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Sol-Caninus [2015-02-11 20:44:16 +0000 UTC]

top panel looks very self-consciously contained.  It has an unnatural sense of compression - like when you're drawing a figure and you keep shortening it as you go down to make the feet fit on the page.  It seems to me this is mirrored or at least reinforced by the second panel.  The design in the second panel is too close to the design of the panel, which throws off the perspective.  For example, the diagonal border reads as an edge of the window pane, which is not exactly suited to the perspective, but is close enough to make it look off.  One effect is that it makes the top near part of the vertical panel look smaller than the bottom far part.  (Or maybe it actually is smaller, which means the perspective actually is off, which compounds the problem.)

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VinceAndrews In reply to Sol-Caninus [2015-02-11 22:51:27 +0000 UTC]

the diagonal border is the edge of the window pane. i drew the bottom panel in isometric perspective and all the math is right, but it does look wrong for some reason. i don't know why, there's probably some optical illusion caused by the surrounding angles i chose.

and yeah the top of the ship should be a lot wider, that would probably help the first panel a lot

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Sol-Caninus In reply to VinceAndrews [2015-02-11 23:30:11 +0000 UTC]

I'm not sure what you mean by iso-metric perspective.  As far as I know there is no such thing.  If you drew the lines isometrically and the subject matter they represent is not viewed in parallel perspective (which it is not, it's a down shot, so oblique - requiring at least 3 vanishing points), then it is not in perspective.   

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VinceAndrews In reply to Sol-Caninus [2015-02-11 23:44:16 +0000 UTC]

www.google.com/search?q=isomet…

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Sol-Caninus In reply to VinceAndrews [2015-02-11 23:56:16 +0000 UTC]

You proved my point.  This is isometric projection.  It is not a form of perspective but a typical manner of distorting perspective, as when lazy illustrators use parallel perspective out of context to create a quick and dirty facsimile of angular perspective.  

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VinceAndrews In reply to Sol-Caninus [2015-02-12 00:28:32 +0000 UTC]

Whatever you want to call it, it's a cool technique in the right application. It obviously didn't work so well here, I'll have to keep that in mind in the future

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Sol-Caninus In reply to VinceAndrews [2015-02-12 01:24:50 +0000 UTC]

Anything can work in the hands of a master.  First comes study and practice, then comes mastery.  
This particular technique is used in technical drawing, because, while it distorts perspective it does so in a way that makes the subject matter easy to read as a schematic.  Unfortunately, the impressions are so strong that uninformed illustrators adopt the method in place of perspective - or rather, they confuse it with perspective.  And then, as i said, the lazy jump on the band wagon for their own reason.  LOL.  

I don't care who does what for their own purpose.  Look at cubism.  But their is no confusion or lack of knowledge and skill in those decisions.

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VinceAndrews In reply to Sol-Caninus [2015-02-12 05:41:01 +0000 UTC]

Well I'm not a master, and I'd like to say I'm not lazy, but when you're getting close to finishing a comic it's hard to slow down and redraw a whole page. I'm trying not to rush chapter 3 so hopefully I'll make less mistakes

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Sol-Caninus In reply to VinceAndrews [2015-02-12 15:04:21 +0000 UTC]

LOL!  I wouldn't dream of telling you how to do what you do. I would attempt to undermine any excuse for lowering standards and doing it poorly.  Granted, Rome wasn't built in a day.  And when you're doing the planning, the building, and the skill training all at the same time, there is pressure to do it.  

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