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Description Note: THIS IS JUST MY OPINION!!!


I'm just gonna say this now, I like Infinite.  I like his design, and voice.  Plus, I don't find how he was written to be all that bad.  Compared to Mephiles, I just find him better over all.  Hell, I'll even say that in terms of backstory.

Granted, Infinite's backstory could've been executed better, but I actually liked what they tried to do considering how a lot of villains are built up around this concept (Ex. Venom from Spiderman).  His entire squad was destroyed by Shadow, who manages to kick Infinite's ass.  Shadow pretty much tells him to "fuck off,"  leaving Infinite raging.  This is why everyone hates Infinite alone since it feels poorly executed, and I made fun of it to... I wont lie there.  But think about it, his entire squad was annihilated and was humiliated by Shadow.  The fact that he couldn't enact some revenge alone made him crave for more power, hence the Phantom Ruby.  

My problem with Mephiles though isn't so much his backstory though, but rather his plan.  Some made the argument that Mephiles killed Sonic, so he's better, and while that Infinite could've killed Sonic at the Luminous Forest, there are three problems with this argument.

1.) If he wanted to make Princess Elise cry just to release Iblis, then why doesn't he just do it himself?  Taking words from Clement's Review, just push her down a flight of stairs or better yet, just kill her.  For one, he'd be doing the world a favor if he did, and two, if Elise dying on the Egg Carrier Crashing releases Iblis, Information that he already knew, why doesn't he do just that?  It would give him a better reason to kill Sonic.

2.) If Mephiles could kill Sonic that easily, why doesn't he just do that from the start?  This dude can Time Travel.  In fact... Why bother targeting Elise to begin with?

3.) Mephilies can time travel and he could've joined with Iblis at any point when Iblis was out.  I can see why he wouldn't pick the future considering how he needs Iblis in his purest form.  What about when they both split in the past, or when Elise died on the Egg Carrier?  All he would need is one Chaos Emerald and he'll merge with Iblis and become Solaris.


At least with Infinite, he actually puts his abilities to better use and manages to defeat Sonic in the beginning of Forces.  He also manages to put Shadow in this Virtual Reality Trip, and considering how annoying that stage (Virtual Reality) is, I can see why he would think it would kill Shadow.  

As far as preference goes, I like Infinite's design just for the mask and glitch effects alone, and I'll certainly take Liam O' Brian's performance over Dan Green's take on Mephiles any day of the week.


Infinite is by no mean's perfect, but I'll gladly take him over Mephiles.
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RerunNumber17 [2024-03-07 03:33:13 +0000 UTC]

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NonToxicSonicFan [2021-06-04 07:08:22 +0000 UTC]

Infinite: meets Sonic

Mephiles: doesn’t meet Sonic

I think Infinite’s backstory should’ve been better though instead of him having a tantrum because he thought Shadow called him weak but in reality,he called him worthless and as for Mephiles,I agree that his plan might be plan and stupid but shouldn’t he went back in time to fuse with Iblis rather than killing Sonic in front of Elise to free him from his imprisonment?

I know this is like 3 years already.

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josue7x In reply to NonToxicSonicFan [2024-11-14 02:21:25 +0000 UTC]

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edmondsarah76 [2021-05-20 23:12:39 +0000 UTC]

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banjothewutaikuma [2018-11-06 02:55:13 +0000 UTC]

I find infinite as joke villian to me his persona takes jabs at edgy characters.

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SonicTeam765 [2018-11-01 20:24:45 +0000 UTC]

Flagged as Spam

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gameman5804 In reply to SonicTeam765 [2018-11-01 20:40:41 +0000 UTC]

"Note: THIS IS JUST MY OPINION!!!"

Call it shit all you want, at least I wasn't calling my own preference fact.

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SonicTeam765 In reply to gameman5804 [2018-11-01 20:41:49 +0000 UTC]

Flagged as Spam

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gameman5804 In reply to SonicTeam765 [2018-11-01 20:52:15 +0000 UTC]

Yet my statement remains strong.
sorry buddy.

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SonicTeam765 In reply to gameman5804 [2018-11-01 20:59:03 +0000 UTC]

Flagged as Spam

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gameman5804 In reply to SonicTeam765 [2018-11-01 21:00:45 +0000 UTC]

It's still my opinion.  Everyone is allowed to have one.

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SonicTeam765 In reply to gameman5804 [2018-11-01 21:03:06 +0000 UTC]

Flagged as Spam

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gameman5804 In reply to SonicTeam765 [2018-11-01 21:08:19 +0000 UTC]

Just an opinion.  You have one, I have one, everyone does.

