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Save the
-Dhole
-Iberian Lynx
-Channel Islands Fox
-Loggerhead Sea Turtle
-California Condor
Or, hell, anything that's actually fucking endangered (I just thought of those off the top of my head) before you start whinging about "SAVE THE WOLVES SAVE THE WOLVES!!!".
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Although the Grey Wolf still faces some threats, its relatively widespread range and stable population trend mean that the species does not meet, or nearly meet, any of the criteria for the threatened categories. Therefore, it is assessed as Least Concern.
The IUCN Red List lists grey wolves as Least Concern.
And do you know how many vulnerable, endangered, and critical amphibians there are?
Oh wait, they're not cute/"badass" enough. Sorry.
Wolves are not fucking endangered. Unless you can show me solid, unbiased evidence, you are full of shit.
Save the California Condors. You know, something that's actually critically endangered?
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Notice how these people always resort to name calling. You disagree with me? UR A FAGGOT!
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Turret-Wolfheart confirmed for wolfaboo.
From you're above posts, I can tell you are one. :] Have a nice day.
P.S : Their's only like..ONE wolf species that's somewhat threatened I think, not the gray wolves you guys are obsessed with so cool it.
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The mexican grey wolf is just one population out of an entire species. Grey wolves aren't going to die out anytime soon
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Actually it is a unique subspecies of wolf and is on the verge of dieing out. If your saying that because there are other populations of other species of wolf in different geographic locations we can or should just go ahead and hunt them to extinction, That would be a very weak argument. In the big picture every species plays a part in the ecology of the local and eventually the global environment. You can't just blow it off and say, "oh they are more out there, the species as a whole will survive" because that is different parts of the world and different species or subspecies. Once a species is gone you can't get it back.
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Did I once -- once -- say I wanted the protection on wolves to be removed?
No.
I simply said they are not endangered. Formally, they're not. I'm not saying "TAKE OFF PROTECTION"-- but people are prioritizing wolves, who are not endangered, over animals that are in serious risk right now.
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then you should have clarified your statement deary or whats better you could have maid a stamp sporting endangered animals instead of making a stamp that puts something down, just saying and one side note, some types of wolves are about to go extinct like the red-wolf or Mexican gray and since people group them together this stamp could be detrimental to the support of those wolves witch are endangered.
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It shouldn't have to be explicitly stated that you don't want to gun animals down simply because you say that they're not endangered-- it's dangerously black-and-white thinking.
Any comment I've made has been about the grey wolf; it's what most people think of. I freely admit that there are species of wolf that are in danger, but the fact is, when you say "wolf", people will automatically think grey wolf-- who many people are truly convinced are endangered.
Either way, one person on the internet making a soapbox against people who are overly-obsessed with wolves isn't going to change much.
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Turret, I don't mean to tell you your job or anything, but I don't think being a hypocrite is helping your case. You bragged about being an expert through this discussion, then when Hyena mentioned that bragging is bad, you said that you hadn't bragged at all. But that's not where the hypocrisy ends.
"...especially when they most lickly (What does "lickly" mean? Oh, you meant "likely!" Thanks for clearing that up!) wont hear a word I say." You outright ignored a lot of Hyena's points and you say people needs to listen to YOU? Quit it with the double standards, both for people who criticise you for your obsession AND for animals other than the North American "grey" (timber) wolf.
This page needs to be screencapped. For great justice.
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The sad truth is it dose Hun, because people don't understand if it isn't explained to them. People think that arctic wolves are grays and even some books will argue that. So you do have to understand when you put that statement on the stamp you blanketed all wolves not just grays.
Seeing how much anger this stamp has given you maybe you should have never maid it. Again I will state that most people will ether love the wolf or hate it, that isn't me just saying that, it's been documented by several biologist and sociologists people just think like that sadly. And yes hunny, one Pearson dose make a difference in the whole, people just don't seam to understand that anymore
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The arctic wolf IS a grey wolf according to MSW3, the most up to date mammal taxonomy site:
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''Canis lupus arctos'', not ''Canis arctos''
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It gets debited, really, I don't care about little people like you, now bugger off.
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Textbook feature distinguishing wolfaboos from actual wolf experts:
The latter, when questioned, will try to present the facts behind their claims, while the former simply tell you to bugger off.
Was it really so hard to actually try and enlighten me? Why dont you post me an article or link showing your side of the "debit"? I didnt know there even was a debate going on.
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cuuuUUUUZZZzzz I don't feel I have to report to you, duh. 
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What could possibly be more productive than enlightening people? Or is it standard procedure among "wolf experts" to tell people who put things into question to go screw themselves?
And for your information, I actually did try and see if what you said had any basis. Guess what? NOBODY seems to think as you do, that is, not actual authorities on wolves anyhow:
WWF: The arctic wolf (Canis lupus arctos) is a sub-species of the grey wolf [link]
International Wolf Center: The arctic wolf (Canis lupus arctos), a subspecies of the gray wolf [link]
David Mech: The arctic wolf is a race, subspecies, or geographic variant of the gray wolf (Canis lupus) [link]
So where on earth did you get your idea from? I am genuinely curious.
