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ChikitaWolf — IT'S THEIR FAULT!1!!11
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LazystampislazyOTLI'm sure those of you who have dived into the muck of debate and flaming have seen it.
I'd love to add stamps in here as examples, but the anti-religion stamps far outweighed the anti-atheism stamps (from what I could find), and I gave up x'D
As a Christian myself (I'd like to think I'd be considered a "sane" one, lmao), I've been called a lot of nasty things and gotten more than my fair share of vulgar comments. But goodness, I've seen atheists (or anyone not entirely religious for that matter) get ripped apart just as bad, if not worse.
Recently, however, I've noticed that people are starting a ridiculous crying out that "[Athiests / Religious folk] are the haters!!", "There's only hate on the [Atheist / Religion] side!!", etc.
. . . wut?
tl;dr: There's hate on both sides, people. It's not just one side's fault.
Anyway, !DoItForTheLulz says it best in regards to the extremism on both sides.
I wish Christians would come up with a new nameSeriously, I wish you good Christians--the ones of value and true faith--would devise a way to call yourselves something different so that we can identify you from the morons. I mean, really. Most of you people are like anyone else, but you have morons who spout stupid shit that just makes your religion look like a brain washing factory of retardation.
I wish branding was still legal. Then we could just mark fucktards on the forehead with giant "F"s.
For "fucktard".
Edit: Now that I have your attention,
This applies to everyone. It just so happens that "Christian" is a really good topic word for people to look.
I aim this mostly at Chris
EDIT: I'd really appreciate it if people didn't attempt "turning" others away from their beliefs or lack thereof. Everyone has a right to believe in what they want - there's no need for you to start leeching onto people's comments and telling them they're messed up or wrong, etc, etc.
If I keep finding this going on, I'm going to disable comments.
Healthy conversation is encouraged, however
EDIT2: Need examples of what I'm talking about in this stamp? I suggest reading through the comments ;D *ahem*Page 6
EDIT3: Featured~! 
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Not particularly. It's gotten too all over the place.
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If you don't want to continue, then don't reply, if you DO however, reply
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"It's not for women!" I don't think they were sober when they made that one. Well, either that or their director is a pet parrot from Family Guy.
I know it exists in a majority of cultures in the world. But think back before super sexist religions came into play. Womyn were considered equal to, even greater than a man because a womyn was sacred for her ability to give birth to children. Now adays, selling, raping, beating and/or killing a womyn is perfectly fine in some cultures. Of course, these are total religious dominated areas, but it still shows what can be if religion gains to much power in a society. The fact that womyn are commonly sexualized, being advertised for house only people who can only be seen as sex objects, it destroys young girls self image of themselves and makes them believe that having such a self destructive lifestyle is the only option she has. Burn the evil pink
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I'm a bit shocked that they even allowed in on camera.
Why are you spelling it as "womyn"?
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"man" is implying that a girl can't be complete without a man in her life (which is a total lie if you ask me, I mean, the Amazons were pretty successful for their time). I don't do that kind of spelling for things like "history" because it comes from the Latin word "historia", rather than stereotypes made by the religious community.
And I'm not shocked. Humans are selfish and self absorbed. Not one womyn who made their kid participate in it seemed even remotely concerned with the child's self image.
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I don't really agree that it implies that (because like you, I know that's bullshit), and I'm really anal about using English properly, so 
Curious; how do you differentiate plural and singular using "womyn"?
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Understanding use of context.
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No offense to any atheist who reads this, but sometimes they start shit too. I was posting that I was a Christian who supports gay marriage, abortion, or whatever and some bust in and bash me for believing in God. I didn't do or say anything and they become sacastic about something like a spaghetti monster or something. What?! Plus there are homophobic and anti-abortion atheist too. I've seen their post on here and other websites, so it always isn't the Christians.
I don't know. I accept asexuals though. I will include you guys next time. LBGTA. =3
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But the atheist don't have a book that instructs them to specifically be homophobic - christians do. And they still teach that book to this day. That is what has us so angry.
