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Published: 2012-09-26 23:39:10 +0000 UTC; Views: 179123; Favourites: 989; Downloads: 0
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Notes:So, to start things off with this interpretation of the chart, most of the description is no longer on the deviation itself. The unfortunate truth is that this page became way, way too long because the DB franchise never stops adding transformations. There will inevitably be more Saiyan transformations on the horizon, too. They drive merchandise sales.
Anyway, you can now find all the information in this Google Doc: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d…
As always, there's no need to ask about whether I will be including a form or why I haven't added any potential new transformations to the chart. This document will likely be kept up to date with at least acknowledging new forms as they're revealed. However, I will still be waiting for them to fully debut in the their respective media (anime, manga, games, whatever) before deciding what I'm doing with them in regards to the project.
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However, if you'd like to discuss these changes, or the project in general, you're welcome to join my DB Redux Discord server for the community members, an early look at finished & WIP character art and links to full battle power lists.
Thank you, and please enjoy!
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I like the concept of False Super Saiyan God and i can imagine the SSJ3 version being called "False Super Saiyan God Evolution"
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would you ever consider making a similar chart for Raiokutians (and there mutated counterparts)
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I could, but there's nothing really worth of a chart, in my opinion. It would all be just a straight line for the project. If the member was like Freeza and created forms to control their power, toss on however many are needed. Otherwise, stack all the transformations.
Suppressed Form 3 -> Suppressed Form 2 -> Supressed Form 1 -> True Form -> Super Evolution -> Ultimate Evolution -> Super Ultimate Evolution
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What about Coola's form and the DBH avatars they don't apply
and what do you consider to be the differences between Raiokutians and their hybrid mutations (not only in power but in biology and transformations)?
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Coola's Movie 5 form is the "Super Evolution" on that list.
While the DBH/SDBH avatars do have design changes, they're never acknowledged as actual transformations anywhere because they're all just kids entering a game in anything that features them rather than real, in-universe characters. The Class-Ups are only treated as outfit changes for them. So while I am treating them as real characters in the project, I'm doing absolutely nothing different with them than guys like Frost, Freeza, etc. I'll pick a few of their outfits and make them a handful of the previously known transformations.
There's ultimately not much difference between the mutants and the normal members of the race. Supplemental info states the mutations gives them immense power and an evil disposition, and I'm doing the same. Most members are born into their True Form, which can vary greatly in design, and never change out of it because there's not much need to. But they are capable of creating lower forms like Freeza to alter their appearance, suppress their power, etc. Mutants like Freeza or Coola gain access to the transformations to further increase their power even more than the immense strength they were already born with. There aren't any specific traits that are unique to non-mutants and mutants or anything tho.
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I got shown this by a friend, and this has a lot of effort and thought put into it. Good job!
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Thanks. It's quite annoying having to sort this out again every time a new transformation is introduced. lol
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Yeah, I’d think so.
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What would you say the multiplier is for Bio Broli’s Restricted Super Saiyan?
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Variable, depending on how close Bio-Broli is to breaking the device. Just starting it off at x25 tho, same as False SS.
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My Rosé actually has a dull, saturated pink color for the eyes that's similar to the gray of the original, but still noticeably pink.
Depends on the phrasing of the person making the wish, or how Monkey's Paw Super Shenlong (the only one capable of such feats) interprets a vague wish, I suppose. If the dragon basically altered reality so that they were always a Saiyan, it'd be pure. In a case like the original situation for Zamasu, where they literally just changed bodies, it'd still be impure. (I suppose said impurity would stay intact until every cell in their body is replaced and in sync with the new mind and soul. That's like 10 years for a human, who knows about Saiyans with their extended youth though.)
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I did mean like, someone kept the same body, but changes their DNA to be Saiyan. Like, Krillin or Yamcha asking to be one, but thanks.
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For now, Super and GT remain in the same timeline. That was always the plan, to tie the new age of material into GT...eventually. I'm just...not entirely sure how I'm doing that anymore though, since the new era of DB has no end in sight. I suppose I'll just continue to avoid worrying about it for now, until the Super era either ends or we surpass GT's place on the timeline. Whichever happens first.
As for the rest of this; I'm basing my Time Patrol content mostly off of DB Online, with hints of Xenoverse, that strays a bit further away from using the familiar main cast. So while there will (obviously) be story content from the SDBH side of the franchise, as I've already posted some of it, none of the typical Xeno hero characters (Goku, Vegeta, Gohan & Goten) will be in the project. The only major familiar faces that will be seen in the Time Patrol are Trunks and Bardock.
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Number wise, just making sure the Berserk numbers are supposed to be unique and not a literal stacking of Ozaru Harnessed + SS form. I assume for balancing reasons.
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Word. Making sure. All looks great as usual.
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look cool, like always 
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i fale to see a difference between regular and ozaru harnessed forms... am i supposed to?
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Not at this size, unfortunately. They're based on Broli's forms in his Super movie. So they're meant to have the yellow and black eyes. Though the non-SS version has a slightly brown tint to the hair, too.
