but that is life. When she accepts Kanda and the faults of the upper class and what it almost did to her own life, she will hopefully be a better and stronger person for it.
I think your ff.net bio mentioned it, but there was a one shot for Emily being written. Will it be finished soon?
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Hehe, yes, I wonder what type of men he would allow to interact with his daughter. He even might adopt some of Komui's bad habits (without the crying and overall silliness of course... *lol*) to make sure that Emily is too difficult to get - she is quite beautiful after all, Kanda might think that she is endangered!
Well, Ellen doesn't really have another choice than trying to conform with her "native" society. If her mother would criticize it or if Mana did, then she might have ambivalent thoughts about it. But right now any doubts she has about the upper class society will probably be regarded by herself as just being silly and uncalled for. As soon as she quits being an exorcist she will return to that society, therefore she must try to approve of it and adhere to it.
But apparently the time she spends in the order is far longer than she initially expected and she builds up a new life as an exorcist - with a circle of friends, as you said. She just hasn't really adapted to them yet, they are still foreign to some extend (we don't really know how exactly Ellen regards her friends: does she think she is superior to them or is she just reluctant to confide in them because she is of a different social sphere?)
Well, I think Ellen will first probably want to attend social gatherings and the like, just to keep up appearances, but in the end she doesn't really have to as long as her mother deals with everything. They might as well withdraw to one of the manors and live there, only occasionally inviting other people (apart from their real friends).
Yes, you're right. I started writing something with Emily in it, but stopped because I felt that I will include it in the actual story. Then I've also started something that is set some years in the future (when Emily is about 15) but it is highly influenced by the books "The secret Garden" and "Little Princess" and therefore has a slightly different setting than what I think it should have if it's a continuation of Ivory Tales (they're living in India and circumstances force Emily to move to England where her grandmother takes care of her and her siblings)
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Well, Kanda would create a long list of qualifications that a suitor would have to meet to court either of his daughters. It would be a very long list that virtually no man would be able to fit. Maybe the man would have to best Kanda in a fight? Which is not likely to happen... Maybe Kanda would occasionally talk to his daughters about becoming nuns...
It is hard to tell why Ellen is not confiding in her friends- is it because of the social gap? It might be because they have already thought her notions of class are silly, so Ellen might feel they would not sympathize with her, or understand her view point. It might also be because this is her first time having friends. Ellen might have had pen pals, but writing a letter can be very formal, and I doubt Ellen would have confided her doubts and fears on paper.
I look forward to Ellen fully adapting to the Order women.
Ellen would make a large distinction between people she was friendly to because of social obligations and real friends. Real friends, to Ellen, woudl be from the Order. People she has suffered with and fought with and knows she can trust.
I hope nothing bad has happened to Ellen and Kanda to have them send their children to England?!
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I was already thinking about possible partners out of the male cast (even though they are all quite a bit older) and I am not sure if any of them would fit Kanda's "list" *lol* But I think that Ellen will stop Kanda from being all too unreasonable. Of course it would be best to send them to a convent if he fears for their virginity, but I don't think that Ellen would allow that X3
Ellen does not think that her friends would understand her position, she is also a bit ashamed to talk to them about certain private matters. She does not want them to disapprove of her and she thinks they will (Rabi already opposed her views). Maybe she also has a little hard to kill superiority complex? Or maybe she is just too shy to talk to them...
Well, Ellen and Kanda are still working as exorcists from time to time while living in India - and their children know nothing of it (an actual sequel to Ivory Tales would probably not base itself on their ignorance of their parents' real profession). It's just that I had Ellen not returning to India after she took Lisa to England (because of poor health) and when Kanda has to go to war they leave England for good. The starting point of the story is not really a happy one, that's for sure... But yeah, that's not how I would really continue Ivory Tales, I don't want anything to happen to Kanda and Ellen!
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I don't think Kanda would approve of any man he did now know incredibly well, but he would certainly not allow a cradle-robber to snatch Emily or Lisa away.
Well, Ellen would probably not be comfortable in confiding in people who are not her family. I really hate her superiority complex... I would prefer that Ellen was just shy and did not know how to express her feelings properly.
Wouldn't Emily be aware of what her parents do? After all, she is also compatible with Innocence and would have had extensive training.
