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Published: 2016-09-21 23:16:29 +0000 UTC; Views: 2045; Favourites: 30; Downloads: 0
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People nowadays care so much about content, art design and graphics that Street Fighter V, DmC: Devil May CryΒ and any HD remake got criticized and nobody gives a crap about the gameplay anymore.Gameplay is more important, graphics and content are an optional bonus. No matter how complete or incomplete a game looks like. Games like Sonic 06 and Sonic Boom are the REAL incomplete games, because the gameplay was poor and it was rushed, unlike Street Fighter V, who has a complete gameplay, no glitches, but people criticize it for the lack of content where I just wanna facepalm so harder. I know, it's the same thing with Killer Instinct, although after three seasons, it felt complete.
Again, Gameplay is the MOST IMPORTANT thing in videogames, whether it looks incomplete or not. I blame Mariotehplumber and other people who started this "Gameplay is not the most important in gaming" mindset.
Oh and before you get annoyed, I find the gameplay of Killer Instinct and King of Fighters XIV as badass as every Street Fighter game.
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You again?
Sure, but if all a game has going for it is the ability to play it, it really doesn't help much. If a game has a good story, it could help encourage players to press on to see it further develop. Same applies to a decent art style.
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Well remember this. We're not saying gameplay is the ONLY important thing in a videogame. We're saying it's the MOST important. Yes, everything else could help, but not much. let's say we have a shitty game with a good story for example. If the gameplay sucks (whether its unfinished, or has god awful controls) the story alone is not going to make it a good game. The same applies with graphics and music. Sonic 06, despite it's wonderful soundtrack, is critically panned as one of the worst games of all time. The soundtrack didn't save that game from getting the reputation it got.
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Right, so if the gameplay's good it nullifies everything else. This has gameplay as its only forte, does that make it good?:Β www.youtube.com/watch?v=810Gj8β¦
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Oh sure, the next thing your going to tell me that Mario has sucked since 1985 because it has gameplay as it's only forte to.
I can't say anything about this game since I've never played it myself. But if the game itself sucks gameplay wise, why should I care about everything else. I don't know about you, but I'd rather not get frustrated because of stupid design choices or unfinished gameplay, just to see how a story folds out. (Especially if the story itself sucks.) Content only gets you so far kid.
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It was a game released on an 8-Bit system in the mid-80s, a time when game development was still limited.
It's not about frustration, but rather appreciating qualities that help boost the adage that games are more than just mindless entertainment, but an art form. Simply being able to move around and interact is hardly an art form.
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Still holds my point especially since people cared more about gameplay back then.
They've always been entertainment, and entertainment isn't art. Sure it can have artistic qualities, and I sure as hell would appreciate it. But any game developer would never forget that videogames are entertainment. If I'm not entertained, then all of the work that was put into the content will mean nothing and will be wasted. People will lose interest and may probably shut the game off and may trade it in.
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So consoles were able to make cutting edge graphics and visual storylines back in the 80s?
Then I guess we could hold that against all forms of media. I could tell that whoever you move a player, you'd just burst into laughter. Just because there're people who believe that gameplay is all that really matters, it doesn't automatically make it right. I'm just saying.
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m.youtube.com/watch?v=BNsrK6P9β¦
Content wasn't the focus back then. That's why game developers were focused on the gameplay at the time.
And there's more to gameplay than just moving a player around. The amount of gameplay genres can no doubt speak for themselves. Just saying.
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So... you agree with my point that developers didn't have the capability to go beyond 8-bit graphics back in the 80s? Gameplay was the focus because they couldn't do anything past that back then. Remember, video games were still in a state of development in the 80s.
And what do those genres have? Moving around, shooting stuff, interacting? That's about it, and those genres you speak of contain derivatives of those three attributes. I could see you as a diehard fan of Call of Duty because you're trying so hard to make it seem like gameplay is more than what it is.
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I'm not talking about technical limitations. Gameplay still plays a prominent role in videogames regardless of how much content you put in. Stop treating videogames as if they're art (because they're not) and treat them like actual entertainment. They've always been classified as entertainment and they always will be. (No matter how much videogames have evolved over the years). They're called "videogames" for a reason you know.
And just a side note: I hate Call of Rehash.
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It's ironic that you hate Call of Duty, yet you're putting all of the importance of gaming onto gameplay, which is all Call of Duty has.
So you're against games trying to employ a higher sense of creativity, hence providing diversity amongst said games? I would love to live in your limited world, but I believe in bringing creativity to anything.
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It's funny how you assume that I'm some COD Fanboy, yet I've put Mario as an example. (Without bringing up COD). If your gonna call me out as a fanboy for a certain franchise, at least pay attention. (Instead of you know...... Assuming shit)
I would love to think like you, but I don't believe in Bullshit sadly. Bye.
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It's fair to assume because you value gameplay over all else. It shows all over.
Have fun with your bare basic gameplay.
