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Published: 2016-09-08 16:18:13 +0000 UTC; Views: 6805; Favourites: 29; Downloads: 16
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I felt like the last few pages had a bit to much wasted space, plus I want to increase the comic's "efficacy" in general (not to RUSH it, or anything - just make sure I'm telling as much story as I can per page). This page, for instance, was actually TWO when I originally scripted it but I managed to do it in one and I don't think it's too crowded.Β <---Previous. Next--->
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Lunar-Lotus [2023-10-14 12:43:10 +0000 UTC]
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SimulatorFantastic90 [2022-04-27 02:32:58 +0000 UTC]
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Vederick In reply to RebelMightyena [2016-09-11 22:11:01 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much! I'll do my best
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Square-Watermelon [2016-09-08 17:16:08 +0000 UTC]
OMG!! this is so exciting!! I love this so much X)))
and I LOOOVE seeing Delete as a good guy now XDD when I was a kid, I always wondered why he was a bad guy, note he was so nice X3
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SimulatorFantastic90 In reply to Square-Watermelon [2022-04-27 02:34:07 +0000 UTC]
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Vederick In reply to Square-Watermelon [2016-09-08 21:24:33 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I find a lot of fans seem to feel that way.
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SimulatorFantastic90 In reply to Vederick [2022-04-27 02:34:36 +0000 UTC]
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Square-Watermelon In reply to Vederick [2016-09-08 21:32:49 +0000 UTC]
YES. ^^ he was my fave XDΒ
and the first someone I fell in love with XDDΒ
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UniversesCollideInc [2016-09-08 16:28:43 +0000 UTC]
As fun and interesting as the last page was, it did seem to have wasted space while this one is more balanced.
On another note, Slider, I don't care how little you know Shari or what your hero complex is telling you. Delete doesn't have any more reason to want to sabotage your side after what Hacker did to him; weren't you saying it was a wonder he wasn't dead when you were trying to fix him earlier?
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Vederick In reply to UniversesCollideInc [2016-09-08 17:02:58 +0000 UTC]
Like Raymond Reddington said when asked why HE would save someone he'd otherwise consider an enemy:
"Because that's what you do when someone is dying in front of you."
(I may not be remembering it exactly right but that was the gist and I don't feel like looking it up )
Because of what happened with his Dad, Slider has a bigger chip on his shoulder with regards to Hacker (& company) than most others. Not that he saved Delete on a whim, rather it's that his first instinct was to help first and ask questions later.Β
...and now it's later.
It's not necessarily that he thinks Delete still has any loyalty to Hacker, but rather that he shouldn't get too much 'credit' for -Β as far as Slider's concerned - essentially just puttingΒ on a tie.
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UniversesCollideInc In reply to Vederick [2016-09-08 18:06:47 +0000 UTC]
True enough on all accounts. Though...was Delete involved in the whole mess with Coop? I know he was involved in the stuff after the Squad showed up but not sure about before. Not that it would excuse working with Hacker (and it would seem Delete is well-aware of that) but if Delete wasn't involved, transferring said chip from Hacker to someone who is connected to Hacker but not to that event would fall under Misblaming. Understandable but not really helpful in team dynamics.
And more proof that the easiest way to fray a team, especially a new one, is have communication have to be a premium. Because since Creech doesn't know all the details, she's not reacting properly anymore. Between that and Shari's easy acceptance of Delete, we might be in for something unpleasant that we don't have time for.
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Vederick In reply to UniversesCollideInc [2016-09-08 21:22:42 +0000 UTC]
When preparing some of the more intricate elements to my story I had to re-watch those episodes to pick up key facts (that resulted in me having to alter some things accordingly). So no; according the 'Timeline of Cyberspace' that I've so far been able to establish Delete wouldn't have been around then, since in the comic that was online when Cyberchase premiered it was shown that the creation of Buzz and Delete must've taken place at some point after Hacker's initial exile since they weren't there with him when he'd already taken his 'modern' form and Marbles exiled him, whereas in the flashback with Coop he was still slender (so you're right, they wouldn't have had anything to do with it).
