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Published: 2015-03-14 11:51:16 +0000 UTC; Views: 30530; Favourites: 272; Downloads: 12
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UPDATE
Well if you 'Hate' something it's self personality, then that's fine too. I'm talking about other hatred.. like involving claims about people and such.
UPDATE DONE
Making claims over other people or telling them what they can and cannot like out of your own subjective mind is wrong.
Period.
The only thing I'll stand for if other people were actually hurting others. And no, saying you have 'wet dreams' for a cartoon character isn't harmful. Some people may find it gross, but it's not harmful, and they can ignore something they don't like seeing.
Also, you may noticed a lot of pony stuff on here.. Apparently, I found this stamp:
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It could be a fair argument.. But seeing comments saying "Cloppers are immature", and seeing THIS:
"I'm immature for sharing my opinion? That means that those who post stamps about how much they love the show are immature, too. Maybe if you guys weren't always in my fucking face for my opinion, I wouldn't have to say this."
from the OP was a bit... what?
I won't explain here on that quote, I'll just give a link to that comment I made instead.
And how the hell are "Cloppers" (People who fap alone involving ponies) "immature"?
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Well anyway.
I've been in a huge fight, people uploading snapshots about me, and defending very offensive opinions about others..
The guy uploaded snapshots because I stated what I believed on people's own comments about him (Mine can be argued of course, but you know).
People even call me out as a bully for standing up against an opinion that involves me.
I try to argue, and be as open and reporting as possible, and of course, people go against me with very short, subjective/biased arguments against me.
Even when I go more objective to show the meanings mean, proving that he hurts others, they still ignore me.
It's a really bad story too.. I don't want to explain the full thing.
So anyway again, people have the right to disrespect beliefs and argue them.
Some say it's "immature" for people to go rage against a public opinion that's actually insulting others..
How is it immature to react to such offensive trash? I say it's immature to insult others for who they are, what they like to do, etc, etc..
Some people's ideas behind "immature" and "opinion" can be very bad at this.
"Hey everyone, furries are faggots, and those who like that furry porn is a sick f***!" "My opinionz, respect it."
No. I will NOT respect something that insults others, and I have the right to get mad and furious about it.
There is a f****** difference between an offensive belief vs a harmless one saying "I like MLP" or "I dislike this".
It's very different.
Both subjective?
Maybe
But are they both mature or harmless because it's an opinion?
No.
That's like saying that it's OK to share an offensive opinion about a race.
Besides, isn't reacting back to an offensive opinion.. ANOTHER OPINION?
Calling them immature for being mad at your opinion and sharing there OPINION back breaks your own preach anyway.
Also, most of the MLP fandom isn't immature I think. And freaking out over an offensive opinion about bronies actually ISN'T immature.. Because the opinion about them has no respect in the first place.
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Sometimes expressing the "I like/Don't like" thing in the wrong areas can be rude too.. Not rude to dislike or like, but rude to put it in an area that's asking for it and involving something that's the focused on people who like, or dislike something.
Edit 5/22/2015 - Whoops, I think I meant to say "in an area that's not asking for it" not "in an area that's asking for it". Edit Done
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I have a feeling I forgot which template it was. Oh well, I didn't make the template part for sure.
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I feel like slapping people in the face when I see that.
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It's really fucking stupid that this is the first thing I see tagged under vore. My fetish is disgusting and wrong, but that's part of what makes it appealing to me, and I've already come to terms with that. I don't need thought police to make everyone pretend it's healthy and normal. I want people to have opinions that don't align with mine, that's what makes discussing media the least bit interesting, and none of the things you listed here offended me in the slightest.
My stance doesn't include cretins that defend their bigotry as a personal viewpoint, but I know that homophobia is far worse than someone kinkshaming me. I'm not under the delusion that my weird fantasies deserve unconditional respect.
Personally, I think it's actually quite interesting to see people that don't share my fetishes react to fetish art. Sometimes I'm on their side of the fence when I find a fetish I don't enjoy, and it's funny to put things in perspective a bit. I respect most fetishises, but I don't need sociopaths to bully strangers into thinking like I do.