So, does Ellen or Lisa have bad health? If it was Ellen, I can understand that she would take her youngest with her (because Lisa would be the one out of all of the children who needed to be with her the most. Or because Lisa is ill, and the Kandas don't want to relocate all of the family and Ellen woudl be better at taking care of Lisa?
If they are exorcist, why would Kanda have to go to war? I also assume that because of the Earl, WW1 would not take place (though different wars might start up).
I really hope nothing bad happen to Kanda and Ellen.
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*lol* Kanda as an incredible obstacle for every boy in love with one of the Kanda girls. I guess the same applies to Linali and potential lovers. Kanda and Komui can be scary I guess *amused*
I think it's hard to let go of things you have been accustomed for, such as the superiority complex she has (well, she IS nobility after all, there aren't many people who could be superior to her, especially not those who are not of European descent).
But to some extend she is probably also shy and consider certain things to be improper to talk about.
Yes, actually Emily should be aware of it, but in the fanfiction I started writing I just changed that to focus on something else (Emily exploring the hidden past of family while she also has to adapt to life with her grandmother in England).
It's Lisa; at the beginning of the story she is merely a baby and Ellen thinks it best to take her to her mother in London, also because she won't be able to look after her because of her "work". And the war Kanda has to engage in is actually connected to him being an exorcist, only that Emily doesn't know.
Well, I think that the world wars will probably take place anyway because the Earl seems to want to engage the world in various wars (as wars mean tragedy I guess). I'm not really sure if the Earl is still around by the time Emily is old enough to understand what's going on... But there must be something, even if it's just Innocence.
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Well, any boy that wants to date the Kanda girls had better be properly prepared! Maybe the fact that the boy will be wiling to risk life and limb for a Kanda girl could earn some respect from Kanda... but I doubt it.
Kanda would kill any man who got one of his daughters pregnant before marriage (Kanda would be a bit of a hypocrite that way... but Kanda knows that he is a good guy! So it was alright! Kanda can't trust any boy that went behind his back to be with one of his daughters).
I would like to read about Emily trying to find out her family's hidden past.
It might be a shock to find her prim and proper parents had a shot-gun wedding!
And that her parents belong to an organization trying to save the world.
So Lisa is going to live with Charlene for awhile? But what about Robert?
It has already be stated that the Earl and Cyril have started a war. They would benefit by having large numbers of people killed and would try and start more conflicts. But a lot of countries are a part of the New world Alliance, so I would have thought they woudl be able to stop some wars...
Even if the Earl is not there, there are still Noah, Akuma and Innocence causing strange phenomena.
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I doubt anyone would be foolish enough to challenge Kanda or even get too intimate with one of the girl without Kanda (or at least Ellen's) knowledge. The best way to gain the parents favor would probably be to first get to know Ellen, because she's not as scary as Kanda *lol*
Lisa and Robert both left for England before Emily did and I guess neither of them has a problem with adapting to the new lifestyle... Emily might because she is used to something else... I guess finding out about her parents might not be that easy with Charlene watching Emily's every step... But if she is equipped with enough curiosity and determination then she'll find out anyway.
It's also a question of how many high positions are filled with people the Earl works with. Sometimes wars cannot be avoided due to supposed benefits and interests... There was enough tension in Europe to start a war, and if the Earl pushes this a bit more I guess that there's no stopping it...
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It would be easier (less frightening, and less dangerous) to approach Ellen rather than Kanda. Then Ellen, if the boy meets her expectations, can introduce the suitor to Kanda. But Kanda would probably drive his daughters insane (because he would always want to chaperon his girls when they are on dates). It is interesting, but by the late 19th century, women of the upper class were allowed to attend university, so Emily and Lisa would. Kanda would want to relocate the whole family so the girls would not live in a dorm room.
Emily would be old enough to remember their old life, but small children can have trouble adapting. Charlene would certainly keep a close eye on her granddaughter, not wanting Emily to have the same fate as Ellen (though Ellen turned out well).
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Yes, Kanda would probably try to give his children good chanced in society, sending them to university to receive education seems like a better idea than trouble himself with marriage politics (he'd probably prefer them not to marry anyone, well, maybe Robert but not Emily and Lisa, even though that's a bit selfish *lol*)
Charlene certainly does not want to lose her granddaughter to some stupid war she has nothing to do with. It would be best for Emily not to know anything about Exorcists and Innocence even if that means not knowing a big part about her parents' lives. I think Charlene is less concerned about keeping her away from men (so that she won't make the same mistake as Ellen) than about keeping her away from exorcist activities...
