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Published: 2017-11-12 17:03:43 +0000 UTC; Views: 22612; Favourites: 206; Downloads: 138
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Do you struggle to get comments on your art? Are you disappointed in the amount of engagement you get on your uploads, polls and statuses? Consider reading this article and looking at potential ways to widen your reach.
I would also love to know how many views/comments you need to receive on an upload to consider it a 'success'.
Preview: People online are self-absorbed. We're all guilty of this sort of behaviour every now and then in our day-to-day lives, but online we are actively encouraged to obsess over ourselves. Social media exists to plug us into a network of people who could be a potential audience, and within this network our own views and expressions generate the bulk of the content that is generated, with the tacit hope, and even expectation, that we will receive engagement.
There are a few easy things you can do that might just lead to more in the way of engagement:
In status updates, rather than just talking about your day, ask people to talk about their own as well
Instead of putting up a picture and just expecting a flood of comments, ask people to give feedback on a specific part of the design, or to provide an opinion about an element of the character you are unsure of
Consider creating content that requires people's input. For example, if you make a poll, try asking something that is universal and invites people to share their own experiences
When engaging with others, find ways of tying this back to your own content β what have you created that can tie into someone else's narrative?
If you use social media, know your audience. If you're trying to appeal to young people, you might want to consider using Snapchat, where 60% of its users are under 25. If you want to cultivate an audience to sell products to, consider creating a Facebook page where you can ensure your content appears on the news feeds of all those who follow you
On DeviantArt in particular, identify groups you can submit your work to in order to broaden the potential reach of your content to people with an interestΒ
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Comments: 141
honey-fern [2018-04-12 01:19:57 +0000 UTC]
(if this makes no sense that probably cuz i'm a crappy ex plainer)
(i tend to get carried away when talking about whats on my mind at the moment so if anything makes you mad in the slightest just ignore it)
I've been contemplating on why i wanted to be so noticed on deviantart and why i though it even mattered then this artical finally got me to think on why i'm even hear in the first place.
its because I want likes, comments and watchers not because i want popularity, because i want people to pay attention to my ideas. for my ideas and dreams to be heard, thought about.
i don't like joining normal ideas or creating things that already have been thought about or created by other people.
I stopped doing mlp because it was the only thing i was doing, i was doing something that was already created, already thought up.Β
i barely even like my mlp oc's because they where never truly my own anyone in the fandom could have made one similar to my own oc.
but my REAL OCs the ones i don't identify with a fandom, and only my universe core I love and only i could complete.
I want to be seen doing what i created what i thought up not what other people are apart of in a fandom or already thought up.
i dont want people only noticing me for free art only noticing me through fandoms or other peoples creation.
the only thing i want to be noticed for is what i create and what i think up.
i want attention for the things i create not the things that that originally existed.
i dont like talking about myself but i love talking about my ideas and what i want to make out of them.
i absolutely hate rubbing peoples ego's.
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I know this may sound extremely selfish but i really dislike creating others ideas all the time for attention, creating what people want me to make in order to be noticed. I want attention for what i want me to make, what ideas i created that i want to be noticed for.Β
i love everyone's ideas,dreams,OCs, stories, and (most)fandoms they are all unique but the only thing i want to create and be notice, given likes to, watched, and commented on devianart for is my own creations.
i could die right now and i could care less as long as my ideas are heard and maybe some day become someone else's idea and make it a real thing.
i want my dreams & ideas to be talked about not me not my account.
hope this makes sense just thought i should share what on my mind since theirs no point in keeping my thoughts to myself when i want to get it out so badly.
don't contemplate on why you exist like i do every day. Its okay to think about yourself a lot and want to be popular, as long as you become seen for what you do that you absolutely love and enjoy doing and you are nice to people along the way and are patient for the popularity to come your way.
don't force a cat to pay attention to you or it will want to ignore and dislike you every day.
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Inkhov [2018-04-04 11:20:08 +0000 UTC]
nice journal, so interesting hah and poetic (srry for my english?))
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star-dream [2018-02-14 05:26:59 +0000 UTC]
it depends why you create your art.
for others.. so you should ask them what kind of artist you will be
or yourself.. so that you can proudly express your vision, what artists do after all.
now both approaches are important, but more importantly, the selfish one is.
for audience is many and artist is one and audience didn't come to see audience
but the star of the show. who likes you at least. you could easily gain more
recognition certainly, by drawing what attracts attention because of attention
itself but you'd actually be losing the audience that way...
on the other hand drawing what others want can help your creativity and
inspire you to later on, make even better of your selfishness. by stepping
out of your own little big world and taking a chance with the big vast
anything, you can discover things you would have never wanted to try
on your own, blinded by own light and grow as an artist in ways you choose.
personally, i think good art speaks for itself and if you personally find it breath
taking, thats all you need, everything else is second to that.
