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This is the coyote that was found as roadkill a couple nights ago. She has nice, thick winter fur and, since this is the largest animal I have yet skinned, she took five hours to skin out completely.First picture is me and my friend after having only gotten one leg done!
Second picture is the fully skinned pelt of the coyote. I love her colors and thick fur.
Disclaimer: I did not kill this animal! It was found already dead on the side of the road where it would have simply rotted away to nothing. If you do not like what you see, don't look at it! Also, don't bother wasting your time leaving rude or pointless comments here, they will be ignored.
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AdarkerNEMISIS In reply to ??? [2009-11-22 16:59:04 +0000 UTC]
i did see one, it was crazy, but also we dont get other animals around little tiny bit of coyote but not much
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MBerryArt In reply to ??? [2009-11-20 02:12:02 +0000 UTC]
hmm... interesting! I see dead coyotes around here on the roads a lot, I hate seeing them just... rot there!
Is the tanning process difficult/expensive? It might be worth trying next time I see one...
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FossilFeather In reply to MBerryArt [2009-11-21 22:58:34 +0000 UTC]
It is rather time consuming but I think it's worth it. If you note me your email, I have a step-by-step tutorial that I found to be most helpful.
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HawthornHare In reply to ??? [2009-11-17 09:40:43 +0000 UTC]
A while ago I noticed a red fox on the road, with the most beautiful flame red pelt Its horrible that she died, but I am both ever the oppertunist, &* hate seeing them just decay at the roadside... So I went out again with my mum to try to get to her, but she was hit on this really awkward part of the road, its impossible to drag her away... I might come back in a few months for her bones, but I really wanted some of her fur to send off to *Wolf-of-Samhain to make a bracelet (Shes too decayed to save all of her fur
) Maybe I can still find a way of getting her fur.....
I love how each animal developes such a story behind themselves if you get them yourself
At the mo, I have an entire cat that I need to work with yet, a camel skull & shoulder plate, mice skulls & bones & (most creppy ) a mouse tumour preserved in a jar...
Glad to know I'm not a lone freak here!!
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FossilFeather In reply to HawthornHare [2009-11-17 21:49:58 +0000 UTC]
Aww, poor fox. I hope you'll be able to save something from her.
Ohh, wow! A camel skull? How did you come by that? And mouse tumor... ew.
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HawthornHare In reply to FossilFeather [2009-11-18 23:21:06 +0000 UTC]
The foxy will be really soggy & rotten by now ...; I think I'll wait for the bones
Its raining so heavily outside...
As for the camel, I went to Egypt over the summer. We were driving through the desert (on a road, not just through the sand ) & I'd been keeping my eyes open for anything of natural interest. & then I saw it... Not too far from the main road, sun-bleached bones, glinting in the glare of the rays. The ribs were sticking up out of the sand like a birdcage or a boat's frame, & the rest was half buried. I kept the skull, jawbone & shoulder plate, though I fiddled around with much more too. But I couldn't keep it all, it would've weighed too much to bring back. Apparently there are no woild camels around there, they all belong to the tribes
The mouse tumour was from my pet, Aztec. She had an opperation to remove it, & I asked if I could keep it, to disect.. But I just ended up keeping it
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FossilFeather In reply to HawthornHare [2009-11-18 23:46:31 +0000 UTC]
Haha, wow... A real camel harvested from the country it lived in. That is an epic tale. Did you have to clean it or have any special papers to export in and out of the countries?
That's a good story too about the tumor. What kind of liquid is it being preserved in?
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HawthornHare In reply to FossilFeather [2009-11-19 12:34:16 +0000 UTC]
There was some foul, musty smelling crap in it's skull, where the brain would have been.. It was grainy & looked like eggs opf some insect, which there were also dead ones of O.o I just stayed up that night, clearing this deris wih an old paint brush, mostly jabbing lightly with its handle. It was clean & old anyway.