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And you know what they say about assuming.
It makes an ass out of you and me. (Particularly you though)
Have fun missing the point about videogames. Good day. π
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"(Particularly you though)"
Really showcasing your maturity there.
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Still more true than what ever you come up with.
Just let this go and float away in your little bubble. You already lost the argument. No need to drag this out.
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Why? Is your ego in danger? Just because you claim that I lost, it doesn't mean its true. You have yet to prove that gameplay is all that matters in video games.
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Do I have to repeat myself? Is your ignorance too great?
I never said it was the ONLY thing that mattered. I said it's the MOST important!
Look up ONLY and MOST in the dictionary.
And I said gameplay is the main component that separates videogames from books and movies. Why do you think that you have the controller? If we focused on content alone, then what's the point of making a videogame to begin with? I don't think I need actual proof when it's common knowledge.
You really don't pay attention do you?
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Now now, use your inside voice.
You say it's the most important, and in doing so, you ignore other factors that are just starting to become important. Hence, you're focusing too much on the aspect of gameplay.
Just because gameplay is utilized to make games differentiate from film and literature, does that mean it has to be limited to just gameplay? Just so then you could push the ludicrous idea that video games are nothing more than a lesser boob tube?
I do, your attempts at evoking superiority are just too empty.
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I'm open to innovation, gameplay should be the main focus. Β Then you build around it with the Story, Graphics, and Music.
I never said it should be limited to it.
All of this because some people just don't know the difference between MOST and ONLY.
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Looks like we're going full circle.
Or maybe because you felt like responding.
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Well if i'm going to constantly repeat myself, maybe i should stop responding.
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Now you're catching on.
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If I had it your way, I'd be praising games aimed at the casual market. We've gone a long way from just 8-bit graphics, yet it seems like you still want to stay behind.
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And while we have gone a long way, every game developer has never forgotten about gameplay.
Seriously dude, don't drag this out. (Especially since you've got two people who fairly disagree with you)
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Well, gameplay exists because, yeah, it's a game. But we've come to a point where innovation is welcome. Stuff like interesting characters, stories and diverse art styles could help to give video games a unique identity.
Why? You've never gotten this far in a debate before? (and?)
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Let me rephrase that. Pretty much at least half of the gaming community would proudly disagree with you.
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There'll always be disagreement. This is the internet after all. You came here wanting to debate and look where it led us.
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Says you. You wanted to debate and I just wanted to throw my two cents in there.
Disagreement is everywhere. Not just the internet. I may have added fuel to the fire, but you were the one that ignited the flames.
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Actually, it's the other way around. I left my side, and here you are wanting to debate.
Nope. What ignited the flames was you coming in. This would've ended had it not been for you rearing your head into this thread.
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Oh i'm sorry. Β I couldn't tell. Β This is the internet after all. Β (Especially how recent it was)
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I love how immature you're being over the fact that you responding to the thread was what started our debate.
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What? Β It's true. Β I really couldn't tell.
Give the insults a break.
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I'm not insulting you. Your rage is blinding you.
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Says the person that says i'm stuck in the past. Β
If you think that you're right, then you would listen to my honest points.
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Might be a stretch, but you're far past the point of agreement
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Oh so now you agree?
Again, if we focused on content alone, there'd be no point.
I'm always welcome for innovation, but I want to have fun to.
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There is such a thing as middle ground. We could have gameplay and stuff like a good art style, characterization and story. You can't rely on just gameplay alone forever.
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I never relied on gameplay alone. I'm just saying that we shouldn't focus too much on content.
Content is nice don't get me wrong, but if the game is frustrating or boring, content isn't going to save it. You can't rely on content forever.
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Didn't sound like it the whole convo. What threw me off was the sense that you were preaching how important gaming was.
As to you, you can't rely on gaming forever.
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Well I said gameplay is the MOST important thing for a reason.
I never said nor preached about how important gaming is as a whole. Now your pulling shit out of your ass.
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You don't have to say it for it to be true. It's all about how you express it
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I was saying how gameplay makes videogames different from other forms of media.
Seriously, don't think you know how to express simple text over the internet.
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I'm pretty sure you brought that up in the middle of the debate.
Back at ya.
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do you realize SFV would have been an waste of money, with the story/arcade mode the way it is? you have to pay for plus, if you want to play online on PS4.
i learned the hard way when i bought Battlefront.
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But does the gameplay have any bugs or glitches?
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well, if it's polished that's one good thing going for it,
but if there's not enough content to ensure you the good amount of money you payed to buy it, then that's another thing, but without the good. unless if you're happy with you're purchase.
i hope you bought the pc verision.Β
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Also, Killer Instinct for XBOX One lacks content too and they got criticized for it, but at least people cared about the gameplay.
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If you are talking about the PC version of SFV, then I didn't bought it not on Steam nor anywhere else.
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Tell that to some of the die hard Sonic Adventure fanboys.
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