Well, following Ivory Tales' story line then Emily would of course know about exorcists because she grew up in the order (depending on how long the war lasts) because I doubt that Kanda would have been fine with giving Emily over to Charlene, even just for the duration of the war (there might as well be a chance that he would never see her again).
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As well, furthering the Kanda girls' education is also a good way to prolong a marriage. Kanda could also encourage the girls to be financially independent and want careers.
With Robert, Kanda would not have to worry about losing his son. With girls, they go off and become apart of another family. They would legally not be under Kanda's protection, but their husbands.
Well, technically, the Earl is everyone's concern, since he would destroy the world. So, Emily does have a connection to the war. Especially if she is one of the few people capable of fighting.
I suppose being involved in a war is more problematic than getting involved with men... with a war, Emily might end up dead.
Do you mean that Kanda might die during the war, or that Charlene might keep Emily away from her parents?
Well, I think Kanda would like to keep his children close. At least the Order had security. And Kanda would not like Charlene filling his children's heads with silly ideas (like Charlene did with Ellen).
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Well, Kanda has to be realistic, right? The girls want to lead their own lives after all, he can't keep them for all eternity! But he might also have a real interst in getting them a good education - it probably doesn't do any harm to have a lot of knowledge that could secure a profession. It'll be about the 1920s when the children are adults (if one sets DGM at the very end of the 19th century...)
If Emily is compatible with Innocence then there's probably no way around it no matter what her parents (or grandmother) think about it. There is no choice when it gets to become an exorcist after all (at least not when the compatibility is discovered - which probably would have been found out very soon, especially as a child born from a mother with parasitic innocence, I'm sure there exists scientific interest in such a case).
Well, both acutally; I think if Charlene had Ellen and Emily near her she would probably try to prevent Kanda from taking them back at the order? At least she would try even though there's no way that the Black Order would allow Ellen to leave their ranks... Before I made some alterations in my plotting I planned to have Charlene try to prevent Kanda from seeing his wife and child (and he'd just climb up the wall to see them anyway *lol*).
But there's also the possibility that Kanda will die, we have no clue how long he'll be able to live with his curse/magic/illusion/I really have no clue what it is. He might just be not able to return one day. Which is also a major reason why Ellen and Kanda have to marry - if she becomes a widow then fine, but if the father of her child died without them being married... ah, that'd be worse... At least both of them seem to reason like this.
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He would not like his daughters to be dependent on husbands, and would prefer that they were educated.
I wish DGM set a clear date and not just the end of the 19th century. Because there are a few important changes in the rights of women in the late 19th century.
If Emily and Lisa are adults in the 1920s, that means they could also be part of the movement for suffrage....
The Order would force Ellen to have Emily tested for compatibility as soon as Emily was born. Kanda would want to stop it from happening (neither Ellen not Kanda would want to know if their baby was an exorcist), but I doubt he could stop Hevlaska or the commanders from finding out...
They would force Ellen to come back. They locked up Linali, so I doubt they have anything against forcing people to fight. Ellen at this point would not want to leave either. She sees it as her responsibility to stop the Earl. Though it might take a few days for Ellen to leave Charlene (her mother would take it as a huge offense if Ellen left to go back to the Order).
I would like to see Kanda breaking into the house to see his family.
It is in Ellen's best interest to get married to Kanda, even though she seems to be stalling. The longer they wait, the higher the chance Kanda might die on a mission. And Ellen does not know that Kanda's life span is much shorter (but would Ellen be relieved by that? That means she would be a respectable widow sooner, and able to remarry someone more "suitable").
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I think Hoshino is not concerned with such things as a woman's role in the 19th century. Her females are all more modern than the times and the setting in Victorian England might require... Personally, I would set it at the end of the Victorian periode now simply because it was a time of great transistions, something which would as well match the "crossroads of time" image, because we are at the very end of the Victorian times and modern times will follow (if the Earl can be defeated taht is). But I think it might as well be set earlier (maybe second half of the 19th century?) because there are some dates here and there and then there's the fact that Edo was renamed Tokyo in 1868... But I think this is irrelevant to the Manga because Japan continues being the Earl's fortress...