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Epulson [2018-01-16 11:40:38 +0000 UTC]
The reason because why "nobody comments on one's art" is far more simpler than what you've conveyed here.
People don't comment because the vast majority of them saw everything and almost nothing excites them anymore. There is "nothing new under the sun", and it's especially true in the times of broadband Internet that allows one to consume content with impunity, without any break.
Users are bored of the Internet and what they could find in it. It's worthy of noticing that there are 7.5 milliards of people on Earth and, following studies of 2017, half of them have access to Internet. It gets crowded and competition gets fiercer with time, as you mentioned.
That only culminates in more ideas being created and faster saturation. And that always ends in audience's dopamine receptors developing tolerance to any content.
Even a blade of grass can bring joy, if you were living in the desert for a decade without access to modern mass media.
Having your mesolimbic pathway overloaded with dopamine, because of your rich digital diet that most indulge in, will result in you shrugging at the sight of the prettiest and most creative of images out there.
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star-dream In reply to Epulson [2018-02-14 04:59:10 +0000 UTC]
the problem is not in the amount of information at our fingertips but in style, vision, character and presenting them to the audience with respect it deserves. nowadays internet is still in a phase of an old junkyard from which everyone strips what they like and stuff it on another private junkyard, their own hard drive. then i suppose look what to delete when system complains on low disk space.
it is a mental problem, not physical and it has to do with the programs you are running and the way you treat your stuff. i beleive for example that art and social comments like this should be separated so that the work gets a slightly better presentation. thats a start when it comes for this site..
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T04RK [2018-01-06 00:32:11 +0000 UTC]
i think it's crucial for aspiring artists (myself included) to learn to love making art for other reasons than just gaining popularity from it. If people only liked creating art because they got attention for it, I think it will become a chore for them. I do agree that recognition is nice and it's good to recognize hard work, though!
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IndigoWizard [2017-12-23 01:02:52 +0000 UTC]
Except I started art because I realized that I was the only person who could satisfy my exact tastes, so instead of waiting for some to make something for me that I liked, I decided on making art of my own taste, because who else will?
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PolarNecromorph [2017-12-21 23:29:30 +0000 UTC]
Chernobyl to Russia! Humanism and charity!
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Mulunia [2017-12-20 21:33:58 +0000 UTC]
I thought this was going to be a troll article, but it's actually quite informative! Commenting on other people's art also helps, as it helps you build rapport with the artist (which JUST MIGHT make them curious enough to check out your art).
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BigAl29 [2017-12-20 17:49:20 +0000 UTC]
Huh, and here I just thought my content was trash. Now I feel... slightly better!
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ItsNeza [2017-12-20 11:07:23 +0000 UTC]
This has opened my eyes alot. I get comments saying ''Cute!'' or ''Nice'' I put alot of effort into my work and I spent hours on drawing almost everyday when I can... and when I do post it up, someone said to me: ''Oh you are slightly improving..'' I mean okay I get it but you do realise that I hardly get the time to draw.. you know? I'm sorry if I'm not much making any sense but this has opened my eyes and it made me think.. Thank you so much cuddlepug.
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Cuddlepug In reply to ItsNeza [2018-10-25 19:38:40 +0000 UTC]
Hi friend, just wanted to say I re-read this lovely comment from you from 2017 and it made me smile a lot. You really brightened my day with something you said all that time ago. It's worth letting you know that, I think <3
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Cuddlepug In reply to ItsNeza [2017-12-20 13:45:11 +0000 UTC]
Thanks very much for this comment, my friend. It's always great to see that articles such as this are useful to people. I hope you get lots more engagement in the future!
(And your gallery is very promising, you've got that anthro style nailed!)
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ItsNeza In reply to Cuddlepug [2017-12-20 15:23:37 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much for those king words. It really means alot~ I love your art style so much and your art is so amazing. <3
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Gloryraiin [2017-12-20 05:29:04 +0000 UTC]
Honestly this really opened my eyes. I noticed I only get comments from my long dead watchers when I do request (free art). Suddenly people I didn't even knew watched me rise from their graves to get some free art. I found that kind of selfish of my watchers but now I notice that I'm REALLY selfish. I'm never sure what to ask other people. After reading this I have a couple ideas I'm going to try.
This is very interesting to see your perspective of why most artist don't get comments. Shine a whole new light!
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Cuddlepug In reply to Gloryraiin [2017-12-20 08:07:06 +0000 UTC]
Thanks so much for your comment, Saia. I'm really happy to hear that you have benefited in some way from this article and I wish you all the best in getting lots of engagement in the future ^^
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Gloryraiin In reply to Cuddlepug [2017-12-20 14:01:20 +0000 UTC]
No problem! Thank you for taking the time for writing this up!