I feel it's most likely that they were made shortly BEFORE his return in the first episode since at THAT time Marbles said that they hadn't heard from him since his banishment "eons ago", and Buzz and Delete just don't seem 'eons' old to me (or at least I didn't want them to be in MY story and the established canon left room for them not to have to be).
After for your character interpretation you're hitting the nail as per usual, Slider's really letting his "kid" show here - I'm sure he thinks he's being objective (what with Delete being their best lead to finding Hacker) but this is a flies/honey situation if I ever saw one, dude
As for Shari; remember she's the "smart" one, but I'm also aiming to make her a bit craftier than Inez. Don't want to spoil but basically she knows what she's doing here
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UniversesCollideInc In reply to Vederick [2016-09-09 00:22:28 +0000 UTC]
Makes sense; it's always handy to have a time-line arranged when writing fanfics and it's always nice when canon is flexible enough to accommodate you to any extent.
Interestingly they all seem to be channeling their counterparts here (as Creech and Slider's argument definitely sounds like one Inez and Matt could have; Creech seems to be more Inez's counterpart though I do agree she and Shari both combine elements of both girls while still being their own characters) but are occupying different places in the Freudian Trio with Slider as the Spock, Creech as the McCoy and Shari as the Kirk (compared to the Squad's standard arrangement of Matt/Kirk, Inez/Spock and Jackie/McCoy, though they can switch, especially when Matt is fighting with one of the girls).
Objectivity is hard when you're already upset and Slider most definitely is here, with good reason.Β I find it ironic that Slider is generally considered to be very easy-going by the fanbase but if you look closely at his behavior, even in canon, he's not really good at doing "honey" as you put unless you're already someone he trusts, with the prime example being his introduction episode (I keep coming back to that but it says so much about him in retrospect). Also, while it doesn't come up much, he gets extremely upset if someone he's put his trust in pushes his buttons, ALA the episode where he and Matt mend their bridges but not after spending a good bit of the episode arguing about who should do which of the triathlon events; Matt is someone he likes and has a fair bit of respect for (something you touch only briefly but effectively in this comic) so when he started acting as the rival (which was how Matt saw himself), it was hurtful and prompted Slider to lash out. Here he's slightly more in control but still lashing out and until Shari cut in, there was no one to play peacemaker since Creech wasn't interested in that by that point and he wouldn't have listened to Delete. Ironically, despite the fact that it's acting as a bit of a stumbling block, this is probably actually healthy for Slider since he doesn't need to be as mature anymore (even in this fragile situation; he's not alone and Creech and Shari make good back up) but after all the years he spent needing to be, he doesn't really know how to be a kid anymore. Cyberspace being what it is probably doesn't help matters either.
And I trust that Shari knows what she's doing (Inez only really does crafty when Matt's her target; she's much more straightforward than her teammates). Slider just might not like it.
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Vederick In reply to UniversesCollideInc [2016-09-09 02:35:21 +0000 UTC]
I'm aware of the Freudian types but I don't think of them too often because I don't like to over-simplify people; not that that's what it's for or that's what I think you're doing, but I'm always fearful that if I use Freud theory too strictly my characters may be 'familiar' but end up bland and lack uniqueness.
And that's not a dig at Freud or anything; I know personalities come in "types" and behavior can be predicted to a degree, I just don't feel like getting into that much psychology right now.
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UniversesCollideInc In reply to Vederick [2016-09-09 11:46:46 +0000 UTC]
Not a problem; I get what you're saying. There's a fine balance between "familiar" and "bland" and it's easier to strike it if you focus on the character in question as they fit into their world rather than how they'd fit into ours. You do a good job of that and it makes the characters more nuanced than they are in canon, which is saying something since even background characters in "Cyberchase" are far from flat.
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