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Cronaj — Embracing Soro
#anime #baby #blood #boy #child #death #despair #forest #man #manga #river #sadness #sorrow #tears
Published: 2016-05-02 04:32:07 +0000 UTC; Views: 1453; Favourites: 178; Downloads: 0
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I finally finished this. It took FOREVER!!! I still don't know how I feel about it... It's not nearly as good as I was hoping it was going to be. FEEDBACK IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. Especially since I have no idea what specifically I don't like. Done is Paint Tool Sai, with slight touch ups in Photoshop CC 2015.Also, allow me time to cry now T^T How dare I do this to my poor babies...
© cronasonlyfriend (me) from my novel Akata, the prequel to my webcomic Callous
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[Edit:] I went back and made some slight alterations, mostly editing some of the colors and contrast. Overall, I think it looks a lot better.
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[EDIT 2:]
I did some more editing to the colors and details.
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Thank you so much for your critique! I'm very grateful for your feedback
I am hoping to go back into the background again, as there are still some unresolved issues. Thank you again!
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I got the idea, but the way you puted it, it looks cheezy and unless you are 5 y o, you cant look at this seriously, dont take it as a mock or what ever.Im just putting it in more critical light unlike the one who criticised it~There is no perspective (for all), i can say that for sure, since its way too off (im struggling with it my self), it looks like 2D mixed with 2.5D.. also colors doesnt make the mood to feel it well.The whole picture is like this, you look at the man and the child, and you want to start to feel bad for it, but then you notice the off perspective, odd colors, awkward details, that doesnt go well togeather and stuff, and you loose that feel.Personally i wouldnt recomend to draw in Photoshop at all, btw. Its just not rly built for it, though many people manage and says its ok.What i find common in artworks that are colored, artist use black lines with detailed coloring, which almost never goes well togeather.For example look at that rock at left bottom,, it looks like a sticker!But dont get me wrong, its not all that bad. You did a good job on coloring, making stuff detailed and all. But you didnt present it well as a whole artwork.Ceep trying and practising!Btw, sry for my terrable english
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Hi there. I thank you for taking the time to critique this piece. It's very important to me that I get feedback. And of course, sometimes that means that I get negative feedback too. I am no stranger to those kinds of comments, or to harsh critiques. I'm sorry that you don't like this piece. I put a lot of hard work and emotion into it, and I know that sometimes that doesn't translate well into the piece. However, I do not find your critique to be constructive, since it seems to me that all of your comments pointed out only its flaws without any specific advice on how to improve, and without any insight on what possible merits the piece has. That, paired with the fact that some of your comments appear a little insensitive and insulting to me, is the reason why I have decided to rate this critique as "unfair." Thank you anyway, and I wish you luck in all of your artistic endeavors.
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I didnt mean it as a negative one, though it has some mistake pointing out sentences : D
I understand dont worry, i also put a lot n my work, though either other people dont like it or me as well dont like it, cuz i have not presented (in drawing) it well enough, mistakes, bad composition, wrong this and that, its normal. I, just like everyone like only good feedback, but i accept every bad feedback that has stated problems with my artwork, cuz thats a productive critique.
True, i pointed whats wrong, cuz its up to us how we deal with our flaws anyways. Many some people need to change tecnic (whats the right word, damn) some need just a bit diferent approach, so on. Its not like im a pro at art my self, so i believe i should not give advices over how to, since that would be pretty dumb from me
True, i can be kinda cold sometimes, without even having that as my intention, actually, i cant be cold on purpose, haha
I hope you work on your flaws, polish your (forgot the word) .... your way of how you draw and make your art come true
What i would suggest maybe, work on contrast and how colors react to each other, cuz that would let you make stuff look more real, fit-in-picture and over all, benefit your art
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My God, is this an intense one! We are drawn right away to the man who is crying, embracing the dead and bleeding child. The immediate trees seem swayed as if in mourning of this scene, while the river flows on. Majestic, and symbolism of the flow of destiny, and the teacher of the art of letting go. Yet, at the same time, the river seems to be part of the man's tears, mourning at the same time for the death of this child.
When one continues to look at this sad, yet majestic piece of work, one is drawn to the subtle fact of the lifelessness of the child. And while there is a sense that they still live, the face, and limpness of their body, but most noticeably the blood, all point towards the sad fact.
Among the things that I like about this work is the position you have the two subjects. It is as if you have the man embracing the child tightly, but not to tightly so that they are fully against his body. Along with the way you had him raise his head towards the sky and shed tears, all symbolise to me great love for the child, and yet the beginning of letting go. The child is dead, and he mourns both consciously and subconsciously, but on the latter level, he knows that he cannot keep them "physically" close, and that they are eternally separated (physically, that is). And hence, this as symbolising the beginning of acceptance of the separation.
I feel like the vision behind the piece of work is very clear, and it speaks very close to heart for me. The technique you employed was effective, though, as we cannot tell how the child died (and it probably doesn't even matter for this work) I do believe there should me more blood. It (i.e the blood) should be more fluid-like when on the child's body, and should be a bit darker in some areas (like on the forehead) and not made to seem as if they have been playing in clay or something.
All in all, I found this to be a very touching, and close to heart piece of art work by a great artist. I will, however, not cry, for I am physically unable to cry in the first place, and even if I could, this piece would [not] make me shed tears.
Why? Because this piece has put me beyond tears (that's how good it is), and as there are many things in this world, there are some things that are simply beyond tears. There are things that bring tears, yes, but some things are just to be accepted as part of this world. And, I will say it again because this piece has brought about a lot of emotions, there are things that are just beyond tears.
