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Inspired by the posters everyone has seen by now. Took the photos myself of course.
Are you against tracing? Join the club!
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I understand if a person wants to look at pictures and draw them like that for practice, but not posting them.
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Of course it's wrong
It's Link not goddamn Zelda
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your comment made me laugh so hard XD
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Would reverencing a picture heavily count as tracing?
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No but in the eyes of many authors, it has the same level of evilness.
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yup
i used to trace when i was little, but i think it was just practice :3
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People against tracing it's self are no good. I mean I can understand tracing a picture you didn't make and claiming skill and then lie about (Other than tracings skill), but it's been proven by reports that tracing it's self as a practice has improved drawing skills.
And let's not forget the need for tracing your own works to help finish stuff faster or something.
And tracing others to make a certain thing (Tracing a 2D drawing, and turning it into 3D, or for the purpose of making a certain point).
And then there is proper credit.
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I Agree with you; Not Everyone is able to draw without References!!! Some People are on a Tight Schedule and NEED to Trace in order to meet a Deadline(Time Is Money; and Wasting Time is Wasting Money);
I Don't see why people get their panties in a tightwad about using something to help their art to not suck; or finish art before the deadline. . .
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" but it's been proven by reports that tracing it's selfΒ as a practiceΒ has improved drawing skills." [citation needed]
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Maybe I should of at least said "I heard". But it's kind of understandable. When you trace, it can probably help you have some kind of memory when you draw.
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Okay, I guess I have to ask now. I have traced in the past. Specifically, I traced block figures from my 'how to draw manga'-books in order to get a feel for human anatomy. I copied those over and over as practice (and practice alone). Is this the same kind of tracing as the one you are trying to combat here? Is all tracing equally wrong?
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Tracing a picture and claiming it as your own is what's wrong.Β
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Everyone here!
There's an application for 3ds called "Colors!3d" and theres also an online gallery where theres TONS of traced pictures and they get all the credit from the original artist! D:< also I always put in the comments that it is traced but they are still getting likes! that's not fair! so if youre aΒ tracer in colors!3d please stop tracing! its annoying!
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Even worse when those people get tons of attention for their traced images. Even crazier, if they don't mention that it's traced, but super obvious. And even more worse is when those "artists" make money with it(commissions, prints). >.<
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It's a point - no question.
But is it enough for a general suspect?
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True that, I was drawing Toothless the Dragon and Sonic the Hedgehog at school the other day in my own style I've developed. My friend saw the drawings, and she said that they were good. She asked me if she can borrow the Drawings for a second, she just took them without hearing me say "For what"? She was tracing over both of the pictures. It really pissed me off..
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This was all the weebs at my school last year.
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can we talk about how it says Zelda pictures and that person is tracing a Link picture
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Okay... maybe by "zelda" he meant "Legend of Zelda".
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Aston Martin LMP1
The Original: www.carsbase.com/photo/Aston_Mβ¦
The Β "tracing"?? Β lyle462.deviantart.com/art/Astβ¦
fineartamerica.com/featured/asβ¦
Fire Bomber
The Original:Β Β 1000aircraftphotos.com/Contribβ¦
The Β "tracing"?? Β Β lyle-brown.artistwebsites.com/β¦
Chip Foose Designed Delahaye
The Original: Β www.clusterflock.org/2010/05/cβ¦
The Β "tracing"?? Β Β Β www.deviantart.com/art/Bugnottβ¦
fineartamerica.com/featured/buβ¦
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Those were not traced, they were redrawn. There are differences in the drawings that shouldn't be there if he just traced the photo.
Redrawing from photos is usually considered good art, especially when you do it as well as he does. But yes, he does need to credit the person/people who made his reference pictures possible.
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To be honest.. Lyle462 is an amazing artist. The "tracing?" you claimed was not a real tracing, at least I don't remember it ever being one.
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vocaloid-fanatic ,
"...I don't remember it ever being one."
Did you see the original "drawing" or are you looking at a "drawing" posted on a website?
KkoolTteok
"Those were not traced, they were redrawn."
And you know this because...???
GOOGLE
"How to Cheat on Illumination if You Canβt Draw"
By Amie Sparrow
Atlantian University, February 2004, Shire of Berley Cor
There are a number of good P.S. tutorials showing an "artist" how to change a photograph into a line drawing.Β
All you need is ...
an Aston Martin LMP1 or a Fire Bomber photograph, a MAC, Photoshop and you too can "draw" the most detailed (down to the individual pixel) aircraft or race car.Β
or
Strathmore Bristol Smooth 300 Series, acid free, 100 lb weight
pencils, french curves and a bright light table, aka tracing table.
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Why so complicated?
You only need a piece of paper, a pencil and a battery of colors.
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It is probably a reference so he should credit it but its still not a tracing. If you can notify him to credit that would be fine. (It's still art imo...)
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I warn my self all the time (to submit or not) when i want to submit art, So true and i agree, My other school claims that it teaches how to draw but it wouldn't help.
