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Meh, I'm just not a polisher. That's my problem. It's why The Pact's laborious inking and washing process is driving me crazy. It hasn't diminished my enthusiasm for dinosaurs, though!I did this to resist taking a nap after me ma and I did some serious spring cleaning around my house. This is as much for my reference as it is everyone else's; I break half these rules most of the time. I mean, I grew up drawing raptors like Talon from Primal Rage and the Jurassic Park raptors, who had some serious anatomical mistakes. When I was little, I drew raptors with just the feathers on their heads, like Talon (boy, was I a fan of Talon), so a lot of the feather stuff has been quite a hurdle to overcome.
I really wish I could've had a single, beautiful, unbroken line of comic pages, but I couldn't take the pressure. My artistic aesthetic needed to breathe free! Expect about a page a week from now on.
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Yes, because scientific fact is based on belief. Wouldn't want to look at the confirmation of feathers in fossils like Velociraptor, Microraptor, Acheopteryx, and Confuciusornis, the former two of which fall under the Droemasauridae "raptor" eponym and the latter two of which are transitional fossils instrumental to the relationship between archosaurs and birds.
No, no, your vague opinions based on a mid 90s video game are far more well-informed.
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You took that way to seriously...
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will help with future work involving raptors and other saurian life
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Beautiful reference here. : ) 
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I love this tutorial! Do you have it posted somewhere where it is larger? It's difficult for me to read on my screen. D:
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Great tutorial! I love drawing dragons, and knowing about dinosaurs and other existing reptiles is essential to drawing a good dragon. Also, dinosaurs are just incredibly fun and wacky critters. 
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The rule that says "don't turn back the femur more than 90 degrees" doesn't make any kind of sense in Dromaeosaurs, of all creatures. They need powerful and agile legs that give balance when the animal is moving. How does it help if the femur has such a limited range of motion? Scott Hartman's skeletal reconstructions show some raptors (particularly Bambiraptor and Utahraptor) with a femur turned slightly past the 90 degree mark, and that's for reconstructions that show the animal in a "trotting" phase, not a running one.
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Oh, wow, you know, I went looking for this raptor tutorial of yours that was infinitely better than mine, but I couldn't find it! Shit!
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But I'll take that as a challenge. If I get anything wrong when I post the tutorial, feel free to do so.
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I thought you said were gonna leave. What, will having the last word let you win at the Internet or something?
Your comment doesn't make you right by inherent virtue, and "technical flaw" is, to say the least, putting things charitably. I looked up your Scott Hartman fellow, and his drawings obey the 90 degree rule. If the femur moved backwards (not forwards) any further than 90 degrees, it would dislocate.
But why am I even bothering to point this out to you? You're just going to bitch more. Remorse, remorse, I am so very, very wrong. Please, put together your tutorial and point out to everyone how wrong and mean I am.
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you know what, this should not be a fight. You are being ridiculous fighting of what raptors were. People have their opinions on what they could be. Its not your way of the high way because we only know so little about these creatures and personally, the 90 degree angle movement makes little sense to me, but that is only my opinion
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Hey, thanks for white-knighting on an argument that ended ... what ... a year ago? There's a difference between opinion and informed opinion. YOU might not know a lot about these creatures, but I can assure you the paleontologists that study them and publish papers about them have conclusive knowledge. One of which is that the hipbone moving back farther than 90 degrees would have dislocated the animal's femur.
The Dunning-Kruger effect should not get to dictate what is fact and what isn't. Your "opinion" has no bearing on scientific truth. I'm sorry if its hard to process, but it's not my job to fix willful ignorance.
Read a book on maniraptors/droemaesaurs.
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I am pretty sure this is why that argument started....but i think its the way you say things that make people mad. i know quite a bit about dinosaurs...but not everything...no one does...but your knowledge is leading yourself into the pit of being an arrogant snob. You can be nice about things. But nice art work by the way
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This time, I spoke up for the sake of scientific accuracy. Didn't know this would get under your skin, too. But I'm always ignorable, in any case. Fine, I'll just shut up.
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You certainly seem to think getting the last word is important. It's happened every time we've argued. It's difficult to leave anything alone when the closest thing I get to an answer or acknowledgement is a childish, sarcastic retort that has nothing to do with the conversation.
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I pointed out a technical flaw, Droemar. Getting sarcastic about it doesn't make you right. (By the way, I wasn't "scavenging" for excuses to criticize you - this flaw bothered me for a while, so I decided to say something about it)
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This will probably come in handy!!!
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This tutorial reminds me of how the raptors in Jurassic Park had a lot of snake qualities in their design:
Their irises were slanted, instead of round like a bird
They had a head vaguely shaped like an anaconda's. RL velociraptor's head had a narrower snout I think.
and their teeth were curved like fangs, with lips instead of an overbite like RL therapods.
Neat additions to make a scary movie villain, but a surprising contrast to the bird dinos of real life.
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That is so true. Didn't realize how similar they were. Nice point man
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Great tutorial, dude! I just wanted to point out one thing: recent studies concluded that raptors were most likely nocturnal, not diurnal.
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I wish I had found this like, a day earlier. XD It would have come in handy with my first raptor drawing.
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YES! someone who doesn't have the Raptor's palms facing the chest like Jurassic Park!
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This will definately come into great use! Thanks for sharing!
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Interestingly, the size and shape of the scleral ring in several dromaeosaurids suggest they were nocturnal or crepuscular.
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The tails did act as balencing rods but, the tail RARELY moved.Over all VERY well done, i`m both impressed and jealious...
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Ahh they're so cute <3
I love the faces
XD
Once again I get distracted by something I like rather than what I was actually looking for
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Very nice tutorial and so informative. Thank you!
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*insert girly squeal here* you have NO idea how long i've been looking for raptor stock/tutorials O.O you have made my day good sir/madam! <3
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Hooray for a most awesome and wonderful reference! While the raptors that i would be drawing for novels and such are not as "politically correct", shall we say, as real ones, as they have evolved for longer, this is still great stuff to know, and should be helpful with my sucky drawing skills. You are my hero for the day Droemar
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Thank you so much! I didn't know that thing about the leg until just now!
This'll be helpful in my animated series; I've got a velociraptor character there.
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Epic win! I have to say, this is UBER helpfull!
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I didn't know about the jaw-bunching thing because of the muscle.
I don't draw my raptors with the leg THAT far back.... any one with it that far back while running and not on four legs will fall over.
Who else thinks that the pictures of raptors with the tail almost straight up and back kinda silly?
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Huh. Didn't know that about the hind leg not being able to swing backwards. Very interesting- and very helpful!
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Nice reference, This will prove helpful for my future endeavors!
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This is a very nice reference! I'm sure I can make use of this in the future. I need all the help I can get.
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Man, this is brilliant. I'm using this as a reference for a pic I'm doing based on a scene from CARNOSAUR (the novel, not the film), in which a deinonychus chases a horse
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Oooh, cool. Let me know when it's done!
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Done!
Please be aware that the novel was written in 1984 (before they discovered that dromaeosaurs had feathers), and plus... its my first time drawing a horse
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No problem! I havent drawn dinosaurs in AGES (got caught up in the canine mania), and I've never drawn horses before, so its definitely a challenge.
On a side note, as a theropod lover, I really recommend CARNOSAUR. It is infinitely better than the film adaptation, and preceded Jurassic Park by six years.
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this helped me a lot. But I'm not really good with feathers
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This is a fantastic reference - well thought out and sketched in that beautiful loose form that always makes me reach for a pencil. Thanks!
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Awesome, so useful, thank you!! I am totally faving this.
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Nice Tutorial! 
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