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PlushyPony [2017-12-19 07:29:01 +0000 UTC]
Applejack looks beautiful and fancy.
I DON'T LIKE IT.
If they do make a g5, I'd like new characters all together. Also, what will become of EG?
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BB-K [2017-12-04 07:15:25 +0000 UTC]
During my early days of DA, I can think of a few ways to succeed :
1. Do requests, lots of them before changing ways to commission (Request don't last forever, mate)
2. Draw fanarts, originality is not going to get you anywhere unless you're a super popular artist (Original art in early times only response is the sound of crickets)
3. Marketing, to become a high profile artist, marketing still needs to be done to sell yourself.
Out of all I did, I only do #2, sadly I'm already retired because of me playing more than drawing or coloring.... so oops.
All in all, your advice written above are great too.
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TylerFreeFlight [2017-11-21 04:19:25 +0000 UTC]
Wow That is a long piece. It makes good and valid points but you forgot one. What if Someone is here just to have fun away from real life?
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GlitchMix [2017-11-20 23:35:35 +0000 UTC]
This is good advice. I've tried most of this however, I still recieve very little feedback. It's hard to get watchers to engage with my work, I still don't know how to appeal to people enough. So far, fanart has gotten the most response, but that hasn't given me an audience. I guess drawing because it's fun is better than drawing primarily for recognition. I've learnt to not expect anything when posting, which is a good thing to me! ^^
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WALN-Zell In reply to Glo72 [2017-11-26 16:11:35 +0000 UTC]
That face when you get no views or comments.Β
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PuddingCandy [2017-11-14 06:40:19 +0000 UTC]
Well, this is a very interesting take on attention/social interaction. I guess sometimes it may vary from person to person what they expect out of uploads, but there was already a good point raised earlier about lots of uploads that it is easy to miss out on some great art.Still, personally I never cared way too much about comments/favs because usually what I draw/write up is all out of my own enjoyment and that if somebody else also enjoyed it then that's a bonus.
This was still a very good read though, because with how people are seemingly always connected/online in today's world, it is easy to get drowned out or even comparing ourselves to what is valued as perfection, so best to take it all in stride and relax every now and then
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m0t10nl3ss-cyb3rh3x [2017-11-13 18:36:10 +0000 UTC]
I know *most* of my audience. I like Pokemon and Sonic, I get watchers of one or other, and sometimes even both. Sometimes, I'll upload something a little random, perhaps a bit of Suicide SquadΒ or The Wizard of Oz, or maybe even a crossover between Pokemon and Sonic. I'm fine with that. But I'm not sure if my watchers will be fine with that, though. Like, "What if they like a different character?", or, "What if they don't like the way I draw Shadow, Sonic, and Silver?", or, "I like the character I received permission from someone else to use, but what if my watchers don't like that person's character, or what if they don't like the person who created it?" Those are common questions I make myself face when it comes to submitting something. But in the end, it doesn't even matter, because for me, it'll be worth it, because I'm doing what IΒ love.
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Jazzeh2018 [2017-11-13 15:39:58 +0000 UTC]
I have zero expectations when it comes to a story or (once in a blue moon) artwork of mine. I just do it to do it. I want to.
Very nice read!
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crystals-galaxy [2017-11-13 14:19:58 +0000 UTC]
This is good advice! And an interesting way of saying things. But i don't really care if people dislike my art or not. I mean sure i like getting comments and favorites. And want others to notice me. But i'm just a fangirl in the corner like everyone else, I like what i draw. And i draw what i want. I posted something i wanted. Even if people don't care about it. I do what i do. And i like what i do. Even if everyone hates it. I keep going. Because i do what i like. But i do understand others find it different. So it is a good thing on reading and writing this and helping others out.Β
And i wish you have a good day! Crystal~
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Cuddlepug In reply to crystals-galaxy [2017-11-13 14:22:40 +0000 UTC]
This is a really encouraging comment to read, thank you. I really love and admire your passion to draw what you want to draw and to do what you want to do ^^
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crystals-galaxy In reply to Cuddlepug [2017-11-13 14:26:38 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! I appreciate your words! And i wish others the same luck of staying on the path they like! Even if others disagree ^^
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Gloomy-Fish [2017-11-13 13:44:34 +0000 UTC]
Harsh (in a good way), true and useful
Honestly, I used to get so upset if I worked hard on something and it hardly got any faves, then I'd scribble five minute Undertale fanart and that would bee flooded with faves... I kept telling myself "what matters is that I enjoy drawing" and "at least there are people who like my drawing" and "the Undertale picture may be rushed and silly but people like it, and that's what you get when drawing fanart of a popular fandom" but... Ughhh it used to make me feel like I was doing something wrong, like I was a bad artist, and then I'd emotionally punish myself for thinking so selfishly. It was only earlier this year that I've been trying to break out of that mindset. It's hard work, but it is working - now I'm completely fine as long as something I upload gets at least one favourite (I mean, just one isn't that much to ask), and I no longer use journals and statuses as a way to document my life.
