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Disclaimer: This is meant as a reference for my alternate reality comic "Shadowless".Although most of the vehicles existed in real life, a lot of the details have been changed.
Had the lineart to this drawing lying unfinished on my hard disk since '12, coloured it last year and added a few more vehicles a couple of months ago. Finally, it's finished...
Download for full view.
Follow-up to this.
The typology of the Renault FT light tank, as used by the Second French Empire during the Great War against the British Imperial Federation, 1899 to 1907.
After the first months of the conflict showed the operational limitations of armoured cars for close infantry support, the French High Command ordered the development of a light two man tank capable of accompanying the troops through terrain churned up by artillery.
Unfortunately, like it was the case with the first French tanks, the Schneider Ca1 and St.Chamond, corporate rivalry had it's say again, with the two main firms contracted for the job, "Renault SA" and "Société Anonyme des Automobiles Peugeot" each coming with it's own twist on the army approved prototype. The Renault machine, known as the "Renault FT" after the factory's internal prototype combination code, was initially armed with a 8 mm Hotchkiss Mle 1900 machine-gun in a cast turret with 360 degrees of rotation, while Peugeot went with a the same 75mm Blockhaus Schneider howitzer as the Schneider CA1 in a fixed casemate and a slightly improved suspension.
Weighing in at 6 tons each, equipped with the same 4 cylinder 39HP engine providing a speed of 12km/h, both tanks proved highly successful in combat, but it was the Renault vehicle, with its innovative layout, that would become the classic.
After the initial success, it was decided to equip the tank with 37mm Puteaux SA (semi-automatic) for close in infantry support, since, although the Peugeot machine, with it's 75mm howitzer, was very effective against pillboxes, the lack of turret meant it was ill suited for the latter role.
Although originally fitted in the small cast turret of the machinegun armed version, it was soon discovered that space was insufficient to accommodate the the 37mm SA without severely hampering the reload procedure, so by mid-1902 a larger cast and rolled turret called "tourelle omnibus" was ordered into production which was able to accommodate the larger weapon.
The new turret was produced by a number of different firms, most notably "Aciéries Paul Girod d'Ugine" but also "Delaunay-Belleville" and "Berliet et Cie", but delays in production due to the labour intensive casting led to the development by Renault, later in the year, of a second, even easier to construct, octagonal turret made in-house from bolted armour plates in order to expedite deliveries. For the same purpose production of the tank was also started at "Delaunay-Belleville", "Berliet et Cie" and "Schneider" but the bulk of production still rested with Renault, with a staggering 2000 tanks manufactured until the end of the conflict (as opposed to 281, 801 and 600 made by the aforementioned factories and a further 200 produced by Peugeot later in the war.)
About the same time, a revolutionary weapon was produced the "Société Anonyme des Anciens Etablissements Hotchkiss et Cie"which was a 25mm high velocity cannon for use in armoured cars which relied on the speed of the projectile to defeat armour. Since the latter were proving less reliable and able to traverse rough terrain than the new Renault tanks, the decision was taken to add this weapon to the arsenal of the FT, so 25mm armed versions rolled off the production lines alongside the machinegun and 37mm armed models.
One of the lessons learned during the ferocious fighting of 1904 which culminated in the French Army's retreat to the Sarthe was the need for a mobile radiotelegraph post to both keep contact with HQ and keep up with the troops. Initially TSF cars were used, but, as they proved to lack both in the terrain crossing and protection departments, the decision was taken to modify existing FT hulls and build a specialist "signals" vehicle. Unlike the regular FT, the Renault FT TSF had a crew of three, but no armement. Insted the space was taken by radio telegraph equipment (not only was voice radio too bulky, but the noisy interior of the FT was also poorly suited for voice transmission) in a fixed casemate, with a telescopic antenna mast situated on the engine deck.
Another lesson was the fact that tank-on-tank engagements were becoming routine and the FT was severely underarmed when compared to the British "rhomboidal tanks" such as the Mark IV and the Medium Mark A "Whippet". Inded, during the British Summer Offensive of 1904 around five FTs were lost for each British tank destroyed.
Because of this, the Ministry of War decided to commission Renault to upgrade the FT in terms of armament, protection and mobility.
