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Spider-Bat700 — Comic Book Characters Alignment Chart
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Here's another alignment chart, this one for various comic book characters. Once again, credit goes to ChopSilverBlood for the basic sheet.Captain America, Lawful Good-Yeah. Civil War notwithstanding, this guy's a text book example of Lawful Good. Big crusader of justice and all that.
Spider-Man, Neutral Good-In hindsight I should have probably made him Lawful Good and Captain America Neutral Good, but its too late now.
Batman, Chaotic Good-While I would say Batman is frequently more Neutral Good and in current comics is Lawful Good, he's been Chaotic Good sometimes and that's the alignment people most associate him with, so...
Spectre, Lawful Neutral-Oh yes. A merciless judge, jury, and executioner of sinners who works for God. He passes down brutal judgment and honestly is too merciless and sadistic to qualify as good. Fortunately, his only punishing the guilty and his working for God both ensure that he's this instead of Lawful Evil.
Eternity, True Neutral-A cosmic being who almost always stays out of the affairs of the rest of the universe, rarely interfering, and when he does, its almost always to maintain balance.
Deadpool, Chaotic Neutral-While he started out Neutral Evil/Chaotic Evil, these days Wade Wilson DEFINES Chaotic Neutral.
Doctor Doom, Lawful Evil-Yeah. A tyrannical dictator with a code of honor and sense of nobility and morals in spite of being a villain, Doom is a textbook example of Lawful Evil.
Deadshot, Neutral Evil-An unscrupulous, self-centered assassin and sociopath who only cares about money. He spent a lot of time with the Secret Six, but even there he stayed on mostly for business reasons and is still a bad guy.
The Joker, Chaotic Evil-Do I even need to say why he fits this one?
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Another Example of Lawful Neutral is JUDGE DREDD. "I-AM-THE-LAW!!"
And the PUNISHER would be Chaotic Neutral because he definitely has nothing but contempt for the law. As for his actions well he's no nice guy but though his actions are violent, brutal, and ruthless and therefore not good he directs his savagery to those who are criminals and so therefore Chaotic Neutral is the only alignment he can be categorised in.
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My god, someone else who rightly recognizes the Punisher as Chaotic Neutral? Say it ain't so!
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Captain America is Lawful Good because while he is a big believer in following the law and protecting the structures established by civilized society, he's an even bigger believer in doing right by your fellow human beings and even nonhumans and if the law interferes with that latter ideal, then he chooses Good over Law every time.
Spider-Man works as Neutral Good because he's not really doing it for anybody or anything but his own conscience and morals. Sure, he'll work with law enforcement entities like the NYPD or S.H.I.E.L.D. or state-deputized heroes like the Avengers, but he's just as willing to accept, however grudgingly, being treated and depicted as the outlaw because ultimately he's doing what's right, not necessarily what's lawful.
Batman would be Chaotic Good primarily in his early years when the law in Gotham was so corrupt that he had to dress up as a giant bat and go around beating and intimidating the s*** out of criminals, from the lowliest street punk to dirty cops to the most powerful of mob bosses and corrupt officials and businessmen, or else nothing would get done about the rampant criminality festering in the city. As Gotham moved toward reforming the GCPD and other lawful institutions to stave off the tide of organized crime, Batman was more willing to work alongside the law, though not necessarily openly, and thus would arguably be more Neutral Good. He's still got shades of Chaotic Good, primarily with the Justice League insofar as he's aware of the potential dangers inherent to an organization of borderline demigods with a space headquarters overlooking the planet and will take measures against said dangers regardless of how affronted his teammates feel.
The others, I can't really argue or explain much better than they've already been.
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The thing is though, everything you said about Cap just confirms that he really is better off as Neutral Good, especially the "he'll choose good over law every time". That's Neutral Good. And Spider-Man's allowing himself to be viewed as an outlaw I would not necessarily say indicates Neutral Good. Ultimately I would argue that they're both kind of in-between the two.
And actually Spider-Man does good things to honor his uncle's memory, not just sate his conscience.
Batman has been all three good alignments at some point or another I'd say. You're right that the sort of "Year One" Batman is more Chaotic Good, but modern Batman is in-between Neutral Good and Lawful Good
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Points taken, although it should be mentioned that the dramatic potential in a Lawful Good character is whether to choose law or good. Ideally, the law is the best means of achieving good outcomes, but recognizing that lawful is not always the same as good leaves Lawful Good characters who emphasize the "Good" in that alignment conflicted about which to follow. Some will reluctantly choose to follow the law because they rationalize it as their best option for the good of all, even if it leaves a poor taste in their mouths. Others of the same alignment will reluctantly bend or even break the law in the name of doing good, perhaps justifying it by way of "we have to break the law to preserve the law," in terms of fighting against someone trying to manipulate the law to avoid judgment for their crimes. That usually tends to be my interpretation for Captain America being Lawful Good; his ideal is that the law is the best and most effective tool of promoting and preserving good, but if it comes to a decision between a law that impedes good ends and those same good ends, he will more often than not choose good.
