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Published: 2015-12-14 16:51:34 +0000 UTC; Views: 1210; Favourites: 29; Downloads: 0
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I have no idea who would dare to model this in real life, but in the game, it's wonderful to simulate unpainted model trains.For those wondering why you would simulate a model, I reference you to the fact that no Stevens 4-6-0s exist in HO scale, and they probably never will, until some insane CP fan with too much time on his or her hands decides to give it a shot.
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Cool! I see you also gave it a sand dome. Neat. Say, for how long where the Central Pacific 4-6-0s in service?
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Not so much that this is with a sand dome - you may note that it also has a different steam dome, tender and boiler. This is one of the earlier models, when Stevens still used his iconic 1870s fluted domes(you will note these are the same type used on Mastodon and El Gobernador). This is the second #19, whereas the earlier render was the more modern second #177.
The CP 4-6-0s were in service for some time - I believe SP started buying them in the 1890s. They were heavily modified for SP and worked at least into the 1910s or 1920s. They were surprisingly modern, with double valves, a variant of the Walschaerts gear and tenders allowing them to reach very high speed, so like a lot of Stevens' locos, they lasted a good forty-or-so years in general.
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I see. Also I saw a photograph of one with a steel cab. When did they start adding steel cabs to locomotives? 1900s or eariler?
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Not sure, I'd assume 1902 since that's when most engines seem to have been shopped with knuckle couplers, and I've never seen one with a steel cab and link-and-pin couplers.
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I see. Also, is there a date of when this engine will be out?
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Haven't the foggiest. Depends how paintwork goes, when all the features are properly in place and when the site admin can put up a release.
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Well, I have to confess, I'd certainly give it a shot if I felt my own model buidling skills could handle it. I've always LOVED Central Pacific locomotives. Especially their 4-8-0s. And I have a certain attraction to their ridiculous 4-10-0 "El Gobernador"!
Sadly my modeling techniques are more like intensive kitbashing than scratch building. Perhaps one day I could build a locomotive from absolute scratch and those CP engines would be high on my list!
Still, even a "brass" version in Trainz is pretty cool, though I can't wait to see a fully painted one! What were the prototypical colors of the CP at that point in time? My imagination thinks of the Juptier's blue & red colors, which I think would still look appealing on this loco. But at the same time I'm curious about their prototypical color schemes.
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Heh, indeed. You might look at this, or if you want a simpler build, one of their 4-4-0s based on 173. There is a book that I really should get about Dayton that goes fairly in-depth into the history of the first ten Stevens-built locomotives, with some of the best diagrams I've ever seen. Note that the later renders include the bent frame that exists on the real Dayton to this day! Additionally there is a gorgeous render of that engine as she would've appeared right out of the Sacramento shops...
...and if you want a good dual-purpose model, Columbus and Dayton were "tested" for a good two months on revenue service in the Central Valley before being delivered to the V&T.
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Sounds like something I'd be interested in myself. I also appreciate the CP 173 and for a multitude of reasons. But I've always been drawn to the CP 4-6-0s and more so their 4-8-0s! They're elegant and brawny all at the same time! That and I love 4-8-0s in general.
I've actually started making a drawing of a freelance 2-10-0, however I'm having trouble with the overall cosmetic of it. I don't mind throwing in some CP style flair, but I don't want it to be blatant either.
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Heh. You might look at some of the later CP stock from the 1890s for inspiration, even the later 4-8-0s that had, unfortunately, rather less style. They still had quite a unique appearance and I think they'd better fit a 2-10-0 design. If you want to go full Stevens, however, it's always better to have a 4-wheel lead truck.
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I've found several photos of the more modern 4-6-0s, which later became SP locomotives, with wagon top boilers and rounded domes. And funny enough they weren't too far off from the Tyco/Mantua models that used to be produced. I have one lettered for the CP, but I'd like to find just the body shells and bash my own 4-8-0s and 2-10-0s from that.
I've used a wagon top boiler for my design and it doesn't look too bad, it's just trying to keep the "1880s" look to it that is the concern. Although a freelance CP 2-10-0 could look pretty darn cool. But one thing I am committed to doing is using a 3 axle trailing truck on the tender.
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And they say brass models are un-prototypical...
This model looks great though! Blender?
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Yes, as always. Though I would love to work with Solidworks more through school... But I don't have the schedule space for CAD classes.
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I know that feeling. There's a class you desperately want and would enjoy, but you can't take it.
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