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The-Devils-Corpse In reply to ??? [2023-03-27 18:38:38 +0000 UTC]

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The-Devils-Corpse In reply to GK-Ghima [2017-11-19 00:31:37 +0000 UTC]

No. He doesn't have any spikes. The back is very similar to the front's design, just without the purple jewel in the center.

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GK-Ghima In reply to The-Devils-Corpse [2017-11-19 05:10:54 +0000 UTC]

Cool. I really like the design; definitely better than just putting on pants and taking off his shoulder pads. Shame he never uses it.

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The-Devils-Corpse In reply to Apope1999 [2016-04-18 21:34:44 +0000 UTC]

No.

Cold's form is horrible. I already disliked Multiverse, but kept following it because it had pretty good art. This is too much though. I've stopped following it and I'm erasing it from my memories.

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Apope1999 In reply to The-Devils-Corpse [2016-04-20 12:41:30 +0000 UTC]

Aw, c'mon, why?

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The-Devils-Corpse In reply to Apope1999 [2016-04-20 12:47:01 +0000 UTC]

Because it legitimately looks like shit.

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Apope1999 In reply to The-Devils-Corpse [2016-04-21 16:05:58 +0000 UTC]

Aw, tastes...

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UberDarkGuardian In reply to Apope1999 [2016-05-14 15:49:50 +0000 UTC]

King's "Super" evolution and then "taking it a step further" was awful. Legitimately awful. The first transformation was expected, looked alright for the concept assuming their race can shape their transformations to an extent. But the next form... basing it off Freeza's 3rd form... magical second set of arms... it's awful.

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EuclideanMan In reply to UberDarkGuardian [2016-09-06 16:59:33 +0000 UTC]

what would you have done then?

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UberDarkGuardian In reply to EuclideanMan [2016-09-07 02:28:30 +0000 UTC]

Same thing as Xenoverse 2 giving ALL of Freeza's race the GOLDEN Ultimate evolution... FREEZA SAID HE MADE IT GOLD SPECIFICALLY. IT'S A SUPER SAIYAN ANALOGUE. You can't just... do that! It has no context for being gold then!

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UberDarkGuardian In reply to EuclideanMan [2016-09-07 02:22:12 +0000 UTC]

I would have stopped it at his Super evolution. Cold is supposed to be powerful and his Super evolution should be pretty world-ending, and the design was well done - nothing extraordinary or deviating from the norm, yes, but it still looked sharp and well executed. Adding another form both discredits his True form's power and his Super evolution's power while also being completely unoriginal and otherwise closed-minded. It goes on the basis that Freeza's races' transformations are all set in design concept when that isn't the case - Freeza distinctly states that he CREATED his restricted forms to limit his power, so only FREEZA has those distinct forms. The only time this is discredited is in Cooler's Revenge which is not part of the set canon. So interpreting their Super evolution to be an analogue for Freeza's second form and this Super(x2) evolution as an analogue for Freeza's 3rd form is dumb at best. Freeza's Super evolution was great for that exact reason - it deviated from the norm. Many people have Cooler's design as the set interpretation for the Super evolution but Freeza's design ended up being not a copy/paste, and Cold's Super evolution was more grand than Cooler's but still a similar design which again is logical.

It's the same as their using every Super Saiyan increment as a x10 (so x10, x100 and x1000). That's great and all, but you are destroying the canon, which they strove to emulate to an extent (and also WAY blew SSJ3 out of proportion in turn). That and having the human's (I forget what universe) use Kaio-ken but never giving a multiplier - completely discrediting the power of the humans of that universe. They want to tell a solid story but solid stuff on a wonky table will nonetheless collapse.

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The-Devils-Corpse In reply to Darkton93 [2016-04-17 06:35:35 +0000 UTC]

He'll unexpectedly unlock the Super Evolution almost immediately after he starts training. He's not sure if it's enough or not, but continues to train for the time period he originally suggested and unlocks the Ultimate Evolution shortly before going to Earth. Once there, in the midst of battle, he decides that his Super form may give him the edge against base Goku, but there's no point drawing the battle out like on Namek. So they both transform like in the film, with Freeza skipping straight to gold.

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The-Devils-Corpse In reply to Whiffleboy18 [2016-01-13 20:43:50 +0000 UTC]

For Freeza, I used Vegeta as a rough scale in the manga. His true form was close to Vegeta's in height, but his first form was a bit shorter. Granted my charts aren't necessarily perfect, but the art in the franchise isn't exactly consistent either (as you kinda noted).