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O.O Wow... I've never received such an emotional response to my work. I almost teared up myself just reading this. (This piece took me particularly long because of how incredibly sad it made me.) Thank you so much for your critique, and for taking the time to write this. It means so much to me that someone else appreciates my work like this. Truly.
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*cri cri sniffle* nuu its ok <3
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(oml u used spn u r now my official fav person ever omlll)
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Wow...this is really sad and dark. You captured some really intense emotions in this. Very good job!
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Yes... Yes it is... Thank you.
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I DON'T EVEN KNOW THESE CHARACTERS YET MY POOR HEART ;A;
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Awwwww! I'm sorry! I'm a terrible person T^T
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Nuuuu it's lovely! But it's soo saad
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I MAY HAVE KNOWN!
But I forgot. ;w;
Thisi is why he needed protecting. *goes into the corner to sob*
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I understand now why we weren't supposed to ask about Soro...
I think at all works really well, and, again your composition is awesome. What I'm not sure about is the pattern on the water - it's probably supposed to represent stones in the riverbed or caustics, but it kinda looks a bit like leopard print 
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Yeah... T^T Soro is a difficult character for me...
I can see that. I've had a few suggestions about the river. I'm going to go back into it and fix up the inconsistencies. Thank you
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esto es demasiado para mi ;-;
si que lograste transmitir la tristeza y, al menos para mí, también la angustia y agonía
me gusto mucho la pose que le diste así también como las expresiones ya que eso ayudó mucho a que tu dibujo quedara espectacular
en mi opinión es un excelente trabajo
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Gracias. Yo lloré mucho mientras dibujando este. T^T
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If its a critique you want I'll write it here since I don't like using the critique option thingy ~
I think thematically you really captured Ryukou heartbreak over Soro and embracing his unconscious (or dead?) body. Anatomically I think everything is sound for the most part except for Ryukou's far leg,
I think the background is where the overall effect of this piece is really impeded. I feel like there are to many colours dominant in it such as the browns, greens, blues, and the red from Soros clothing all kind of fight with one another. Without a colour scheme that goes well together I think the piece looses a lot of its atmosphere and impact.
I think the background behind all of the wiggly trees shouldn't be that bright. Trees have a habit of blocking out light, and im going to assume they have a bunch of leaves since the ones in the fore ground do. The river looks kind of wonky and im not sure how effective lines are to convey moving water.
When it comes to detail, I think the grass is to detailed. You want to make sure you main focal point, which is Ryukou and Soro is the main attraction. Compared to everything else, the grass is just full of texture (I'm going to assume you used a texture brush for this).
I guess the main thing I wanna say is that you should practice backgrounds. Your figures and characters are really good, but for a full piece like this the background being so conflicting takes a lot of away from it.
If you don't understand what I mean I can always go over it and show you what I mean, since a lot of what im suggesting would take maybe an hour or two to go over and fix.
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Well... I know I need to practice backgrounds. I've been doing that with my more recent pieces (this one included). :/
As for the background being simple, I did that intentionally, to bring out the focal point as you said. I went back and lowered the saturation in the background elements to help balance out the piece and fix any clashing colors too, but I suppose that didn't work.
As for the grass, I could redo it. That may help with the overall balance of the piece, but a lot of the other things suggested, I either cannot do, would take more time than it's worth in this single piece, or I already adjusted before, and did not like the effect, (I made a lot of choices to change things or to keep them the same).
Thank you just the same. Hmmm... A lot to consider...
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Its just takes a lot of time to do background really well ;w; And sometimes they can either add or take away... so its really a slippery slope.
I think if you were to re do the grass, adding some texture only in the front would make a better outcome, the further you are away from it, the less detailed it becomes, so most of the grass behind them would be less detailed.
I'll take like 20 minutes when I get home to kind of do the things I suggested roughly, and if you don't like it than thats fine.
You're welcome, always happy to help with my mediocre art-analyzing experience and bias suggestions xD
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Haha, no, your suggestions were very educated. A lot of the advice you gave was very similar to the advice I received today from my professor and some of the other students.
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Oh phew.
Sometimes im like "Shes so sick and tired of my bullshit comments."
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Nah. It's just that I was dreading all the work I still have to do after like 20+ hours. T^T
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Yeah xD Doing art is so unrewarding, but so fulfilling.
Like you could spend month on something and it barely get noticed.
But you might actually like it, and feel good about all of the work you put into it.
Its not even like a job or a hobby where your time has to be worth the outcome.
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I was really happy about how the lines turned out, but I started to hate it once I began adding color >.<
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Honestly it happens. Usually when that happens to me I take the time to ask myself why the colours didn't work.
Usually its a composition thing or the lineart wasn't as good as I thought it was.
Or I just try doing it differently.
Each piece is pretty much a learning experience.
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I feel so much more at ease when I just start coloring without caring about the lines. But then it's much messier.
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There isn't really anything wrong with messy is there?
I'm like thecomplete opposite though, I need some kind of sketch to fill the colours into or I get frusterated with it xD
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I usually sketch, but if I'm messy with it, then I can be messy with the colors/painting too. And then it usually looks "freer," less restrained, and over all more dynamic. I feel like I'm more of an impressionist, like those painters of the past movement. www.google.com/search?q=impres…
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If you like doing stuff like that than why don't you do stuff like that than? You know, do what you enjoy?
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Well, that's what I'm good at, but I want to learn to make cleaners, polished work.
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Clean and polished work takes forever though, unless you know the tricks ;w; and I don't know the tricks!
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