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Working on a fan Animorphs comic with ~HotPinkCoffee who wrote a super script based on book #20 The Discovery.Marco escapes a pummeling and to his surprise spies the Andalite morphing cube aka the Escafil device peeking out of a stranger's backpack.
This is just the line art. Colors are planned... sigh. D:
Animorphs story and characters (c) K.A. Applegate
Read more here: Animorphs: #20 The Discovery
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Rain-and-Thunder [2011-07-24 01:32:37 +0000 UTC]
I never liked the way they treated David. Don't get me wrong, I love animorphs and Rachel is my fav, but that just seemed to me like one of their bigger mistakes. I just think they could have been a little nicer is all. Instead of treating David like a prisoner, they coud have treated him like a comrade.
I think he wouldn't have went nuts then. mig be the only one to think this though lol
BTW, this is so awesome I can't stop looking. XD
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Kra-ZGirl In reply to Rain-and-Thunder [2015-04-30 03:40:09 +0000 UTC]
just got reading the 3 part book with david and Are you NUTS!? He was a psychopath from the get go! Don't tell me you bought his lies.
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Rain-and-Thunder In reply to Kra-ZGirl [2015-04-30 04:23:09 +0000 UTC]
No and he wasn't, he was upset about his parents like any child would be. And I posted this comment ages ago, your free to think as you will, but on that same note so am I. I don't go calling you crazy for what you think.
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Kra-ZGirl In reply to Rain-and-Thunder [2015-04-30 20:30:06 +0000 UTC]
yes it was posted ages ago. Yes he was upset about losing his parents and his home (who wouldn't?)
And I apologize that my comment came out as an insult to you.
To me the word crazy isn't an insult, I like to think I my-self is crazy everyday It makes life more interesting for me. and yes everyone is entitled to their own opinion and free thinking.
I'm not here to change your opinion about David, I'm here to understand why you would give sympathy for David?
Don't get me wrong I do feel bad for him that he lost his parents, but he committed terrible things as an animorph before they faced Visser 3. Before attempting to kill the other members.Β
To me David is the type of person who would more then likely be a voluntary host just so he can play "kill the aliens" for real. He was only interested for himself. And I bet he never once thought "Maybe I can save my parents by winning this war." Or "find a way to trap them and starve the yeerk to death".
But instead he makes comments like "We can rob banks as animals and be rich." Not to mention he killed a crow for no reason (and don't say he got lost in the eagle morph because I don't buy that story). He also had no guilt of wanting to kill Jake, Tobias and the others.Β
He cares no one but himself. He gets no sympathy from me.
Your turn why do you give sympathy to David?
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Rain-and-Thunder In reply to Kra-ZGirl [2015-05-01 08:24:44 +0000 UTC]
Because I see him as a torn up child who didn't have the best home life to began with. Then he accidentally finds something that he thinks is a stroke of luck, something he can sell. ( I can sympathize with that having no money )
Then he gets the shock of his life and while I understand the animorphs locking him up for his safety he was still led to feel more like a prisoner then a comrade. No one tried to understand his grief, or what he might be suffering, and I think his violent acts were a way of venting what he didn't know how to get out.
I feel like all of this happened and while yes they pulled him away there was little compassion shown and that was what helped push him to what he did. I mean Rachel if my favorite Animorph but I felt ...well upset by things. I felt like if this had happened or that it might have been different, and I tried to put myself in his shoes asking how I'd have felt.
Honestly I'd have felt upset too, felt like I was more of a hostage and less of a friend, feeling like I was held against my will, not trusted, looked at like a was nothing short of a burden. That was what I got out of those three books and why I have sympathy for David. And thing is I thought I would hate him at first, but I couldn't because everyone else did.
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Kra-ZGirl In reply to Rain-and-Thunder [2015-05-04 16:02:18 +0000 UTC]
I just recently saw a video about how making pokemon evolve through friendship isn't nonsense. Of how caring for your pokemon is the same as caring for a person. And the levels (from the bottom to the top) was: Physiological needs, Safety, Love/belonging, Esteem and finally Self-actualization.
youtu.be/vRP8Ix4V8S0?t=3m38s <-- here is the vid I saw starting at 3:38 on this subject.
And it made me think about what you said, what I know about David and whit I learned from the video.
I know that David moved a lot because of his father's work. His father wasn't around a lot because of his work. David may have had the Physiological needs and safety, but he never got the Love/belonging because he moved so much. Never learning on how to have proper friends or to grow properly as a person. Sure his parents may have loved him but I have a feeling that his parents only showed that through material means. (he had a cobra, a computer and a TV in his room.) And while that is cool to have, but all it is are items and nothing more. My mom shows her love through material means and while I am grateful for what she does, all I ever wanted from her is to hold me and hug me if I had a horrible day or I am depressed. She is not a hugger.
Did his mom read him bedtime stories when he was younger? Did his parents praise him for doing any good deeds? I don't know.