But sometimes I wish I'd done more to it, perhaps with hydrogen peroxide, 'cause occasionally I get wifts of dead camel in my bedroom... Its an odd smell (I can't picture "Essence Of Deseased Camel" becoming a huge purfume hit
)
I wonder how it died, some of it's lighter bones were further away from the body, & knawed, suggesting jackals or fennecs (Which I think I saw a wild one of, it was dusk & it bolted in front of the car, I couldn't really tell ) had been a-scavenging.
We just wrapped it up in my suitcase & didn't let nyone know in the airport about it... I just loved it too much to risk it, & it was dead for so long that it couldn't still carry any parasites.
I'm not sure what liquid Aztec's tumour is stored in, I can find out when I'm next at the vets... Unfortunately the tumours came back after the Op, so I had to have her put to sleep Though the op itself was a sucess.
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darkcoyoteart In reply to HawthornHare [2011-05-17 16:07:15 +0000 UTC]
To get rid of the smell you need to degrease it first (soak it in water with dish soap for a few days- keep changing the water til it comes clean- you can help the process by scrubbing with an old toothbrush or something). After you have done that, you can whiten with peroxide if you want (I'd suggest painting it on vs soaking it for something so big), but it's more degreasing vs peroxide it needs.
Also you are lucky they didn't notice! You can get in huge trouble if they do and you are transporting animal goods without papers.
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HawthornHare In reply to darkcoyoteart [2011-08-17 12:21:23 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! I have a few days to myself in which I can finally get around to my dead friends I have so much roadkill to defrost & get cracking on! It'll be great to know how to clean their bones too, thanks
Oh I know! I still don't know if that was worse than the live baby hamster I brought back from Italy xDD
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darkcoyoteart In reply to HawthornHare [2011-08-20 22:46:37 +0000 UTC]
Lol oh man I'm in the same boat. Many of my friends and family are uncomfortable with my hobby so I have to wait til I have time by myself, or my one friend is over who will help with bigger things. Though I'm winning my parents over.. they don't want to see it.. but they are giving me a freezer for roadkill- if only so they don't have to worry about squirrels next to the ice cream lmao.
Oy! Just watch if you ever go through Greece though. I had a friend who was detained there because her art bag had been next to a bag used to smuggle drugs. She almost ended up with a cavity search! o-o
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FossilFeather In reply to HawthornHare [2009-11-21 23:46:51 +0000 UTC]
I'm sorry about your mouse having to be put down. Tomour seem to sadly be a common thing in small domestic rodents.
Eww, "Essence Of Deseased Camel"... I can't say that I'd be lining up to buy that. You could still soak it in in hydrogen peroxide as long as you had a container big enough for it. I'm sure that would take care of the smell.
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HawthornHare In reply to FossilFeather [2009-11-22 14:42:42 +0000 UTC]
Especially mice They breed them in labs with the intention of breeding cancers ect into the genes, so its a garuntee that almost every mouse will get it
THEN, whats worse, they sometimes sell any unusual mutations to show breeders (which I was, not that I ever bought from a lab, just other breeders). Which then means theres lots of sick mice strains in petshop mice, meaning most mice bought as pets will die of cancer
If I ever get back into breeding mice, I'll breed a truely healthy strain of Red mice (my fav breed - the colour of red setter dogs
, ones that'll win, too
The camel smell is mostly gone by now... I like the natural mottled white & biscuit colours of my camel, I'm scared that Hydrogen Peroxide would bleach that from it. Also, it woul make it all scientific smelling & looking, & while thats nice or some poeople, I personally prefer the earthy browns
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FossilFeather In reply to HawthornHare [2009-11-22 20:43:36 +0000 UTC]
That's just terrible. Humans sure do some foolish things sometimes.
Ah, well that's good then. And yes, the natural colors of bone can be very attractive. Do you have any pictures of it?
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HawthornHare In reply to FossilFeather [2009-11-22 21:08:23 +0000 UTC]
Yes! My least favourite species, humans.
I don't, & I will take them, but our camera is kicking up a fiuss at the moment, so it'll be a while before I can upload them. But I'll let you know when I do
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FossilFeather In reply to HawthornHare [2009-11-22 21:24:48 +0000 UTC]
Okay, awesome! I do look forward to it.