I wonder how Ellen and Kanda's children will turn out to be when they are adults, it's not even clear yet how Kanda and Ellen will manage when they are a bit older (because both of them are forced to grow up very quickly) but I think they will manage well and their children might be pretty open-minded and modern. Maybe with the exception of Robert because of his grandmother's influence. And sons are raised differently...
Well, they certainly cannot send a baby to war, but if Emily's compatibility is confirmed so early on, they might want to keep her in the order, giving her special treatment and later on training so as to "nurse" her future exorcist abilities. And with all the talk about first, second and third exorcists, I wonder what a child born of exorcist parents (clearly one being a second exorcists) is considered to be... I wonder if all of Ellen's childen will turn out to be at least somewhat compatible with Innocence even if the rate is too low to actually be an exorcist.
Yes, Kanda breaking into the house does seem like a funny image, maybe I'll be able to squeeze it in somehow - it was planned for a different storyline, but maybe it'll work somehow with what I've planned (*lol* always these change of hearts!)
Actually I have planned for Kanda to tell Ellen about his restricted lifespan as soon as possible (probably already in the next chapter) and he does expect her to be somewhat relieved that she will be rid of him pretty soon. Of course Ellen is not thrilled to hear that nor is she very happy that Kanda even assumed that she would be glad! But of course, it would free Ellen of her marriage with Kanda and she could then marry someone else. It must be bitter for Kanda...
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I like that explanation for why the time should be the end of the 19th century. It would be nice for the Earl to be defeated by 1899. I don't really trust any numbers when can get from things like Edo to Tokyo. The city changed its name during the Meiji Restoration (I think), but that time period never happened. And Japan still is isolated, so Perry never happened... DGM is still an alternate history and so anything we can read into it can't really give us an accurate date.
I remember the anime gave some dates on headstones during the first few episodes (the one with Leo and Jean). But I don't trust the anime to give a correct date.
I expect the girls to be very modern (or I would like them to be...). Robert isn't going to be raised the traditional Englishman's way, where sons are sent off to boarding schools. But I suppose him grandmother will try to ensure he carries the same beliefs. I wonder if the siblings will get along? They seem to be pretty different and with different experiences. Charlene will also try to influence the girls, but maybe they won't be as susceptible (because they really get no benefits from such an old way of thinking, while Robert would have more advantages).
Whether or not the Kanda children were exorcist, I think Kanda would insist imn having them train. Especially so he could have them near.
I really wish we have a clearer idea of what a Second Exorcist was. I think it means they might have been genetically modified to be compatible(?). Who knows what kind of effect it could have on their children.
I'm not sure if people can be somewhat compatible with Innocence. I think exorcists start off wil low numbers, and then can increase their ability to synchronize with it. Kanda said an exorcist was chosen by the Innocence.
I would love to read that! And Ellen would probably think it was very romantic (because of all the romance novels she has read). It sort of reminds me of Romeo and Juliet (my least liked Shakespeare play).
I hope Ellen is furious with Kanda for assuming she would be glad he would be dead soon! Even if it might be logical for Ellen to see a respectful way out of a "distasteful" marriage into one of her mother's choosing, I hope she punches Kanda for implying that!
I would like to think that Ellen is not that pragmatic, and does care for Kanda enough to not want him dead for her convenience.
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Yes, I don't believe the dates the Anime gives us either... And I think unless Hoshino gaves us a clear date or some historic even to go by, we will probably never know *lol* I don't think that Hoshino cares about historical accuracy. As far as I remember Zone does have a year fixed to it though... (Which is helpful for any future Zone fanfiction plans *lol*)
The siblings will probably get along I guess that their parents will see to that. I think. It can probably be difficult to keep children from fighting from time to time. If Charlene doesn't influence Robert all too much then they will probably get along fine when they're adults.
I agree, I think there might be some kind of genetic modification involved with second and third exorcists, but the distinction is not quite clear right now. In both cases some sort of outward influence seems to be present (the Dark Matter for the Third Exorcists and something different for Kanda...
Hm, well not somewhat compatible but at least a predisposition to be able to become a host to Innocence; the matching Innocence cube would of course be needed. But I think this inherited "compatibility" was a major concern for quite some time, so I think there might be something there. Maybe exorcists cannot be produced simply by being related to a compatible person, but a synchronization might be forced (with better results in the case of children like Kanda and Ellen's?). What I don't really understand is whether an Innocence cube choses an exorcist when they get in contact with said person or if it's "fate" and therefore all decided beforehand (and then the Innocence would make itself found by the compatible person).