To this end, the "Atelier de Puteaux" produced an improved version of their 37mm gun with a redesigned breech and significantly longer barrel called "Puteaux 37mm TRP (tir rapide)". It boasted faster firing, vastly improved muzzle velocities and armour piercing ability, and, in conjunction with a new, specialist APEX steel-core explosive round, it essentially supplanted the 25mm SAL in the antitank role, since the latter weapon, despite being able to penetrate most British tanks lacked "punch" due to the modest weight of the projectile.
To improve crew protection, Berliet provided some slight changes to the tanks it was producing by introducing an extra 5mm thick mask located in front of the mantlet, reconfiguring the driver's side plates and vision slits as well as other minor tweaks, but these modifications were not adopted by the other manufacturers and indeed remained a particularity of the tanks produced by this manufacturer.
At he same time Renault changed the suspension of its FT model to improve cross country performance, giving birth to the Renault NC, a fast infantry support tank with a maximum speed of 18.5km/h provided by it's 62HP engine located in a redesigned and lengthened rear compartment.
The Renault NC was initially equipped with the standard FT "omnibus" turret, both round and octagonal versions, and used all the weapons available to it's predecessor, but an improved turret was a also designed by Schneider in order to mount both a cannon and machinegun, a revolutionary idea at the time. This turret, named ST1 (Schneider Tourelle-1) was equipped with vision blocks instead of simple viewing slits and could also accommodate a bigger 47mm gun (a shortened version of the marine M1892) instead of the 37mm SA and TRP and coupled it with a Hotchkiss 8mm MG, yet for all it's advanced features it was very unpopular with crews owing to the cramped interior and strange contortions one was required to undertake to service both the cannon and the machinegun.
Nonetheless, it was put into series production and used alongside the earlier versions for the rest of the war, on both the Renault NC and FT.
In fact, one could say that the late war procurement and equipment of tanks was haphazard and hectic, with the Renault FT being supplanted by the NC at the Renault factory, while Berliet, Delaunay-Belleville and Schneider maintained the former in production right up to the end of the conflict. At the same time all tanks coming off the production lines were equipped with turrets and weaponry in accordance to whatever was available at any given moment, which meant that a brand new NC could be fitted with an "omnibus" turret armed with a short barrelled 37mm gun while an older FT undergoing repair and refurbishment work could find itself rearmed with a ST1 turret and a 47mm cannon. Since the turrets and many parts were interchangeable even between the FT and the NC one can find a bedazzling array of variations and, in some cases, even field modifications.
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Another measure that was taken was to create the Renault FT AC (anti-char) a specialist "tank hunter" vehicle by replacing the turret of existing FTs with an open superstructure with a pedestal-mounted 47mm/ L40 Hotchkiss Mle.1902 naval gun, which made it a truly fearsome opponent when used in an ambush role, as it could punch with ease through the British tanks' 12 mm of armour at a range of almost 3000 meters.
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From the start there was bad blood between Renault and Peugeot, with Renault trying to replace the Peugeot BS with it's own vehicle mounting the 75mm Blockhaus Schneider short barrelled howitzer.
Unfortunately for them, the first prototype, "Canon autotracte Blockhaus Schneider" fared poorly in trials against the Peugeot machine because it had the gun mounted low in the hull, the driver perched on top of the engine deck and bad cross-country characteristics due to its high centre of gravity.
By mid-1905, however, with the help of some adroit political manoeuvres at the Ministry of Defence, and using part standardisation as an excuse, Renault finally managed to get the Peugeot tank replaced with it's own FT 75 BS, a variant with the gun in a more conventional fixed casemate which had performance equal to the Peugeot BS.
Peugeot was relegated to building armoured cars until they relented and bought the "FT BS" licence from Renault.
When it comes to prototypes, Renault also tried to implement the new and exciting idea of stroboscopic machine gun mask and cupola, as used on the Char 2C super heavy tank, but, unfortunately, these systems proved to be costly, unreliable and easily damaged.
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In terms of painting, the first French tanks of 1900-1902 were painted in "gris artillerie" a type of light blue-gray common to all the artillery equipment, but very soon the advantages of camouflage became apparent and most tank commanders opted to paint their machines in in an assortment of colours in an attempt to minimise visibility, although the smaller tanks retained their factory liveries or were painted in a dark olive green called "vert armée" which was standard to some infantry equipment such as field kitchens.