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PrinceVegeta76 [2018-09-02 21:00:19 +0000 UTC]

Erazor Djinn was a better Mephiles than Mephiles

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Saleh3Hossam [2018-04-11 21:19:51 +0000 UTC]

Sonic/Eggman was with her the entire time, thats why he couldn't kill her out right. 

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gameman5804 In reply to Saleh3Hossam [2018-04-11 21:26:53 +0000 UTC]

He could easily kill Sonic and Eggman or merge with Iblis when the Egg Carrier crashed.

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Saleh3Hossam In reply to gameman5804 [2018-04-12 19:32:08 +0000 UTC]

maybe he doesn't want to be discovered. 

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gameman5804 In reply to Saleh3Hossam [2018-04-12 19:47:46 +0000 UTC]

From behind? That’s what he does to kill Sonic in the last story.

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Saleh3Hossam In reply to gameman5804 [2018-04-12 19:51:02 +0000 UTC]

he couldn't due to what Sonic was into,(You know saving the princess dozens of times and fighting eggman)  he need a time where nothings happening so he can make his move.

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gameman5804 In reply to Saleh3Hossam [2018-04-12 20:16:15 +0000 UTC]

Then merge with Iblis at the Egg Carrier crash site. He has to know the location, he can make duplicates of himself, and he can summon the All the Chaos Emeralds once he released Iblis.

The reason why the future was ruined in the first place was because Iblis was freed from Elise’s dead vessel. The crash site was in the far distance from Sonic and Co. so no one can really stop him.

The only person that should fuck up his plan would be Shadow, but since he gets Silver in the mix, he ends up fucking himself over harder.

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SuperNicolas1234 In reply to gameman5804 [2018-06-24 21:07:19 +0000 UTC]

That guy is a rabid Mephiles fan, don't believe me, here's proof.
comments.deviantart.com/1/3373…
comments.deviantart.com/1/3373…
comments.deviantart.com/1/3373…
comments.deviantart.com/1/3373…
comments.deviantart.com/1/1723…

He got butt hurt over my Mario Fandom Rant/Vent meme. (I've hidden his comment, BTW.)
comments.deviantart.com/1/6010… (He most likely posted this after he saw & posted a bigoted comment on my meme.)

Don't risk talking to him because he's extremely close minded.

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gameman5804 In reply to SuperNicolas1234 [2018-06-25 01:28:26 +0000 UTC]

What does Donald Trump have to do with Sonic?

Good lord, this dude's a moron.

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SuperNicolas1234 In reply to gameman5804 [2018-06-25 01:50:51 +0000 UTC]

It obviously doesn't but I read that Bill Clinton & Teddy Roosevelt were one of Sonic & Eggman's respective inspirations.

He sounds like one of those A-Log type snowflakes who enjoys to hate bone on the Sonic Fanbase just to feel special & act like they're more powerful than God but in reality they act just as bad as those easy-targeted fandoms they endlessly harp on.

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Saleh3Hossam [2018-04-11 21:16:35 +0000 UTC]

Personally I like both villains  

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Sonicprogamer101 [2018-03-19 10:23:49 +0000 UTC]

In my opinion I feel like the only reason why Infinite got mad at shadow for calling him weak was that in Infinites head shadow is calling him too weak to avenge his squad. The main reason why Infinite attacked shadow was because shadow literally KILLED the jackal squad which could've been Infinites only family. I feel bad for him. Plus infinite probably knows his arrogance was the reason the jackal squad was killed and now he blames himself for it.

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Kaleboa24 [2018-02-08 12:27:24 +0000 UTC]

Why the hell does Shadow turn everyone he meets into villain?

And then he just FORGETS who they are later on?

Does he STILL have (short-term) amnesia even after the events of Shadow The Hedgehog?

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gameman5804 In reply to Kaleboa24 [2018-02-08 12:28:49 +0000 UTC]

Actually, Infinite was already on Eggman’s side. It’s explained in one of the comics.

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Kaleboa24 In reply to gameman5804 [2018-02-08 15:49:51 +0000 UTC]

Oh, but Shadow's the reason Infinite became full-powered in the first place.

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gameman5804 In reply to Kaleboa24 [2018-02-08 15:53:34 +0000 UTC]

True.

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Kaleboa24 In reply to gameman5804 [2018-02-08 18:46:25 +0000 UTC]

But after that, he just forgets about him, months after.