His were eventually buff for most of the movie because he was losing control to his anger, and thus was becoming less "Ozaru Harnessed" and more just Ozaru. But the goal is to maintain your normal body size as when he initially triggers it:
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is Saiyan and super Saiyan oozaru harnessed supposed to be the forms broly has in the movie, because if so and no offence I think they need to have the build of grade 3 maybe a bit bigger and at SSGSS maybe u can add 2 more branches for SSgss kaioken and YES I am counting it as a form And SSblue evolution, not dragon ball evolution, and maybe if u do maybe u could add the glows to the other Saiyan forms like Oozaru harnessed and maybe ss2, 3, god, blue, 4, legendary. also also, hate being a critic your work is AMAZING, but what about super Saiyan power goku showed before the other world tournament, in hell and super Saiyan grade 4?
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The description exists for a reason. It answers most of your questions.
Yes, the Ozaru Harnessed forms are the ones Broli has in the movie. However, he doesn't start out buff when using it. The normal body frame is the standard state in the project. The more unstable the Saiyan's mind becomes, the more the Ozaru elements take over and their size begins to increase. I'm not adding that extraneous trait to the chart though.
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yeah but when he get to that state in his bigger form, ain't that like the full form, because the one in the picture is him taping into it and the spike hair with the large frame is the full state, its even shown in the character sheet LOL
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No, it the opposite of the full form. He's losing control to his rage, when the goal is to maintain control. The sheet shows that difference because it's what happens to him in he film and it's pretty drastic, but it's not what is supposed to happen. Same as when I drew Semiperfect Cell's self-destruction form, even though it's not actually a new form. He just got fat.
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what about cell? and it seem like he was getting more animalistic during the fighting so he lose control during the fight. because of actually slamming Goku throw out the ice and him roaring at the end, doesn't seem like broly who had control because at the begin of the fight he was pretty much matching Vegeta fighting, doing the flying and all that and same with during Goku fight, at first flying around and fighting but during the end he goes all animal like. so I pull the reverse card on you LOL
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I was pretty blunt about it. If you don't get the comparison to Cell, I'm not going to bother trying to explain it again. However, all you're doing is proving what I've said I'm doing with Broli's form. It's meant to harness the power of the Ozaru while humanoid, without the bulk and animal rage. The more you lose control though, the less human you stay. Hence his size increasing, hair spiking and more animalistic actions...just like when they start transforming into an Ozaru, because he basically is. That power is no longer being contained in his normal body, and the actual Ozaru transformation is starting to surface as much as it can, considering he has no tail anymore.
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Yeah but again that the problem, your mixing both the spike hair with the body broly has when he FIRST unlocks the body, he's full Ikari power would be more like grade 3 body, but the way u did it, it looks like goku in he'll fighting the old villains, that the full point as to why I asked if that was the Ikari power or not because I couldn't tell, and I asked about cell because that came out of no where, what is the core comparison between broly and cell?
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Okay, now going off the new map and the description, I find it weird that you can reach Super Saiyan Berserk from Super Saiyan (Ōzaru Harnessed), despite the fact the latter is actually the stronger of the two forms based on that last bit of the description. In that case, will there be a reason why Broli will be switching between the two forms in your version of the movie's events?
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Should be fixed now. May have to tweak my battle powers for Broli and Kale again if I didn't take this stuff into account the last time I messed with them and this description though... ugh.
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It’s fine, sorry I had you do more work that late...
Will say I really love how the graph is looking, and how the corrupted color for Super Saiyan God: Instinct is gold; because Zamasu actually would be pretentious enough for that to fit what would technically be his strongest form as Goku Black.
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I'm tired. Barely looked at the description when I added the new Ozaru Harnessed stuff in; assumed I'd already sorted it out when updating the text last time. I'll tweak it in a bit.
Berserk's power can stack on top of both the Super Saiyan & Ozaru Harnessed form's multipliers if the character has the ability to use the Ozaru power, just like how Broli cycles through those forms in that order in the movie proper. However, it's not really affected by the physical attributes of the previous forms, so it remains it's own actual transformation branch and not a SSBerserk (Ozaru Harnessed) state.
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Okay then, so just to clarify, Super Saiyan Berserk doesn't look any different if it's building up from either the Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan (Ozaru Harnessed) states with the only difference being the power of it, or are there actual differences between the two states, but they're miniscule in presence?
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No difference, besides probably having an easier time "controlling" the form if you don't tack on trying to control the Ozaru elements too. Still giant height increase, still buff muscles, still green hair, and still white eyes if rampaging or normal eyes if somehow fully in control. (Undecided if they'll be cyan like Kale's controlled form or yellow like Broli's right before Gogeta's Kamehameha misses.)
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Huh, so it's basically more power but less control.
Also, you could probably do both eye colors if you wanted to, as a possible way to tell which level of Berserk the person is using; cyan for normal Berserk and yellow if harnessing Ozaru's power. Granted, getting to the point where the eyes are visible would be the hard part, especially for Broli's enhanced Super Saiyan Berserk, but it would be a viable design decision.
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