By the early 1903, spurred by a number of friendly fire incidents (the army was operating a number of captured British Mark I and II to supplement it's own stock of largely ineffective machines) the French Army High Command ordered a unified scheme of camouflage and tactical markings to be adopted.
Although the actual design was still the whim of the tank commander, the machines were to be painted in only three colours, tan, light brown and medium green (to ease logistics, the vehicles came off the production line painted in the latter) with dividing lines of darker brown while in the winter a special mix of tan with two tones of blue-grey was to be applied. In reality though, a lot of tank crews preferred to whitewash their vehicles rather than repaint them. Later, owing again to stock availability, other colours were added to the mix, such as a brick-dust red, ochre, light olive-green and coal grey for the dividing lines, all of which were also standard camouflage for artillery equipment.
Also about the same time, a new set of tactical markings was introduced to maximise cooperation between individual tanks before the advent of vehicle portable radio sets.
The new system used aces to identify the platoons or troops in the bridge playing order (Spade, Heart, Diamond and Club) while differing colours were used to identify different units. The company or squadron commander's vehicle was identified by displaying all four aces in the company or squadron colour.
The same system was later applied to flying ships.
Throughout the whole conflict, the national insignia was prominently displayed on the sides of the vehicles and a white serial of five alphanumeric characters which was often supplemented with the individual vehicle number in the platoon/company represented by large numbers in either white, red or black, in a style and size determined company level.
Personal insignia were also very much in evidence, with certain vehicles bearing names of historical French Provinces or towns as well as fictional and historical characters, uplifting slogans etc.
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Comments: 42
Torpid17 [2021-07-21 03:41:57 +0000 UTC]
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wingsofwrath In reply to Konstalieri [2018-09-01 16:19:52 +0000 UTC]
I'm... not exactly sure what you mean by that comment.
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Konstalieri In reply to wingsofwrath [2018-09-01 17:24:25 +0000 UTC]
What i meant is that this look like a hearts of iron 4 tech tree, you know were to get better tech you need to research this small tank in order to get to a Medium Tank or you need to reseach atomic reseach in order to get nukes, find search complete, find search complete and find search complete, you see what am saying pal.
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Arklyte84826 [2018-02-19 13:59:08 +0000 UTC]
A pity that you have only AU comic version here, this picture(with proper info and years) belongs to high quality tank history encyclopedia
Anyway the work is top notch
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manchild70 [2017-10-13 04:35:18 +0000 UTC]
I really like the FT17 with the larger Schnider turret, featuring both cannon and mitrailluse. Is there a real life example of this turret ever fitted to the FT17? Where can I see good images?
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wingsofwrath In reply to manchild70 [2017-10-15 00:14:58 +0000 UTC]
Here you go, that's the only image that exists of the ST1 turret fitted to the Renault FT. Site is in Russian, but the photo is the interesting bit:
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manchild70 In reply to wingsofwrath [2017-10-15 22:19:11 +0000 UTC]
Thanks. That's really cool. Do you know anything more about this one tank?
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manchild70 [2017-10-13 04:20:46 +0000 UTC]
There are yet so many more varying types of this grandfather of all modern tanks that a person could iclude - one could spend alot of time . . .
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wingsofwrath In reply to arcane37 [2017-05-22 13:14:21 +0000 UTC]
Because I dislike the Kegresse system and, in any case, it proved far inferior to the NC1, which is present in the drawing.
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arcane37 In reply to wingsofwrath [2017-05-22 22:02:29 +0000 UTC]
Aww but I thought it look cool. I don't I probably like it because of my love for large wheels on tanks also did you get my notes?
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Chickenus [2016-08-25 15:59:19 +0000 UTC]
Why was there a need in this timeline to have tanks so early?
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wingsofwrath In reply to Chickenus [2016-08-28 15:43:21 +0000 UTC]
Simply because the war started earlier.
After all, it was the unpassable quagmire of the Western front which created the need for tanks to exist in our world, so the same unpassable quagmire in a different place in France years earlier would give rise to the same need.