*lol* You mean the secret meetings that go against the parents wishes? Well, Ellen would certainly find it romantic (even though it might be troublesome if Kanda were found). I haven't even read Romeo and Juliet but I don't really like Shakespeare...
I think that in this respect, Ellen would never want Kanda to die just so that she would not be disgraced (for long)
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Yes, Zone does give a date. I think Hoshino used the Japanese years, which would be by what Emperor was ruling. But I can't remember exactly what date it was.
Ah, you have Zone fanfiction plans? I wish there were more stories about Robin (and Robin and Kanda)...
I don't think Ellen and Kanda would tolerate their children misbehaving and not getting along. I'm not sure how parents would ensure that siblings liked one another. Children will always bicker, but not about serious things.
I really want to know what a Second Exorcist is, but we will not know until Hoshino returns.
I just thought that Innocence comes in contact with a human and then chooses that humans.
But when you look at it statistically, what are the chances of anyone finding out they are Innocence compatible by the Order and finding a matching Innocence? It is negligible. So, I just thought Innocence chose from the humans around it. But it is also possible that the Innocence "calls" people to it.
Didn't Kanda say that a child between exorcists would not necessarily be compatible? Ellen is going to be mad with Kanda...
I've read a few Shakespeare plays. I really liked Cesare and Macbeth.
But I really adore the plays by Oscar Wilde.
When Kanda reveals his secret I hope that Ellen will not immediately think of how beneficial Kanda's early death will be to her! I hope Ellen is not that cold and indifferent to Kanda.
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I couldn't remember it either, it was in the scanlation though - the 30th year of the Meiji period (which would be 1898)
I am really, really, really keen on writing Zone fanfiction, but I would of course just have to do some sort of continuation of the pilot chapter. And well, Kanda needs to appear though and I am not sure of Robin's sex (her body should be male, but her soul is female and Hoshino said that the character Allen is based on is female...). I would just have Robin and Kanda team up and make them look for Robin's master together... Or something like that *lol*
Well, maybe Innocence is just a symbiotic organism; if somebody desires the strenght to achieve something, Innocence might grant this power in exchange for a host. But there are also people who do certainly not wish to have Innocence (like Suman or Allen who is said to have been born with it). Ah, I don't really know. It is true that compatibility in general but without a specific Innocence piece doesn't really make much sense... And I doubt it's possible to share Innocence, so I am not sure how much sense it makes for Emily to be compatible. But she had her mother's Innocence circulating through her body... I just base my assumption that she'll be compatible on that. X3
Of course, Kanda didn't know it better because there was no previous case of a compatible child from exorcist parents...
We haven't read that many classics in our English lessons (as far as plays were concerned we only read "As you like it", "Our Town", and "Importance of being Earnest") our teacher made us read contemporary stuff and short stories from the English colonies... And after one semester of King Lear I've had enough of Shakespeare for a while *lol*
I think that Ellen will try to stop Kanda from dying early later on. And if she really wants to be rid of him she could request him to issue a divorce. She certainly does not want him to die for her sake...
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I like that year. It's very late in the century.
I actually suspect that Robin might be French and not English. On one of the first pages, Robin has a map, and she starts in France. The name"Robin" is also creole, a type of french.
Yes, it is hard to determine Robin's gender. It is also very confusing...
maybe it could be a story about Robin trying to get her 'real' body back?
So, maybe Innocence latches onto convenient people? It certainly has been detrimental to Allen's life. He had a very abusive childhood because of it. I hope Hoshino gives us more of his back story. That kind of childhood is bound to make Allen a little crazy or off balanced.
My education was filled with Shakespeare. Starting in grade 9, we have to read on of his plays a year,. In High school, we also have to read Socrates. But otehr than that, the novels are 20th century British and American.
I never had to read kind Lear, except for an exert on an AP exam.
I'm glad that Ellen will take some initiative to help Kanda extend his life. Will she tell him she is trying, or will she surprise him (because Kanda would be under the assumption Ellen did not really care). I think if Ellen really did not like Kanda, she would divorce him. I have a hard time understanding the social ramifications for divorce in the late 19th century... Wilde makes it sound common and alright. It could be for the upper class, divorce was alright and not a social death sentence.