I still struggle with a picture I upload getting no favourites though - it makes me feel a really deep shame that I'd dare to keep an "unowrthy" picture in my gallery...Β
I just realise how ironic this comment is - I just rambled about myself in a wall of text... sorry
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Cuddlepug In reply to Gloomy-Fish [2017-11-13 13:49:12 +0000 UTC]
No need to apologise at all, my friend. Providing your own experience really contributes to the discussion in a productive way!
I think we all struggle when things we have created underperform against our expectations. As some solace, a lack of engagement is rarely connected to the quality of something.Β The most popular music in the charts is often not the best quality music out there, after all, itΒ has just been marketed in a way that maximises engagement. Quality doesn't come into the equation.
Receiving one favourite should not suggest that your art is unworthy in any way, it is justΒ that for whatever reason your creation isn't getting through to the maximum amount of people that it could. I'm happy to hear you are still creating.
(And your gallery, from looking at it now, is stunning for so many reasons).
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ScribblingScrabbling [2017-11-13 12:23:06 +0000 UTC]
Perfect description of my DA experience so far. I've realized that I've Been a bit vague about my descriptions, that I shouldn't be afraid of critique, I guess I just think my art is perfect at times and there's nothing to improve on but I'm still learning. From this article I'veΒ realized that I should let others help me on what could be added to add more detail, what needs to be fixed, and anything that stands out as good or bad. Thank you for making this article.
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Cuddlepug In reply to ScribblingScrabbling [2017-11-13 12:48:48 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much for this lovely comment, my friend. Receiving critique can be difficult, especially if we spend a lot of time making something. Do you find yourself looking at the views/comments/favourites on your uploads very often?
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ScribblingScrabbling In reply to Cuddlepug [2018-01-09 13:13:52 +0000 UTC]
Not quite often, I should look a bit more than I am right now. I know I'm answering this very very late but yeah, I need to check my dA more and other's input on my art and how to improve it.
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Cuddlepug In reply to Zontickles [2017-11-13 12:49:14 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! I hope you can get lots of engagement from your activity on DeviantArt :@)
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WolfieFriday [2017-11-13 05:59:05 +0000 UTC]
You have failed to make a compelling hook. Therefore, I am not willing to read three pages of this. Try again.
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Cuddlepug In reply to WolfieFriday [2017-11-13 07:35:59 +0000 UTC]
Plenty of other people have read it & seem to have found some benefit to doing so, so it's your loss, I guess :@)
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Hennico [2017-11-13 00:26:28 +0000 UTC]
(Read with calmed thinkng voice, this it's not a hate/love comment)
This is intresting.
Maybe i canΒ give a cold view on this.
Because i've never tried to share art until i uploaded here.
What i found out about it it's that, seeing other people enjoy what you've made it's a warm and encouraging feeling.
But i dont think that the lack of commentary it's due ego, i think it's only natural, with a upload rate of sometimes more than one image per second, this site it's literally flawed with talent, and if we bother to write a beep comment on every single one of the images we like, we whould eassily spend our entire day on it.
So like i did now, we only wait until some upload reach us enought to break the silence.
I think that that's the same reason why the usual temperament of internet starts from "extreme" and goes beyod that.
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Cuddlepug In reply to Hennico [2017-11-13 12:56:14 +0000 UTC]
You raise a good point, that there is an abundance of rich content available to us online. Competition to get noticed is fierce and doing something to make you stand out from the crowd can be difficult.
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Hennico In reply to Cuddlepug [2017-11-13 15:08:45 +0000 UTC]
Exactly.
And even when you stand out from the croud, your content could not connect with people enought to make them comment.
Because:
The view it's automatically (if it got my atention and i open it, you have a view)
A favorite or a "superficial" comment it's active but unexpensive (if i want to get to it again then i press fav, or comment because i like it)
And finally a "deep" comment witch not only require active partisipation and an analisis of the piece you want to comment in, but you expose your "image" (When you comment something that's not superfitial then you expose yourself to other people to say "he's a douchebag")
And not everyone it's ok with it.
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candelediva In reply to Hennico [2017-11-13 01:49:07 +0000 UTC]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul6LTUβ¦
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Hennico In reply to candelediva [2017-11-13 01:54:07 +0000 UTC]
XD!!!
I've never expeted that reaction.
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HauntingsTrash [2017-11-13 00:08:15 +0000 UTC]
I get like maybe 1 to 7 comments on a piece, and usually, it's by the same person each time.
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