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Yet what about people who also like vore who accepts themselves and respect it for themselves? I refuse to censor something that I argue is healthy and normal alone because some (regardless of having such fetish or not) are offended by it.
If you really want opinions to be different than yours, then why complain about someone who argues it's healthy and normal then?
I think kinkshaming is as bad as homophobic and isn't an "delusion" to argue it deserve unconditional respect. Naturally, it can be argued that development becomes part of you later in life. So if I for say, developed a "fetish", and it's so much that it's how I find some attractive ("fictional" or not), then it's as important as homosexual and/or heterosexual for example. And I feel like you're being hypocritical by claiming this is "thought police". I say forcing people to think a fetish is "unhealthy" and not accepting them is more to that. Forcing people to feel bad about their fetish or making them feel that it's "wrong", is very thought police and offensive, even if somehow it isn't as bad as homophobia.
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I can't follow any of this and I'm not going to bother. I like artwork and stories about people cannibalising each other. It's weird and fascinating and the community is really cool. I'm not conceited enough to think I speak for anyone but myself, but people are going to make fun of us for it then there's at least some fun to be had seeing how outsiders react to it. I just snapped at you because this condescending stamp is the first thing I see when I just want to browse some wacky fetish art and it's been getting on my nerves a bit.
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That's fine then. XD
And just to feel like I wanted to correct something if it must be correct, of course some fetishes alone (e.g. one that hurts people) are wrong.
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Even if i got a fetish that i don't want to talk about (Because if i do, the internet will witch hunt me down) and i found vore and feet fetish discusting, i still respect their sexual orientations. it's just making theri buissness and i just don't seach for those images. good grief that the're stamps like these.
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I personally really dislike fetish art, but it's just what people like I guess. Though once people post children (even if fictional) in fetish art is when I hate I and I just report it for having an underage character in it, I usually don't comment
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If people keep using the "it's for kids" excuse, does that give a person who loves animation the right to attack their opinion?
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Because there is nothing wrong with two intellectual species being happy with each other.
Especially since it's a harmless fiction.
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Magical talking horses probably can.
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Yes but it's not wrong.
Even if it's bestiality, that doesn't make it wrong because no abuse is happening.
If you are still against consenting relationships like that then I think you have a problem.
Because it's freedom. Being against consenting freedom is wrong.
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If the entire Transformers fandom had a dollar for every TRUKK NOT MUNKY joke that shows up in a chatroom.
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Do you do make these still? i need a group stamp? i need one for
what i need can be found here
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i like vore
i like pizza
i like let it go
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
the ones that are the right things that are for me
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This is a VERY long stamp, but it's still good.
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I'm a brony myself, but have no problem with those who dislike it.
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By that logic, if I say I ever hate ANYTHING, you will bash me and act rudely towards it without respecting the opinion. Nice logic.
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Did you read the whole thing? Or perhaps did you understood the stamp?
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If by "the whole thing", you mean the stamp and description, then yes. There are no right or wrong opinions, only people who have them. Respecting the opinion "I hate bronies" doesn't mean you're respecting hate, you're just respecting the person's choice of that opinion. Even if they are negative, all opinions are like anuses, we all have one and they stink.
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The problem is that some people use their opinions as an argument.
If for example: Someone say "name is a bad person" then that is arguable.
But if someone said "I do not like that person" then I think that's less arguable.
I also do not think arguing means you're being disrespectful. It's also possible that making an argument about people other than yourself could be considered disrespecting. It may depends though.
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They talk, and besides, it's a fantasy. If it's gross, then masturbating to humans is FUCKING GROSS.
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I've heard ppl go to jail for have ANIME pictures of underage girls. Also....I DON'T MASTURBATE THO....
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That is correct. 18 USC 1466A:
(a)In General.—Any person who, in a circumstance described in subsection (d), knowingly produces, distributes, receives, or possesses with intent to distribute, a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that—
depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and
is obscene; or
depicts an image that is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in graphic bestiality, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex; and
lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value;
or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be subject to the penalties provided in section 2252A(b)(1), including the penalties provided for cases involving a prior conviction.