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The problem with tracing, ISN'T TRACING ITSELF! The problem is when someone claims the image they trace is their own; you are blaming a simple ART TECHNIQUE for that persons dishonesty.Β If I copy another drawing pen point without tracing it, and then claim it as my own, does that make me any better then the guy who traced it, the answer is no. If someone wants to trace, especially someone who is just doing it for fun and don't even take art that serious then let them. That is like me getting bashed for picking up a basket ball and just throwing it at the hoop instead if taking the time to try and mentally measure the distance and force needed to accurately put the ball in its designated location.
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I highly agree with your comment here. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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I reference pictures a lot. Sometimes heavily. Is heavy referencing bad?
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No,not at all c:
I reference pictures too. Sometimes,people say that this is tracing,but don't worry. It's not Β
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I really hate referencing! I never get the draw right!
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*I really hate referencing! I never get the damn asshole drawing right!
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Tracing's very wrong.Β
I mean, there's not fun if you trace. I never trace. It takes hours for my to get my art work right.Β
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I never ever trace. Although, I do use references quite often. That wouldn't be art theft, would it? Like, if I were to look at a picture of Donkey Kong then draw him in a different pose or something? Or what if I was confused on how the back legs of a pony work, so I looked at the show and copied (not traced) the leg line, but just the leg line and nothing else? Also, I don't think fanart isn't art theft. I think it's art inspired by a show/movie/artist/book/whatever. But I agree on the picture above, though. That is definitely not fanart nor using a reference, and is just plain tracing. I think It's okay only if you don't say you did it, and are using this technique only for learning purposes. Sometimes, though, people and artists and whatnot actually make/draw stuff specifically for tracing and give out puppets for their own uses.
This is all my opinion on such, and I would love if someone reassured me on this subject!
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I really don't think so. In that case, you might as well be looking at an actual gorilla. The best way to make an artist though, in my opinion, is to keep practicing with original work. I don't think you can just jump in and become a prodigy; it takes a lot of work.
My art isn't noteworthy, but I'm beginning to understand perspective, backgrounds, and clothing lines.
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Β Thanks, man! I feel a lot better about that. Also, clever suggestion about the gorilla!
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It's stupid that my class has to trace in Art Class.
And it's called "Art".
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Is it different if you just look at a picture for inspiration? Like have the picture near you while you're drawing?
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Yes, but you need to give credit to the original
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What is the big problem with tracing? I don't understand. I know people who do it quickly for class projects and what not because they don't have artist ability. Art is art, there is no right or wrong answer as to how to draw something, or how to trace something. If a person wants to trace let them. You don't have to look at the image or even comment on it.
Sure the image they traced should be linked or sourced, but sometimes people just forget or find the image on google and just save it to their computer.
So if tracing is bad, what about the people who do photorealism and alter the images the way they want? Is that still considered a way of tracing?
The way I see it, sure tracing can be good or bad, but there are so many methods out there like tracing, that I'm sure some of you who are against tracing do and don't even realize it.
So get over yourselves and don't bee such assholes about the people learning how to draw that need a little help.
-End Rant-
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When I was in elementary, I use to trace images from coloring books to help my drawing skills. A few years later I than started copying the images from coloring books to test my skills. When I became a pre- teen I learned how to draw anime from how to draw books. As a teenager I moved on to making up drawings with my imagination. At the age of 18 I stopped drawing anime to focus on real proportions of humans to mimic an American style of drawing and images as references to help me understand how to draw: poses, face xpressios, hand posters, etc, etc. Now I am 21 years old and tracing was my starting point of drawing, that made me the artist I am today. Also to give a small opinion for the against part of the argument,I only hate it when artists dont give credit and only pretend they drew it without tracing. They can at least admit that they trace it.
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The problem with tracing is that it is STEALING. I don't give a shit if they have "Artistic abilities" or not. They certainly are not going to get better if they just copy constantly.
Anything that is put on the internet can end up on google or bing. Search engines just use key words. For example, I might draw a cat and title it "Kitten", then put it on here. Then anyone could search "Kitten Art", and the kitten in the title would be a key word as well as the art in DeviantArt. Think about it. What if you worked on a picture or animation, you worked so very hard. Then somebody walks over and traces it, and they get full credit for YOUR work. IT is just as bad as recoloring.
I would NOT like my pictures to be traced, EVEN IF the picture was sourced.
No, photorealism is not considered tracing. People SKETCH, based on the picture. Then they use the picture as a REFERENCE. Referencing is NOT the same as tracing.
Tracing is BAD. Not good at all. Tracing is not a "method" at all, it is STEALING.
S. T. E. A. L. I. N. G.
Methods you think are "like" tracing are not. Tracing is straight out being lazy. It takes no effort to put a picture up against a window and line it.
Don't even give onion skinning while animating as one of these "methods", because it is NOT tracing, as you are drawing your own animation.
Sketching is something I do a lot, as GUIDELINES. IT IS NOT TRACING.
Sketching is used so that people can get things right before they do a final copy. Otherwise it looks as if the anatomy of your drawing is messed up.
Nobody against tracing is being an asshole about the people "learning" how to draw and need a little help. Tracers learn NOTHING about how to freaking draw. They need to make their own goddamn shit.
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Thank you! Tracing is a waste of time that could be used to create or learn actual art. Tracing is cool when you are 5 and don't know any better, but after that tracing to create characters or backgrounds is LAME.
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Take a look at a perfect example of tracing: [link]
lol at all the people flooding in defending tracing and taking credit for other's hard work.
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