As for Spider-Man, that's why I said conscience and morals; the morals he learned from Uncle Ben, and the conscience is a matter of his guilt for it taking Uncle Ben's death to remember and uphold those morals. All the same, while his guilt complex plays a role in a lot of the things he does, he's ultimately more driven by the lesson that power comes with responsibilities that must be upheld by those possessing power.
And yes, Batman's pretty much all the good alignments depending on the writer and the situation. With a deeply corrupt and crime-ridden Gotham, he's Chaotic Good because s*** just won't get done if he tries to rely on the law. With a cleaner, more reformed Gotham with a more honest police force and officials, he can afford to work alongside the law, though as a vigilante, he's still technically outside said law, which would make him between Neutral and Lawful Good, like you said. I could argue a bit for leaning closer to Lawful Good, insofar as he still trusts the justice system of Gotham to deal with criminals after he's turned them over even with years of repeated escapes and recurrent murder sprees and doesn't feel he has the right to take punishment into his own hands.
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I agree with most.
Doctor Doom is really most Neutral Evil. He is fueled by petty jealousy. And will do almost any thing to prove that he's smarter than Reed Richard (or at lest depending on the writer, the will do anything part not the jealousy part that most writers can agree on.) One person even said that Doom's sole purpose is to wreck everything and make everyone miserable of course this also depends on the writer. And in general Doom seems to do what ever he wants sure he has standards but their standards he's chosen for himself.
As you're stated Batman as been all over the Good Alignments (and one might even say the other ones to) so there are better examples of Chaotic Good then Batman.
Joker pretty much veers between Chaotic Evil (with a touch of Stupid Evil, even though the Jokers not stupid) and Chaotic Stupid. But he's never Lawful Evil.
Captain American is basically the embodiment of Lawful Good with the slight exception of the Marvel Civil War and even that's debatable.
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True, but Doctor Doom is a powermonger. He loves power and getting more and more. He's a monarch who is evil but noble at times. That's Lawful Evil.
I don't recognize the parody alignments, including Lawful Stupid and Chaotic Stupid.
True about Batman, but he is my favorite and as the quote shows he's Chaotic Good some of the time, so he fits.
Again, true about Cap, but consider: he has shown a couple times in fact (such as when he willingly stopped being Captain America because he didn't want to be a slave to the government) that if necessary he will break the law. He's also said "I am loyal to nothing except the dream". To me, he's in the gray area between Lawful Good and Neutral Good.
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Neutral Evil is the one that's all about power and self interest. And or The achieving ones plans and or goals using both legal and illegal means.
Lawful Evil is the one all about control or maintaining order.
Chaotic Evil is the one about personal amusement and or desires "some men just want to watch the world burn."
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Hmmm....I always associated Neutral Evil with "selfish mercenary" like Boba Fett, Deathstroke, and Deadshot, whereas Lawful Evil is "doing evil things from position of power and authority". And in fact Doctor Doom is about maintaining order. He's a dictator who has tried to take over the world repeatedly precisely so he can bring about "order". So near as I can tell Doom is Lawful Evil. To me, Neutral Evil is "I don't care about you or your problems I just want my money (or some other selfish desire) and will do whatever it takes to get it".
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Thinking about it Dooms alignment depends on the write. The well intended extremist, noble demon is Lawful Evil. The one that just wants to wreck everything and prove he is smarter then Reed is Natural Evil.
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Sounds about right to me, and frankly I prefer Noble Demon Doom to Card Carrying Villain Doom any day. But even when trying to prove he's smarter Doom definitely enjoys power, which I think pushes him into LE. In the end, I think we can safely say that while mostly depending on the writer, Doom is primarily Lawful Evil with some elements of Neutral Evil.
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Yeah you have a point. I also do prefer the Noble Demon too. Doom is one of my favorite Marvel villains (some times anti-villain) and Reed Richard is one of my least favorite Heroes.
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With Reed I think it depends. I really like classic Reed due to his being a total nice guy. I don't like modern Reed because he's a self-righteous jerk who according to TV tropes has some near MEH crossings...
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