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I supposed that she was French, exactly because of the map. But I must confess that I do not know that much about French society during the Fin-de-Siècle... But I doubt that French society will play a major role. They were in Osaka in the beginning, so I guess that Robin would meet Kanda in Japan.
I also thought about Robin trying to restore her real body, if Akuma evolve she could evolve as well, maybe turning back into a human once she's completed her evolution? I haven't really thought about it yet. I just know that I want to have Robin (preferrably female) and Kanda, and them together if possible. *lol* But that's not really enough to start writing a fanfiction...
I also want to have more of Allen's background... I would also like to see how the brat we saw recently turned into this Mana dependant small child we saw at the very beginning. It seems like quite a big difference and I wonder why this happened? Has Allen adopted the ways of Mana or his brother while spending time with them, forgetting his more rebellious side?
I think most schools in English speaking countries put Shakespeare on their programmes... As English was a second language for us (like French. And also Italian in my case) we didn't read all that much in class, maybe a book each term... We read more in German lessons, but also those stupid classics which I didn't really like.
I just found Shakespeare's plays to be tedious to work with when you're not on a level to understand the language as well as one should to really enjoy it. Maybe I would like it today, but I find it funny that almost every English speaking student has read Romeo and Juliet *lol* (Probably like almost every German student has read Faust or Die Verwandlung)
I doubt that Ellen knows how to help Kanda with his life-span. She'll probably tell him that she will try to do whatever she can. Kanda might not like to be protected by his wife, but he could be surprised that she really cares about him enough to try.
Could women actually divorce their men? I imagine that men would find it easier to get rid of a wife. If Ellen could divorce Kanda as soon as the child is born, her mother would probably try to make her do it. But I doubt Ellen would accept this... I guess that by a certain time it was easier to get a divorce without being looked down upon by the society... But I don't know when it was. I guess it's about time I got some books from the library X3
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I don't know much about France either... I suppose it would have been similar to England?
I wonder what part of Japan Kanda would be from? I was very surprised when the exorcists went to Japan, and Kanda's past wasn't hinted at. I thought it woudl be appropriate if Kanda was from Japan. But then again, in the character book, Kanda's nationality has a question mark next to it.
I prefer Robin as a girl. I know Hoshino changed Robin to a boy for DGM to make it more popular, but I really wish there were more shonen manga with female main characters. I wish Hoshino had kept the main character a girl.
I think that Allen is still the same little brat, but as Cross said, is just wearing the mask of Mana. Allen is just acting good and sweet for the advantages it brings him. When Allen does interact with Kanda, his rebellious and rude side does come out. Cross might have said that Allen going to the order make her more cheeky, but it seems more likely that Allen has always been that way and is just now showing it.
We tend to put a lot of emphasis on Shakespeare and treat him like he is the only playwright that will ever matter. I'm okay with reading it, but most people I know really hated having to read it.
Romeo and Juliet is probably the one play everyone in North America has read. It is Shakespeare's most famous play. It's the one I really hate reading. Juliet would have been 12-13 years old. Romeo was about 16. It's just really creepy...
I had to read Faust and Die Verwandlung! It was for my German grammar and literature class. We also had to read Nathan der Weise and a lot of other works by Goethe.
Well, the Order has a very large library. I have no doubts that it would have some magical books. Ellen could also ask Cross for more information, if she really wanted to break the curse on Kanda. At some point, Ellen will not be allowed to fight, so she would have a few months off where she would not be able to train.
Well, the first people able to divorce would have been the wealthy. It woudl have been very expensive to divorce. And it was easier for a man to divorce a wife. All he had to prove was infidelity. A woman had to prove rape, sodomy, incest, bestiality, cruelty... it was a very long list and biased in a man's favor. But divorce laws changed near the end of the 19th century. But the laws really loosened up in the mid 20th century.
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I have also assumed that we would get a glimpse of Kanda's past when they were in Japan (but the fact that we didn't made me survive through the insecurity about whether he was alive or death after the fight with Skinn).
I also want Robin to be a girl... And Allen as well, but female protagonists in shonen series don't really seel well and are highly unusual (I actually can't think of a shonen series with a female main protagonist). But nothing much would have changed about Allen. Well, I can still hope that Hoshino continues giving Allen a feminine air.