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Whiffleboy18 In reply to The-Devils-Corpse [2016-04-11 05:48:30 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, that's absolutely true regarding a character's height in dbz and Frieza is a prime example.  Some of the official dbz artwork depicts Frieza as being just above Goku's waist and other artwork depicts him just below Goku's shoulders. What the heck?

Another inconsistent character when it comes to their height is Fat Buu, in some cases he's way taller then Piccolo and other cases he's shorter then Mr. Satan.

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The-Devils-Corpse In reply to StudiosDB-NewProyect [2015-11-23 19:28:17 +0000 UTC]

I suppose people see what they want to see.

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The-Devils-Corpse In reply to Nassif9000 [2015-10-21 23:44:46 +0000 UTC]

They're all mutants of the same family line, so why not, I guess? Though I suppose I'd make Freeza the only real "prodigy" to be able to do it in such a short period.

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Nassif9000 In reply to The-Devils-Corpse [2015-10-22 17:10:08 +0000 UTC]

mhm
though how would you scale their powers?
i mean chilled seems to be the weakest (mostly because he got rekt by ssj bardock, and he doesn't have any as-of-yet forms)
cold seems to be as strong as frieza in his 2nd restricted form. and cooler is only stronger than both in his super evolved state.
where would you put the mutation to be? would it have started with chilled and just evolved to be more powerful with cold but somehow became weaker with both cooler and frieza (apart from frieza being quite the prodigy himself)?

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The-Devils-Corpse In reply to Nassif9000 [2015-10-22 22:54:59 +0000 UTC]

Hmm. I described the mutation on one of the respective character's chart(s), but this is probably more in-depth (below). I also did the battle power lists not too long ago (also below). All their first chronological appearances are their natural powers, without training (prior to "F" of course). Through the characters we know, Chilled's generation to Kurieza's, the mutation generally gets stronger each time it is passed down. Though Freeza is the rare prodigy, so he's the strongest. Not sure if the gene will weaken by DBO or not...Probably will. I need to kinda keep the Heroes avatar character's powers in the same realm.
Raiokutian descendants with Chilled's mutation encase themself inside a crystalline cocoon shortly after their birth. They enter into a hibernative state that allows them to remain protected as their natural armor hardens. The time spent in this state is often a good indicator of the child's natural power. Their cocoon's durability varies by individual, but usually scales according to the specimen's potential. Those that spend long periods inside usually will have a larger power, needed to break free of a dense shell. Though, there can be instances of those with weaker shells being poor at gathering the energy needed to break free.

DBR Battle Powers... Part 1 (To Freeza)
DBR Battle Powers... Part 2 (To Janenba)
DBR Battle Powers... Part 3 (To Yi Xing Long)

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Nassif9000 In reply to The-Devils-Corpse [2015-10-23 06:20:22 +0000 UTC]

alright, guess that explains everything. thanks!

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The-Devils-Corpse In reply to BlazingBarrager [2015-10-21 02:18:16 +0000 UTC]

No. I love that mask, but pretty much every other fan art rendition gives it to him and I didn't want to follow suit.

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BlazingBarrager In reply to The-Devils-Corpse [2015-10-21 02:48:10 +0000 UTC]

Ah. Makes sense.

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The-Devils-Corpse In reply to UltraChaser [2015-10-20 23:12:29 +0000 UTC]

The project includes a lot of what-if transformations from video games and the like. Shin Budokai 2 has Freeza obtain the same type of transformation as Coola ("Super Evolution"), but doesn't show the design. So I made up my own, based on a Freeza Army insignia in Dragon Ball Online.

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UltraChaser In reply to The-Devils-Corpse [2015-10-20 23:25:32 +0000 UTC]

Ok, thanks, I didn't know that

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UltraChaser In reply to The-Devils-Corpse [2015-10-20 23:25:27 +0000 UTC]

Ok, thanks, I didn't know that

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The-Devils-Corpse In reply to Gfan1 [2015-10-22 14:12:45 +0000 UTC]

I suppose there could have been a nice contrast of theme if Freeza's new, powerful transformation was complicated, and Goku's evolution was much simpler. Though, while different, I'd argue it still works just as well with Freeza almost literally trying to make himself a Super Saiyan, color and all.

Anyway, I'm glad someone likes it. I'm moderately fond of it myself, but I'm not sure I'd say I prefer it over his actual new power up. Don't get me wrong,  the color scheme on Golden Freeza is still pretty hideous in my eyes,. It's been around long enough though that I've grown used to it and even actually like it, in that "so bad, it's good" kind of way. Especially when he's drawn on model and the gold isn't made to look all that shiny.

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LordMisfit In reply to Gfan1 [2015-10-20 23:01:05 +0000 UTC]

Makes me kinda wish there was a "Golden Super Evolution" form for this.

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