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You do realize that since the timber wolf and arctic wolf are different subspecies of the gray wolf that you actually proved me right. You do understand that right? Or are you just stupid?
As for the debated thing I said it gets debated where or not a subspecies should get recognize or just be considered a regular gray wolf.
As for calling me a wolf expert, thank you, I do consider myself one. Before you call that into question I've studied wolves my whole life reading up on anything I could find on them and even though I don't have a slip of paper that says, "golly G, this man is really smart about wolves"it doesn't mean I'm any less knowledgeable then "experts" because I have compiled knowledge just as they have. I only lack hands on experience with one on one and wolfpack iteration but I may very well have that one summer very soon because I'm looking at an internship at a wolf shelter and research facility.
The reason I don't feel like educating you is because when you started this little combo you where already "set in" so to say, and no reel interest but to bother me anyway. And again I don't have to report to you, if your really are curios I'm sure you can find it if you put more effort into it.
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The word you used was GRAY, not TIMBER. Here are your own words: "People think that arctic wolves are grays and even some books will argue that. So you do have to understand when you put that statement on the stamp you blanketed all wolves not just grays."
Gray encompasses the species as a whole, while timber does not. You entered this "combo" accusing someone else of not being clear with his words, yet the way you spoke, it would seem that you were implying that arctic wolves were a species in their own right, like red and ethiopian wolves.
I got into this because I wondered if I'd missed something on current wolf classification trends. After taking your advice and checking it out, turns out I didnt.
I fail to see how I "bothered" you by posting MSW3. As a self-proclaimed expert, I would have thought you'd have liked the oppurtunity to display your knowledge. Heck, you seem eagre enough to remind us about it. It was your totally tactless response that opened you up to "bother".
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*shrugs* it is a matter of opinion if they are or not, to me they are, to some others they are, to others they are just grays or even timbers. but like I have said. I'm not concerned with little people like you, so I'm defiantly not going to bother with educating you. if you have nothing more to say leave me be.
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Meh, I've just one more thing:
If you want people to actually believe you are a wolf expert, then act like one. If you brag about being one, then don't be surprised when people put you to the test and end up thinking you're simply another wolfaboo when you lash out
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I don't brag about it, I just am. It's not my job to educate people, especially when they most lickly wont hear a word I say.
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They're a threatened species, if I am correct.
Not endangered at all. c:
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The grey wolf, and all subspecies thereof, is, from 2004 to now, classified as Least Concern.
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P:
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Wow! Fantastic!
I'm glad they've made a comeback. c:
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I know!
Despite what my angry stamps may imply, I don't outright hate wolves-- I just hate the fangirls thereof. xP Any endangered animal getting off the list is a good thing as far as I care.
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I like wolves.
Fun to draw. c:
But the crazed fangirls are a problem
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Most wolves aren't There's like one breed.... Save the indonesian tigers! (ARe those extinct yet?)
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there are more than one breed of wolf
and most of them are at risk or endangered
are ansestors killed the dire wolf that is why they dont live today 
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I know there is more than one breed of wolf. I was referring to how many endangered breeds there are.
MOST of them are not endangered, only a few.
The thing is, the animal that comes to most peoples minds when you say "Wolf" is not endangered.
My view on the topic is, if you're going to get up in arms over wolves, you'd best be ready to do the same for every other endangered animal.
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but there are some endangered spieces of wolf
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Yes, I know that. This stamp is talking about the Gray Wolves that people are so quick to jump up and defend.
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THE RED IS MORE ENDANGRED THAN ANY OTHER WOLF
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No need to yell.
I know that, you know that, Kazz knows that, that's not what this stamp is about. :/
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sorry if it looked like i was yelling
i did not relise that it was capital
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Oh. Well, as long as you didn't mean it I guess it's okay?
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Yes, save the tigers 8c They're not extinct yet, I think Sumatrans have about 400 something living animals still in the wild. And declining.
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Whatever the number, there aren't as many, and they are plenty cool. Wolf-crazies ought to do their research.
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No kidding >.< I love wolves and all, but still...
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Wolves may be cool, but that doesn't make them endangered.
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Chya. You just can't see them off the side of the road like you can deer @_@
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i bet i know more about animales than you to
and i did do my reserch aoooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwww
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How much are you willing to stake on that bet?
How do you intend to prove that you know more about animals than me? I'll beat you at anything you come up with.
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i have basicly studied animals my hole life
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Yeah? So have I. Something tells me I'm older than you.
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the red wolf was completely wiped out on the wild then captive
breeding reinterduced them back to the wild but there are only
hundred left.
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I thought I'd already said that I know that.
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You keep saying that red wolves are endangered. I am aware of this fact. As I have been for some time.
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