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seriousbadger In reply to ??? [2009-11-16 19:27:32 +0000 UTC]
wow the skin is perfect!
I love the colors C: Do you gonna get it professionally tanned?
Very nice skinning job
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FossilFeather In reply to seriousbadger [2009-11-16 22:08:56 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! I'm going to tan it myself. I've got all the right chemicals and the know-how so it should turn out all right. So far, I've successfully completed tanning a chipmunk as well as a squirrel.
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seriousbadger In reply to FossilFeather [2009-11-18 15:18:41 +0000 UTC]
awesome, good luck! Make sure to show some pictures when you are done c:
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iho-ja-luu In reply to ??? [2009-11-16 17:14:15 +0000 UTC]
That coyote good some beautiful coloring, how soft is it'?
Also you did a great job skinning this
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FossilFeather In reply to iho-ja-luu [2009-11-16 17:57:47 +0000 UTC]
I'm not sure yet since, for safety's sake, I've only ever touched her through my disposable gloves. I'll be able to fully touch her once she's all done and tanned though.
And thanks!
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iho-ja-luu In reply to FossilFeather [2009-11-16 18:11:58 +0000 UTC]
heh okay, when is she done with the tan'?
You're welcome c:
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FossilFeather In reply to iho-ja-luu [2009-11-16 22:13:27 +0000 UTC]
I'm planning on leaving her in the pickle for the next four days before fleshing her. Then it's back into the pickle for another couple days before I can take her out and apply the tan and the oil and that process usually takes about two-three days. So a little over a week I guess?
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iho-ja-luu In reply to FossilFeather [2009-11-17 07:01:15 +0000 UTC]
Oh okay thank you so much for the information
Also i want to ask: what is the best way to skin the tail'?
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FossilFeather In reply to iho-ja-luu [2009-11-17 22:06:24 +0000 UTC]
Ah, the tail... x.x On small animals, it's usually very easy. You just get a good grip on the part of the spine that goes into the tail and give it a good firm pull. With some effort, the bones will usually all pull out leaving you with a perfectly undamaged tail. You then carefully snip a straight line down the underside of the tail (all the way to the end) with scissors so that the flesh will be exposed for salting.
Bigger animals like my coyote are not that easy. I had to carefully separate the skin from the tail bones/tendons and it was incredibly difficult. I accidentally cut into her tail skin several times (I will have to stabilize it later to discourage potential tears) and I even slipped and the tip of my knife caught the underside of my left hand and cut through my protective glove making a small, but annoying puncture wound. I sterilized it right away with rubbing alcohol and it's been healing up fine with no traces of infection but when skinning something, I always try my hardest NOT to cut myself.
I have heard of a tool for taxidermists called a "tail stripper" which makes the job much easier once you get the hang of it and I plan on researching this a bit and possibly buying one in the future.
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iho-ja-luu In reply to FossilFeather [2009-11-18 06:55:30 +0000 UTC]
Okay thank you
I had been thinking about that for awhile
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Featherologist In reply to ??? [2009-11-16 08:43:43 +0000 UTC]
*Is now going to ask the strangest question yet*
If she were male, would you have left the penis on?
I just had to do it
Goodness, 5 hours???!!!! She's gonna be worth it, I bet What does that squirrel tshirt say? Is it yours?
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FossilFeather In reply to Featherologist [2009-11-16 17:13:51 +0000 UTC]
Haha, that is a weird question but a good one. This is my first canine pelt and my furriest. The little male rodents I've done have been trimmed around the edges of their pelt to give them a more streamlined, smooth look but with an incredibly fluffy canine, the fur would be enough to keep the edge of the pelt fairly even looking even if there was penis left on. So. I probably would have left it on or at least most of it.
And yes. That squirrel shirt is mine. It says, "I talk to squirrels. Chikoo. Chikoo. Chikoo." I knew when I saw it that I had to have it due to all the times that I have stopped and exchanged chitter chatter with those little rodents.