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CaptainPopplio [2018-01-31 05:12:33 +0000 UTC]

I liked both Infinite and Mephiles as characters personally, though both of them have fallen victim to poor storytelling.

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Girl-Time-2015 [2018-01-19 18:08:27 +0000 UTC]

I think Infinite is supposed to be a deconstruction of the "edgy overpowered" villain who can beat all the other characters. To me it was his arrogance that got his squad killed.

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gameman5804 In reply to Girl-Time-2015 [2018-01-19 18:28:15 +0000 UTC]

Arrogance can also blind someone to. They’re both contributing factors, it’s just that Shadow pushed him over the edge.

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Girl-Time-2015 In reply to gameman5804 [2018-01-19 19:55:53 +0000 UTC]

tHe EdGe!1!1!1!

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The-British-Badnik [2018-01-19 14:47:24 +0000 UTC]

I agree with you. In fact, I've just written a journal entry about making him a more interesting character.
ver2k0.deviantart.com/journal/…

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ARandomGuy235 [2018-01-15 22:23:45 +0000 UTC]

I agree with you Infinite is way better than Mephiles in terms of character and backstory and also because at least Infinite was trying to kill Sonic at the beginning while Mephiles just waited until the very end to kill Sonic and I've heard people say they want Mephiles to come back but I think it's better if Mephiles just stays out of the series just so he won't cause more controversy. But I have a question what was Mephiles backstory anyway I can't seem to figure it out?

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gameman5804 In reply to ARandomGuy235 [2018-01-15 22:27:32 +0000 UTC]

The most I got was that he was just created during the accident of the Solaris Project. 06 never bothered to explain what the entity of Mephiles is.

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Maxout2 In reply to gameman5804 [2018-04-22 00:01:33 +0000 UTC]

Honestly, I always thought Mephiles was Solaris mind or conciseness with Iblis being nothing but power and instinct.

In short Mephiles = Brains

Iblis = Brawn

But that might just be me.

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ARandomGuy235 In reply to gameman5804 [2018-01-15 22:31:47 +0000 UTC]

Well that 06 for you at least they explained in Forces why Infinite was pissed at Sonic and Shadow while in 06 they never explained why Mephiles was pissed at Shadow.

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gameman5804 In reply to ARandomGuy235 [2018-01-15 22:33:34 +0000 UTC]

No 06 did an okay job with explaining why Mephiles wants to kill Shadow, it’s just that he has no reason to kill Sonic.

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ARandomGuy235 In reply to gameman5804 [2018-01-15 22:36:26 +0000 UTC]

OK why did Mephiles wanted to kill Shadow again?

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gameman5804 In reply to ARandomGuy235 [2018-01-15 22:45:04 +0000 UTC]

Because Shadow sealed Mephiles in the scepter of darkness, thus giving him a reason to kill Shadow.

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ARandomGuy235 In reply to gameman5804 [2018-01-15 23:26:25 +0000 UTC]

I see thanks for the info and any reason why Mephiles wanted to kill Sonic?

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gameman5804 In reply to ARandomGuy235 [2018-01-15 23:28:49 +0000 UTC]

Just to make Elise Cry and release Iblis.

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ARandomGuy235 In reply to gameman5804 [2018-01-15 23:30:10 +0000 UTC]

I see but seriously why does he need to make Elise cry to release Iblis anyway?

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gameman5804 In reply to ARandomGuy235 [2018-01-15 23:31:12 +0000 UTC]

So he can merge with Solaris and destroy all of time and space.

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ARandomGuy235 In reply to gameman5804 [2018-01-15 23:33:30 +0000 UTC]

I see but how the fuck does Elise crying release Iblis anyway I don't get it? and didn't Blaze seal Iblis away in Sliver's story?

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gameman5804 In reply to ARandomGuy235 [2018-01-15 23:36:54 +0000 UTC]

Blaze sealed Iblis away... in the far future.

Iblis was still inside Elise in the present. It’s dumb.

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ARandomGuy235 In reply to gameman5804 [2018-01-15 23:42:49 +0000 UTC]

So since Iblis was still inside Elise that makes Blaze sacrifice in Sliver's story completely pointless wow it pisses me off that Sega doesn't treat Blaze well and as a Blaze fan myself it pisses me off.  

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gameman5804 In reply to ARandomGuy235 [2018-01-15 23:43:54 +0000 UTC]

And that’s why I dislike Blaze’s role in 06

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