(b)Additional Offenses.—Any person who, in a circumstance described in subsection (d), knowingly possesses a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that—
depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and
is obscene; or
depicts an image that is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in graphic bestiality, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex; and
lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value;
or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be subject to the penalties provided in section 2252A(b)(2), including the penalties provided for cases involving a prior conviction.
(c)Nonrequired Element of Offense.—
It is not a required element of any offense under this section that the minor depicted actually exist.
(d)Circumstances.—The circumstance referred to in subsections (a) and (b) is that—
any communication involved in or made in furtherance of the offense is communicated or transported by the mail, or in interstate or foreign commerce by any means, including by computer, or any means or instrumentality of interstate or foreign commerce is otherwise used in committing or in furtherance of the commission of the offense;
any communication involved in or made in furtherance of the offense contemplates the transmission or transportation of a visual depiction by the mail, or in interstate or foreign commerce by any means, including by computer;
any person travels or is transported in interstate or foreign commerce in the course of the commission or in furtherance of the commission of the offense;
any visual depiction involved in the offense has been mailed, or has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce by any means, including by computer, or was produced using materials that have been mailed, or that have been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce by any means, including by computer; or
the offense is committed in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in any territory or possession of the United States.
(e)Affirmative Defense.—It shall be an affirmative defense to a charge of violating subsection (b) that the defendant—
possessed less than 3 such visual depictions; and
(2)promptly and in good faith, and without retaining or allowing any person, other than a law enforcement agency, to access any such visual depiction—
took reasonable steps to destroy each such visual depiction; or
reported the matter to a law enforcement agency and afforded that agency access to each such visual depiction.
(f)Definitions.—For purposes of this section—
the term “visual depiction” includes undeveloped film and videotape, and data stored on a computer disk or by electronic means which is capable of conversion into a visual image, and also includes any photograph, film, video, picture, digital image or picture, computer image or picture, or computer generated image or picture, whether made or produced by electronic, mechanical, or other means;
the term “sexually explicit conduct” has the meaning given the term in section 2256(2)(A) or 2256(2)(B); and
the term “graphic”, when used with respect to a depiction of sexually explicit conduct, means that a viewer can observe any part of the genitals or pubic area of any depicted person or animal during any part of the time that the sexually explicit conduct is being depicted.
Because of course there is no difference between cartoons and raping an actual child.
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This is now my new favorite stamp. So much wisdom packed into a minute.
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FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT AN OPINION IS!!!!!!
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you're semi-right, but...
yes, i agree that some opinions are just immature, but not everybody will think the same. many people i watch say "people who do this/that are disgusting". they're hateful opinions, yes, but it's what they think of that group, and we just gotta deal. i wouldn't ever freak out if anyone looked me in the eyes and told me "undertale fans are stupid", because, well, it's their problem, not mine. it's fine to have a hateful opinion to me because it is indeed truly harmless and like any other opinion, unless, of course, someone decides to do a mass shooting or something because they don't like furries.
honestly, why can't humans coexist with their opinions...?
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But to say that to people, regardless of it being a different opinion, is still debatable and could still be rude because the opinion is about other people not them. Liking/Disliking is one thing that does not cross the line, but to start an argument out of a belief (which can be an opinion too), especially insult people like that, is beyond the line.
Beliefs are arguable, if they contain actual stuff outside of their personality. If someone has a belief about things outside of them, then it's global and no longer 'personal'.
If someone went to me in front of my face and said "You are disgusting for what I don't like", I won't respect that because that someone is forcing personal opinion over me.
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On the other hand:
"Anime is just cartoons"
Anime fandom be like:
THIS...MEANS...WAR!!!!
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As an anime fan....
I FREAKING AGREE!!
they're cartoons! just done mostly in a different style compared to
western cartoons.
Unless it's something like Osomatsu-san, Panty and Stocking, Kimba the White Lion
or 80's Astro Boy... cuz those are CLEARLY cartoony; rather than the typical anime style.
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You are the most greatest person in the history of the world. You deserve a prize.
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Meanwhile I just sit here and say "I don't get the hype over anime..."
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And I'm over here praising you because I agree with you to the max.
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I've actually never watched anime... don't want to either. Glad someone agrees with me though.
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Don't worry, I'll protect you from the weebs who will hurt you for
saying that.
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