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Featherologist In reply to FossilFeather [2009-11-17 23:55:52 +0000 UTC]
Cool! I don't need to bother with bunnies, thank goodness. I don't know what I'd do with them
Do I get a sticky gold star for wierdest question of the year?
Hahaha, I love that tshirt! I talk to pigeons Also, is that Ben's/Kruger's tag I spot? Eheh sorry if I'm diving too personal again, I have way too much curiousity for my own good *Gives a guilty doggy grin*
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FossilFeather In reply to Featherologist [2009-11-18 00:16:34 +0000 UTC]
Yes, yes, you can has a shiny, gold star!
A person I used to know was super good at making the Mourning Dove coo. I don't know if you have those birds by you but they sound very similar to pigeons.
And yep, the red tag is the one Kruger was wearing when we adopted him. I was wondering if anyone would spot the tag. Figures it'd be you who'd catch it!
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Featherologist In reply to FossilFeather [2009-11-18 16:46:26 +0000 UTC]
*Sticks the gold star on her tshirt and puffs chest out proudly*
A mourning dove? *rushes off to google images to look*
I don't believe we do have those here, but I could be wrong I don't really coo at the pigeons, I just sort of 'click' at them and share my bun if I get one from the bakery. It upsets me to see people kicking at them to get them away sometimes
Weeee, do I get a silver star for catching it? By the way, I forgot to mention. I LOVE your combats
You must have an awesome wardrobe
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FossilFeather In reply to Featherologist [2009-11-19 01:08:39 +0000 UTC]
People kick at them? How terrible. I'd be thrilled to have them come up to me.
And yes, you can have a silver star to accompany the gold one.
Thanks! I've got the black combat boots too. I really enjoy my wardrobe for the most part though the average female certainly would not deem it "awesome".
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Featherologist In reply to FossilFeather [2009-11-19 16:47:03 +0000 UTC]
I know, they just see them as feathered rats I've never seen one come into physical contact with them (pigeons are quicker than you'd think!) but the intention is clear. Also it really really annoys me when kids chase them. Kill the kid
*Sticks the silver sticky and gold sticky together on her ballpoint sketch of Tahlin*
I saw your boots, they is awesome too! I don't really care what the average female thinks. I love your taste in clothes, hate what the average female wears. It's fashion here to wear tight black leggings with a stupid frilly girly long top and eye-wateringly bright coloured flat shoes. Don't they have any idea how stupid they look?
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FossilFeather In reply to Featherologist [2009-11-21 23:34:31 +0000 UTC]
Lol! Yeah, most of the in style female clothes today are really brightly colored and just look rather garish. It goes completely against my instinct to wear earthy colors and blend in as much as I can. I do have a couple of red t-shirts (brightest clothes I have and wear regularly) and I want to kick myself every time I'm out in the woods and realize what I'm wearing. x.x
I guess my clothes simply state my earthy/natural personality. And the females wearing the brightly colored clothing is a clear indicator that they want to be seen and get noticed. Funny how much clothing tells about people.
Awr... I chase birds on occasion... *lowers head* I have no expectations of catching them or hurting them but I love the rush of the chase and seeing them rise up into the sky. Maybe it's the dog in me that enjoys that so much.
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Featherologist In reply to FossilFeather [2009-11-23 23:11:55 +0000 UTC]
But in the human natural habitat, bright clothes help them blend in. Also thier brightly coloured attire helps them to attract a mate, and is a good cause for social benefits Take one of these humans out of thier natural habitat and thier fur and health suffers
Hmmmm.... what do my clothes say about me then? *Is wearing her favourite, very old jeans and tshirt she got from the IOW zoo*
As long as you have no intention of harming them Goodness knows what's going through those kids' minds.....
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FossilFeather In reply to Featherologist [2009-11-24 06:03:16 +0000 UTC]
Haha, I love describing human behavior as the narrators do in animal documentaries. And the funny thing is, it usually fits.
Hmm, I'm going to say that I think your clothes say that you enjoy comfortableness and lack of formality in your daily life. Which would also explain your disdain for fancy, stiff clothing.