Also, let's not forget that the first tank ever, the "Burstyn Motorgeschutz", was invented in 1911 but nobody wanted it because nobody saw the need for it at at that point, despite it being a more advanced design than some of the tanks that were actually fielded later, during the war...
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PivotShadow In reply to FuryofthePeople [2016-03-04 10:25:22 +0000 UTC]
In France, I believe. England launched a surprise invasion at the beginning of the war, but didn't get very far before it bogged down into trench warfare.
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PolishTrooper [2015-11-23 10:15:40 +0000 UTC]
This just became my all time favourite work ;-;
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Rajaahsani [2015-08-18 11:42:48 +0000 UTC]
Bleedy magnificent!
Having modelled the FT before i'm quite familiar with the cast and polygonal turret, as well as the TSF, BS, and AC variant
but i'm quite new to the Peugeot BS and Cannon autotracte BS, may i ask where i can find reference material for both tanks please? i'd like to do them in miniatures, maybe with some scratchbuilding and kit bashing
The stroboscopic mask is kinda neat as well, i've seen the stroboscopic cupola on FCM 2C before but not in FT, let alone fitted as mask, combine with machine gun in its centerline it's gonna be a maintenance nightmare
Artwork-wise, again i'd say magnificent, you put a lot of details in such small drawing, i love how you draw the suspensions and differing guns, even the wooden sprocket on early FT and the metal on the later! great job!
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wingsofwrath In reply to Rajaahsani [2015-08-18 15:55:28 +0000 UTC]
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed them. I might put larger version of the images online, just so you can see the detail better.
When it comes to the Renault FT prototypes, unfortunately, most of the references I found are in the French language. For me that is not a problem, since I am fluent, but I have no idea wherever you speak it as well, so I'm trying to find you English language or at least bilingual references. The best one would be this little publication.
Also, be advised that I played a bit with history. While most of the FT variants depicted are factual in the simple sense they actually existed at one point in time, I took some liberties with the names /description of the variants.
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For example, in real life the "Peugeot BS" was called “Char d’accompagnement amélioré à canon de 75S Peugeot” or simply "Char Peugeot " and was made in late 1918 as an attempted improvement on the Renault FT - up to that point Peugeot had not been involved in tank development at all and they wanted in as well.
The prototype was not adopted because the war ended and the Renault FT 75 BS already existed and served exactly the same purpose, not because of any bad blood between the two car companies.
Unfortunately, there are only two pictures and a drawing that survive of the tank and nothing beyond that is known with any certainty - in fact I realised half-way through my drawing that the bulbous thing on the rear deck was actually the fuel tank and that the engine was in the front.
So far I think my drawing is the most accurate reconstruction you can find on the internet... (not exactly modest, I know XD)
Here's an article about the subject , but be advised the author is completely mistaken when he says the gun on this was 37mm - there are a few people near the bottom of the comment stack who correct him and they know what they are talking about much more than he does.
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When it comes to the "Cannon autotracte BS", that's simply a name I made up for the first prototype of the "Renault FT 75 BS', to differentiate them in my fictional timeline. Here's a thread on this particular vehicle containing a pretty good model .
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As for the other prototypes, they are covered in the book I mentioned earlier, as well as some more I didn't draw because I thought them too outlandish, her are a couple of links - a guy who modelled almost all versions (in French, but Google translate might help here) and a Russian site with good photographs , including the Renault FT with the St-1 turret and the weird stroboscopic mask on the FT.
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Oh, and a few more things - I took another liberty by renaming the real life "Tourelle Berliet", the octagonal riveted turret, as "Tourelle Renault" and calling the real life American version of the FT, the "Six ton tank" with the extra turret mask and redone driver plate, as "Berliet".
In real life the Renault NC was made in 1927 for export and never carried the ST-1 turret, which was actually made for the next step in evolution after the NC, the Renault D1/D2. It dit, however, use a the SRA prototype turret. Here's an article .
The French FTs never used the long barrel Puteaux 37 mm cannon - it was mainly used by the Finns and the Russians (preserved example in Kabul, a gift from Russia to Afghanistan) . Here is an article with most versions.
There was an attempt in the 20s to mount the FCM stroboscopic cupola on the FT, but I can't find the photo right now. It looked exactly like I drew it. Kind of daft idea anyway...