So who knows how long he has never had love/belonging and with out that he never had the Esteem.
So as you said his life was unstable, but I think his family had the money so I don't they were poor. His father was, in short, a spy and it proved he wasn't lying since controller father rolled up with something equal to a swat team in the book.
and to selling the cube? Hey if I found something that could be dedicated to history/science/collector I would find a way to sell it to get some money. He just didn't know the danger that came with it.
So now that his life is uprooted and turned upside down, are the Animorphs treatment to him justifies? well... knowing what I know now. Yes and No. I think it's both the Group's and David's fault for David's action... at least to an extent.
I think that since David's life is gone he closed himself off to them to an extent. Since his life was unstable and he himself was unstable the trauma just... shut him off I guess. Making him refuse any help or kindness that was given. because he no longer hadΒ the Physiological needs and safety that he was use to.
And for the Animorphs? I think they gave him the power to morph too soon. If they wanted him to join, the proper way would be to start with what he lost. the Physiological need and Safety. But since the situation with the mission with the president was first priority, they had to do something that was temporary.
so lets just say the mission didn't exist so we could find a way to help David.
so lets say we found a permanent place for him to stay with all the food and water needed and a place to sleep. The Physiological need has been met. Next is safety.
What would be a place for him to feel safe from the yeers? ... well technically nothing since they could be everywhere so it would have to be something that would make him feel safe. They could have asked the Chi to make him something that would give a hologram around him to make him look different. So at least he can walk around town with out being recognized.Β
So now he has safety. (remember this is all theoretical)
next is belonging. At this point he still shouldn't have the morphing power yet, I think he still needs to mentally recover from what happen before he is thrown into a situation that he is not ready for.
so in order to feel like he is belonging he needs to open up and for the group to be patient with him. This process could take months before he is feels like he belongs in the group (depending how willing each person is willing to move forward including David)
And once Friendships and trust is established with each other THEN David can have the morphing power. This will help him with Esteem which he will naturally grow intoΒ Self-actualization.
But instead of the best possible situation for David, we get the wort possible situation. The mission distracted Jake from making a proper decision on David's well being. Adding stress to the group and David. Forcing them both to adapt and hope for the best for a split decision. And the outcome? Turning an already unstable person into a monster. David didn't want to adapt for the better because there was noΒ Physiological need or safety for him to recover in. They could give him as much love and belonging to him all day long but he wouldn't accept it because there was no foundation for him to be on. So he made his own and made his own belonging that was unstable.Β
and so begins his decent into insanity.Β
so knowing this now... I do give sympathy to David a little more. But only to the part were he attempting to kill Tobias and Jake. Because at that point, the answer to making David an animorph as been answered. It was a bad Idea. So now the new problem, David has became a threat to them and to humanity by choosing to kill. David went past to the point of no return because he chose to kill the animorphs. Chose to end a human life.
That to me is unforgivable.
so from the Cube to David choosing to kill is everyone's fault. But from David choosing to kill and beyond is all David's.
This is why I like to learn other peoples reasoning You never know what you can learn
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Rain-and-Thunder In reply to Kra-ZGirl [2015-05-04 19:57:19 +0000 UTC]
yea I admit him trying to kill them was wrong, made me smack my forehead. It was just to me like you said the stuff that could have been prevented. In a way I felt like I was the only one who was sympathetic about anything that went on with him, that every animorph fan aside from me was bloodthirsty and just wanted to see him die because that's the usual treatment I get. >.<
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Kra-ZGirl In reply to Rain-and-Thunder [2015-05-05 17:00:18 +0000 UTC]
I guess a lot of the people didn't understand the psychological part of the problem. A lot of people read the books as kids years ago and I'm sure none of them were 10 year olds in school to be a therapist. (if there are some then hey way to go kid )
And I'm not someone who studies the psychological stuff, so me finding that video made me think. I still think David is a monster but now only after the point of no return.
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Rain-and-Thunder In reply to Kra-ZGirl [2015-05-06 16:56:44 +0000 UTC]
But when I felt bad for David I think I was like..12-13 ish. Somewhere along that age and that was where I started wondering what I did. XD
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Charlene-Art [2011-07-08 14:38:32 +0000 UTC]
Hilarious! I've forgotten Marcos sense of humour!
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piratemari [2010-11-18 19:34:05 +0000 UTC]
Don't give up!!! I like it so far. This is making me want to check out all the Animorphs books again and re-read them. XD
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fauxfolklore In reply to piratemari [2010-11-19 16:23:33 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the encouragement! I still have like four more pages to do for the section of script ~HotPinkCoffee sent me. Daunting, but I WILL finish it by the end of this year.
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piratemari In reply to fauxfolklore [2010-12-01 18:15:35 +0000 UTC]
I know you can do it, you definitely have the talent and I really think you have the perseverance, too.
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fauxfolklore In reply to praxcrown5 [2010-11-02 02:54:56 +0000 UTC]
Yep, and there's more to come, time willing.
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