I will not hurts the birdies, I promise!
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Featherologist In reply to FossilFeather [2009-11-26 19:14:44 +0000 UTC]
We should make one together!! That would be hilarious
Yay, my clothing reflects me As do yours
It's quite amazing the way you can see what people are like by thier clothes
Ok, you can go chase birdies!
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WolvesWithin In reply to ??? [2009-11-16 03:38:56 +0000 UTC]
Stunning! You two are very skilled at skinning, not much blood or anything! You two really saved a wonderful amount of her pelt, great great job. One of the best ways to get a great pelt is to do it yourself! ^^
Have any names come to you yet for her?
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FossilFeather In reply to WolvesWithin [2009-11-16 04:21:02 +0000 UTC]
Yep! We got her entire pelt except for a little of her chin which I purposely left since I won't need that for the style of pelt I'll be making with her. Skinning actually isn't that hard and as long as you don't cut into the muscles or any large veins/blood vessels, it won't be very bloody at all.
I don't have a name for her yet but I know that I want something earthy and natural sounding. My other female coyote pelt is named Kestrel after the bird.
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WolvesWithin In reply to FossilFeather [2009-11-16 04:35:48 +0000 UTC]
Ah, good. Yeah, I saw the bit of chin left in one of your other pictures. Really? My dad would never let me watch him skin a deer, so I personally wouldn't know. It does take practice though I'm sure.
That sounds nice. She deserves something of the earth and more natural I thing. She's gorgeous.
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FossilFeather In reply to WolvesWithin [2009-11-16 06:09:08 +0000 UTC]
Really? Why wouldn't he let you watch?
And thanks! I'm a little nervous about the preservation process (I always am) just in case any of the chemical balances go off and I end up ruining the hide but I've successfully tanned a chipmunk and squirrel so far so I'm hoping she will turn out just as good.
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WolvesWithin In reply to FossilFeather [2009-11-16 23:04:24 +0000 UTC]
Oh, he was just afraid that I would be freaked out or something. I've tried to tell him before that I'm fine with it, but he simply can't seem to grasp that a girl like me could stand it. xD Even after I had to dissect a piglet in school for an experiment and got one of the best grades in the class he still wouldn't believe me.
I'm sure you'll be fine. Good luck with her!
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RatofSpring In reply to ??? [2009-11-16 01:30:14 +0000 UTC]
*stares at muscle* thats really cool...
what do you do with the rest of the animal after skinning?
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FossilFeather In reply to RatofSpring [2009-11-16 04:32:12 +0000 UTC]
I put her body under a large wooden box where the bugs will clean off most of the flesh and stuff once spring rolls around and things warm up outside. After that, I'll collect the bones and disinfect them.
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RatofSpring In reply to FossilFeather [2009-11-16 21:55:06 +0000 UTC]
thats so cool...
thanks for sharing
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DustyVinci In reply to ??? [2009-11-16 00:49:17 +0000 UTC]
omg there's like hardly ANY blood! Is that because it had been sitting dead for a while? I MIGHT be able to skin something if it isn't a huge bloody, gorry (sp?), messy mess LOL
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firedanceryote In reply to DustyVinci [2011-04-30 07:20:38 +0000 UTC]
Long as you're careful skinning there is little to no blood. The only time I've ever had blood in skinning was on a shrew killed by a cat who had bit through the skull and jugular vein to kill it. When I got to the bite area there was blood there because it had pooled under the skin. Even that wasn't awful.
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FossilFeather In reply to DustyVinci [2009-11-16 05:59:23 +0000 UTC]
It's hardly bloody at all just so long as you don't cut into the muscle or puncture any veins/blood vessels. Hollywood just likes making things like this really gory and messy. In reality, it's not too bad.
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SpiritDragonWolf In reply to ??? [2009-11-16 00:48:43 +0000 UTC]
Those are indeed some amazing colors! I love how rich and red they are! Man, I'd trade you a few other prairie dog skulls/bits for her skull, I adore coyotes...
--Spiritwolf
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