We LOVE that there are more and more tolerant christians - the teachings of the bible just can't catch up with the reality of diverse kinds of people being ok to exist.
But again, it frustrates us to no end that if you do't even believe in the teachings in the bible - why be christian? Why not just be good people without having to drag around that book full of hate crimes with you?
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Just ebcause they don't have a book about it doesn't mean that they still won't become a homophobe. I am aware of that as well. Quite frankly I sometimes don't consider myself religious since I'm pretty live and let live about everything.
Glad that you accept the Christians who have a brain in their head. Like I said I sometimes don't consider myself Christian, but I believe that their is a higher being. Somebody/something had to create the universe and my astronomy teacher only teaches so much information.
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Homophobia is most commonly seen in the Bible Belt. Anti-abortionists are also most commonly seen in religious dominated areas like in the Bible Belt and Utah. The population far exceeds that of the atheists who share the phobia. I said Christians were most common, not the sole creator of it. Atheists commonly have problems with religious people because we're disgusted with child abuse, for both mental and physical, and believe everyone has a right to choose for themselves, rather than their parents choosing for them. Hence is why some people are disgusted that you'd share pride in such a abusive and sexist belief system. I know you obviously don't believe in slavery, slaughter of womyn or homosexuals, you're comments already proved that, but you still advocate that image whenever you say 'Christian' or 'religious' in a positive sense. It's not really your fault. It's the fault of those that take pride in behaving like that and forcing kids into such beliefs.
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I know that as well, but it exists outside religion too is all that I was pointing out. Never said that you said that either. You can choose, because you won't be under the eye of your parents in college, ergo finding yourself. I'm Christian and I'm looking into other religons and even atheism. Everyone goes through an identity crisis. That includes religious identity crisis as well. I really don't tolerate much in the Bible because it's degrading towards certain people. I guess when you look at it, I'm just a person who tries to coexist with her fellow man more than religion. Sometimes extremist make Christianity look less appealing(people like the Wesbro Church community). Those can be the most hateful and biggoted of people. It's people like them that make it hard to want to share the same religious name. I guess that's why we have subdivisions.
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It's not to hard to coexist in comparison to other times in the past. It's easier to voice your opinions and share information. I suppose that's why people love the internet over virtually everything else.
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There is a difference between being intolerant because you believe in mythology instead of reality, and being intolerant of intolerance because you value real morality and peace.
Most atheists who seem hateful are simply being intolerant of the intolerance religion breeds.
Most Christians who are hateful are being intolerant because of their religious scripture and self-congratulatory attitudes encouraging them to be.
Religious intolerance -> Atheists intolerance of intolerance -> Religious intolerance of intolerance of intolerance -> etc.
Certainly it spirals out of control fast, but there is a starting point there.
If religion responded by becoming tolerant and moral in the modern age, instead of encouraging immorality and reacting with hate towards legitimate criticism, then secular criticism of religion would die down quickly as the worst problems with religion were solved. (Win-win)
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A person cannot be a Christian and have hate for people at the same time. We hate sin because God hates sin but we love everyone as a person. You cannot love a person and love their sin at the same time. We pray for people and share God's truth in a loving way.
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Spiralling out of control is a common thing when it gets into philosophy, worldview, etc. It really gets confusing 
I already mentioned morality in the reply you gave me earlier (didn't notice you'd commented as well, woops! 
In my area, people keep their beliefs to themselves. I have many a friend who don't believe in homosexuality and some even against birth control, but they keep it to themselves and love all like they're called to (Christianity-wise). Atheists and Christians (and Muslims and Mormons, as those are the four more prominent where I am) get along well in my area, despite their inner intolerance of certain things. Perhaps it's more of an acceptance that we're gonna disagree, but we're going to overlook our differences and live our lives as we feel we ought to. "Live and let live" I think is the ideaology
. . . if only certain areas of the internet had that OTL.
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"In my area, people keep their beliefs to themselves."
