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Published: 2015-01-08 23:48:01 +0000 UTC; Views: 5213; Favourites: 35; Downloads: 40
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Recently there was a terrorist attack carried out in France. The purpose of the attack was to silence a cartooning studio for its repeated mockery and criticism of Islam and its extremist followers. This is not the first time that artists have been harassed, bullied, beaten, and killed for expressing themselves openly about their own beliefs. There have been people that have had their heads removed from their bodies simply because they said something a religious extremist didn't like.I think I'll let an older video by a youtube uploader that goes by the name of thunderf00t take it away from here:
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Ohh and last thing its funnz that the news alwys tell us this stuff about muslims and russians but when something happens to them then their is silence just saying the world makes me sad sometimes but seriously dont bother on news just live your life because sometimes news are just their to let you hate some guys even if they did so much more brutal things but never hear something from that from countrys that murder innocent people and these are 1000 people that are dying and nobody cares but some guys with a office job and even with a reason why they got killed these people get respect think twice next time when you are listening to the news
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You actually pointed out something that I agree with. It is a huge problem that the plight of the Muslim minority (particularly in my home country of the United States) is underplayed. I'm reminded of the shooting in North Carolina about the three Muslims (two of them newly weds) that were gunned down by a crazy white guy with a gun over a parking spot... A parking spot!
Could he have moved his car or chosen a different place to park? Yes.
I'm in agreement that this is very much preferable to death.
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But still pretty good drawing I guess...
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I just wanna point out that these guys already got several warnings so its their own fault if they are still doing this, I dont say that it is good that they did this but. Oh well why am I even saying this there is at least 1 guy anyway who is gonna hate me for this comment :/
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Okay, so crappy cartoons warrant the death penalty in your mind. Gotcha.
Might it have occurred to you that instead of gunning people down that this group could have made their own crappy cartoons?
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Daily reminder no Christian would do this. It's from the "Religion of Peace". Y'know, those people who get offended just as easily as a social justice warrior, except they kill people when they're offended.
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Mmmm... Timothy McVeigh. What aboutΒ Anders Behring Breivik?
For me, it's more a matter of extremism and intolerance. The middle-east has been trapped in an anti-intellectual dark age for some time now. That's a major reason why they don't understand how free speech actually works. If history were a smidge different and it was the West that were Muslim and the middle-east that was Christian (but keep the politics the same), Charlie Hebdo might have been shot up Christian extremists.
As Virtue will make the claim that a person can be compassionate without religion. Part 2 will focus that anti-social behavior can happen in spite of it. It took two to tango for the crusades.
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But history didn't end up like that, thats the thing. Β As for the Crusades that happened 800 years ago. People can't use that excuse anymore to say Christianity and Islam are the same. Bill Maher said himself that you don't see the Swiss Guard killing non-believers. We don't treat the world as it's still 800.
And nor did I say a person can't be compassionate without religion. Yet, I see a rising amount of leftists, feminists, and atheists coming out and saying that we shouldn't give assistance to the christians being massacred in Iraq or just plain apathy. Yet they go bonkers over the idea of US soldiers being heros. Look at the American Sniper release. Some nut job from Vox tried to call the movie into question because of her ideas of social justice. What did she call into question? THE HISTORICAL ACCURACY OF THE TALIBAN. Because, we all know the Taliban weren't evil twisted human beings, right? No, they were innocent minorities being killed by the evil white man.
The thing I love is this: Liberals and the non-religious choose to think that offending the evil conservative christians is all right. But offending muslims brings outcry to huge levels. This is what I wholeheartedly agree with Maher with. Liberals should not try to go politically correct over a religion that is more conservative than neo-conservatives are. Only now are people waking up as to what islam truly is. A Barbaric religion, moreso than Christianity ever is or ever will be. Islam has more cases of human right violations, women-right violations, etc. Yet, where was the outcry when the Saudi's execute dozens of people monthly. CNN, MSNBC, CBS: "Oh Wait, no let's go bring up these Catholic priest molestation cases which happened years ago. We don't want to offend the minority."
Nuff' said. :3
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"But history didn't end up like that, thats the thing. Β As for the Crusades that happened 800 years ago. People can't use that excuse anymore to say Christianity and Islam are the same. Bill Maher said himself that you don't see the Swiss Guard killing non-believers. We don't treat the world as it's still 800."
Westerners don't treat the world like its still 800. I don't see American Muslims doing this shit. It wasn't American Muslims that flew planes into the World Trade Center back in 2001. It's the intellectual dark age that the region is in. That's the problem.
As for the opinions concerning American Sniper, I have nothing to say on the subject matter. No one seemed to have a problem with Black Hawk Down or The Hurt Locker. I think American Sniper got unnecessary criticism overall.
"The thing I love is this: Liberals and the non-religious choose to think that offending the evil conservative christians is all right. But offending muslims brings outcry to huge levels."
I think offending 'evil conservative' Muslims is all right(and necessary). I wouldn't even use 'evil conservative' either to describe the situation. I would use the term "pig-headed assholes who don't understand the value of a free society". I certainly don't group my own mother as a Christian that deserves my atheistic scorn. I think some one like Pat Robertson, or Ted Haggard, or Bill Buckingham does. I also think plenty of people are missing Bill Maher's points about the Middle-East and Islam in general. As stated earlier, American Muslims do not sanction these attacks (anymore than free-thinking Christians sanction religious fanatics that claim to be doing violence in Christ's name).
I do understand wanting to bring light to the current situation in the Middle-East. I'll never forget when a Muslim tweeted, "I do not worship Allah, but if I were to meet him I'd like to shake his hand." The poor fella was sent back to Saudi Arabia to face execution (!!??). I'll never forget when a feminist blogged about having a creepy guy try to ask her out on a date in an elevator. Richard Dawkins read the blog and replied that maybe there are more immediate topics to consider when women in the Middle-East are basically treated as property.
So here's my problem: sweeping generalization. When I hear the words, "Muslims are violent," I simply substitute the noun for any other noun.
"Christians are violent."
"Atheists are violent."
"Trekkies are violent."
"Nintendo fans are violent."
It suddenly highlights how absurd it is. That's why I prefer to be a bit more precise. Muslim extremists and fanatics are violent. Dogmatic and concrete thinking is dangerous. I honestly don't care what candy-coating people choose to wrap it in either. Making a sweeping generalization is taking a step closer to that line of concrete and extremist thinking.
I do feel that this threat of extremists Muslims must be combated. I should just hope we can do it without becoming more like the very thing we hate.
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there are no words that describe how enrage I feel about what happen to those 12 people there where just expressing there thoughts on a subject
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Indeed. Words or images should not illicit the penalty of violent death.
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I agree they don't call it freedom of expression for nothing
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Look, if you think God is talking to you and you understand God and God needs you to kill somebody else for him, if that's what you truly feel, just sit down till that feeling goes away.Β 'Cause I'm fairly certain if God wants somebody dead, that guy is dead, okay? Β He don't need you. Β He's got the key to the lightning cabinet, so just settle down, you arrogant finite carbon-based life-form. Β Really hard-core religious people that can't accept someone else's nonviolent code of conduct are dangerous to society, AND THEY SMELL FUCKIN' AWFUL. - Adam Ferrara
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God wouldn't want artists to be killed for just expressing themselves. So before I type some long thing meant for journal I'm going to leave it like that. c:
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Heheh, but really, art is sometimes meant to just be a joke. These people can't handle it. XD
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