It's kind of sad that only Kanda gets to see Allen's bad side (but I guess Kanda could probably appreciate it more than the sweet, soft-hearted and always nice and polite Allen, because that's something Kanda doesn't seem willing to relate to)
Romeo and Juliet is just a cheesy tragic romantic love story... *lol* They really were young, I found it strange as well...
And well, yes, German classics *lol* Kind of predictable... Like Romeo and Juliet but without the impact on teenagers and popular culture X3
The problem with Kanda is that we don't really know yet what his curse is and I am feeling a bit uneasy about making this up - I already take great liberties with his past, so I feel that I need to wait a bit until I get more information. But if it's really a magical curse then she might find ways to undo it. Especially when she has to take a break from saving the world and has nothing better to do than switching to saving Kanda instead.
I heard about all those things that a woman had to prove, it really seemed quite impossible. And I also heard in the seminar I have on the BrontΓ«s that even when the laws changed a bit in the mid 19th century, there were only very few women who divorced their men.
Well, Ellen might have a chance to divorce Kanda, but I doubt she would want to do it.
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Well, the fight with Skin was heart stopping. I felt that Hoshino would not kill off a popular character and before his mysterious past was revealed, but I always have a bit of doubt...
Hm, I think "Soul Eater" has a female main character. But I find a lot of female characters are only examples of stereotypes and figures that need to be saved... it really does bother me.
Well, Lavi has seen Allen's Dark Side while they were gambling. But Allen is only ever rude with Kanda. I like that Allen only ever shows Kanda that side of him. Allen would never dream of being rude to Linali or Lavi like that. I think it speaks of a type of familiarity or understanding. And Kanda would never call Allen on his rude behavior or point it out to others.
That rude Allen is someone Kanda can respect and fight with.
Romeo and Juliet is really trashy... Well, the age of consent was much younger during the stories time frame.
I like German classics. I really liked reading Erlkoenig.
I think Ellen might be proactive like that and try and find a way to save Kanda. I don't think Ellen would be comfortable with herself if she just sat around for a few months while her friends and husband went off fighting and risking their lives. She would want to be helpful, and trying to save Kanda would be. She would have to divert her energy elsewhere, and Kanda's curse would be an alternative to saving akuma.
True, we don't know what that symbol is... is it a curse, or a byproduct of what the Order did to him?
I remember in the Reverse novels, a picture of a slightly younger Kanda and a demon. I though that Kanda might have had a normal life span before, but chose to make some sort of deal to get fast healing powers.
Divorce was also very expensive and if a woman did not have her own money, it might have been impossible. I'm not sure if couples would separate though. If they were wealthy enough, she might move to another home.
But he could always kick her out of the home, and would not have to give her any money to survive. Even if she got a job, he could claim her wages!
There was also a social stigma of divorcing a husband.
I hope Ellen would not divorce Kanda because she cares for him, not because she is afraid of a social stigma.
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I agree; I also had some doubts but I trusted that she would not kill Kanda without hinting at his past. Even Skinn got parts of his past revealed when he died. That's why I also think that the Twins are still alive... But I would not have been surprised if Hoshino had killed Crowley... Well, after Rabi was "downloaded" I was pretty convinced that he and Kanda would come back.
I don't know Soul Eater, so I can't really say. I think Neuro (or whatever it's called) had a female lead as well, but she didn't seem to be the active part... Still, Allen would have been a great female protagonist (even though I also thought that Linali was awesome until after her fight against the Level 3 Akuma).
About Kanda; I thought that I might use "Time limitation on Kanda's life VS Ellen as Destroyer of Time" as a possibility for Ellen to save Kanda. But it might be going a bit over the top. I'm not sure yet... It depends on what Kanda's tatto and this life restriction (plus that second exorcist stuff) really is... I also thought that he might have made a deal, possibly with "That person"...
Well, I doubt Ellen would want to get a divorce because she should discover that being with Kanda is better than being without him. She did like him enough to want to be with him. She'd be a great fool for wanting to divorce Kanda - the only husband she can probably be really happy with. Charlene will also see that Kanda was the best choice for her daughter, but until she does she will oppose the marriage and will try to dissolve it. With little effect I guess X3
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