That is not enough to keep them from doing moral wrong to the world. Most moral wrongs people commit are personal actions.
"I have many a friend who don't believe in homosexuality and some even against birth control"
Think about that for a while, and try to tell me some ways that those beliefs could cause moral harm even if they don't push them on others.
(They cause much moral harm even when isolated like that- I can explain how later if you can't think of any).
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What do you say is moral wrong then?
I'd love to hear more of your thoughts :'3
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Oh this is fantastic! And that's coming from an atheist.
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Definitely. It's just a big "I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG LALALALA" festival where everyone acts like children. They just need to grow some tolerance.
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I have met really many sane and polite atheists but all freethinkers (at least here in Finland) have been huge assholes about religions. It is sad to see in here deviantART so many foulmouthed freethinkers that say that they are 'atheists' because many people have started hating atheists instead of freethinkers because of that.
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Which is why I'm glad to not be on either side.
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Seriously if (example) a religious person screams out that there's only hate on the Atheist side how the heck does the religious people not hate just for saying that? Seriously that's a stupid paradox and I'm not even gonna bother finding out what sort of paradox it is.
And Chi even if it's lazy I think it gets the message across. Now if only everyone could see it it may acomplish it's goal.
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True. Both sides are made up of humans, and we humans are fallible, sinful creatures. We Christians may be ultimately forgiven and all, but that doesn't mean we're exempt from sinning. We still have our human natures ("flesh") to contend with.
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the minute I read the stamp I was like"omg the voice of reason"
I Hate the war between Religious followers and Atheists. I can understand why people wanna be atheist, I mean my Dad is a atheist for godsakes. but I have been attacked and pushed around for my faith at the same time, even to the point where the person treated me less then human.
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I totally wanted to flame this just to be ironic... but I just couldn't let the troll take over lol
As a Christian, I agree with just about everything everyone's said on this particular post, and the post itself.
I also love what someone said (wish I knew who started it) "Having a religion is like having a penis. It's cool if you have one, and it's okay to be proud of it - but it's not cool to go around whipping it out and shoving it down peoples' throats... especially childrens."
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Haha
That sounds like something Haters (=Haters-Gonna-Hate-Me ) would say, lmao :'D
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All is war and war is stupid.........
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Yeah, because it takes two sides to start a fight.
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This is so true. Dx
I've always realized there are some more extreme people calling themselves Christians, but there really are a lot of extreme atheists that do the same thing. :I
The world is just one big, hypocritical pile of dung~
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xDDD Why, thank you~
Feel free to use it at any time. xD
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True, but that is human nature. Every person has hate. It isn't because we are religious or atheists, its because we're human. I advocate for trying to have debates without hate, but its hard.
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True, but there's also hate the spurs on from beliefs or lack of :/
I've learned that debating on dA is always an... interesting experience
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But hate spurs from everything.
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. . yeah o3o I didn't say it spurred from only topics of beliefs
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I know, I just mean its equally as likely to spur from any important belief. Being religious or atheistic isn't the cause of the hate, the hate is everywhere :'c
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Ah, I must have read your comment wrong then
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Thankfully I've been spared the hate (having gone to a Christian middle school and a school in a town with a church for every 50 inhabitants XP)
But what ticks me off is that a "friend" of mine who jumped between Buddhism, witchcraft, and Catholicism created her own "religion" for her book that she is convinced will be published and be all the craze in 5 years XP claims it's "just like Christianity, just with a few additions" BULL. She made up this weird thing with a queen who fell in love with a mortal and everyone who believes this "religion" is a fallen angel yadiyada
I'm sorry, this stamp is for you to rant, not me
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LMAO
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I don't even know
My main problem with it (aside from it being "derived from Christianity") is that, in my opinion, religion is a set of beliefs designed to make a person make themselves better, based on the values expressed on their religion. This seems more like something she just says she's part of because it has an interesting backstory XP
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Haha, it really does x'D
Ah well. Whatever she's happy with x'D
I still think Pastafarianism beats anything a person can make up \o/
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