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Rajaahsani In reply to wingsofwrath [2015-08-19 10:18:19 +0000 UTC]
Woow, thanks for the quick and in depth reply, i really appreciate that!
I don't mind french literature, even though i don't speak french i always have google translate on my side! i explored the first website a litle bit and they seem to have a lot of information regarding french AFVs, the other website is interesting as well, including the guy who made most of the FT variants
Seems there's a lot of variants of FT out there, gotta collect them all!
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Ponentguy [2015-07-11 12:09:48 +0000 UTC]
This is so detailed it gibes me a headache!
This is just some amazing work.
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flaketom [2015-06-29 09:49:41 +0000 UTC]
Beautiful work! Love the effort yopu put into every detail!
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RRaillery [2015-06-27 23:13:59 +0000 UTC]
You've put a huge amount of effort into this and it definitely shows. Fantastic work!
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wingsofwrath In reply to RRaillery [2015-06-28 18:43:36 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, I'm glad you like it!
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JDunk1971 [2015-06-25 08:04:36 +0000 UTC]
I like it, especially the descriptions that follow. The only other place I've seen the FT-17 get any love in in World of Tanks.
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wingsofwrath In reply to JDunk1971 [2015-06-28 18:43:11 +0000 UTC]
Thank you!
Heh. Sort of. It's not the greatest tier I out there and the only version I truly liked was the FT AC.
Let's face it, by the time WW2 rolled around, the Renault FT was thoroughly obsolete and it shows. That Puteaux 37mm gun can't penetrate cheese, let alone other tanks, and the 25mm Hotchkiss is not much better, especially at range.
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Flying-Snake [2015-06-23 09:01:18 +0000 UTC]
Great work
We need more stuff like this here!
I like your style and love how well thought through your works are.
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wingsofwrath In reply to Flying-Snake [2015-06-28 18:34:41 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! It's always nice to see people appreciating my work.
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Willsormiston [2015-06-22 09:27:28 +0000 UTC]
It's jolly good to see you still here and working on your alternative history fiction! I always enjoy your designs!
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wingsofwrath In reply to Willsormiston [2015-06-28 18:34:11 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! I am working on them, but slowly, because, as always, I have lots of other projects going on.
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xSamiamrg7x [2015-06-22 03:37:05 +0000 UTC]
There's an old American-model Renault at a museum near where I live. The curators have said that they want to try and get it running. It would be amazing to see that! It would almost be like seeing a living relic.
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wingsofwrath In reply to xSamiamrg7x [2015-06-28 18:33:26 +0000 UTC]
Ah, the good ol' M1917 light tank, or "six ton", the American licensed copy of the Renault FT. The differences lie in the engine, turret which is polygonal only (no cast Girod turret on the American tanks) with a revised mantlet with an extra plate, exhaust which is on the left hand side instead of on the right, all-steel idler wheels instead of the steel-rimmed wooden ones of the FT, revised driver's side plates with extra vision slits and having them higher to accommodate American servicemen which tended to be taller.
On this chart I used some of the M1917 characteristics (namely revised driver's side plates and modified mantlet with an extra plate) for the so-called "Berliet turret". In real life the "Berliet turret" was actually the name of the polygonal turret, but I changed this for the Shadowless canon.
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Daxtered [2015-06-21 22:31:05 +0000 UTC]
I've always liked those old Renault tanks. I'm guessing the British Whippet tank makes an appearance too?
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wingsofwrath In reply to Daxtered [2015-06-28 08:11:02 +0000 UTC]
Indeed they do! In fact there's also a handy infographic that shows exactly which British tanks make an appearance .
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Texas-Red-Wolf In reply to wingsofwrath [2015-06-28 13:00:19 +0000 UTC]
Ha you actually answered. How are you doing? (Joyful tone)
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wingsofwrath In reply to Texas-Red-Wolf [2015-06-28 20:36:13 +0000 UTC]
Quite good, actually. Terribly busy though, so won't be seeing too much of DA.
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Texas-Red-Wolf In reply to wingsofwrath [2015-06-28 21:48:13 +0000 UTC]
Okay i see. Also Just to let you know i have more chapters up. (Friendly tone
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