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DONE! And I'm sure it's still Monday (somewhere in the world).
At last! Sonic Retold #2 is complete! It was a tremendous effort getting this issue done. It was much longer and more detailed than the first issue and it really pushed me to my limits.
This page in particular was done in less than two days - a personal record! I wouldn't have made it this far without all your encouragement and pledges. Offering character cameos in exchange for Patreon support was a great idea, since it gave me a little financial buffer and made this comic feel more like a community effort. I really appreciate all my readers who have stuck with me this far to make this comic worthwhile. 
So now I've earned a break! I need to catch up on reading back issues of Archie Sonic for inspiration and write more of the script. I also want to get at least half of the next issue drawn before uploading to avoid delays and make the work less stressful, so it will be a few months before Sonic Retold #3 sees the light of day. I'll post any updates on my journal, so stick around for that. Also, there's still the Off-Panel page I need to draw for this issue, but I'll work on that some time next month. Anyway, I hope you've enjoyed the comic so far! I've enabled critiques on this page if you wish to review the issue as a whole. I look forward to reading your feedback! Thanks.
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I never read the comics. Could someone PLEASE tell me, oh, i don't know, WHAT THE SLAG IS GOING ON?!?!?! I mean, thanks to Game Apologist i know what happened to Sally, but everything else pre-reboot, i have no insight of the story outside of it's version of Knuckles Chaotix.
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Oh, well, thanks for explaining that to me
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GoodNess there were some low blows in this page. The level of petty feels remarkably in character for Naugus
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I would have written this a long time ago, but I've been a bit preoccupied (as you know) and it's taken a while to put all the pieces of this together into a coherent critique. There's a strong possibility you deserve more stars, but I just don't have the time to spend overanalyzing your work.
Vision: The story seems to solidly follow the pattern of the old, repairing some mistakes when necessary (+2) and restoring characters to the narrative so that readers know where everyone is and who is (or is not) involved (+1). It creates a clear-cut distinction between Archie and where you obviously felt they went wrong, and in that way it also gives us the chance to make better judgment on the matter as well. The first issue ended with Eggman and Lien-Da, and this one ended with Naugus and Geoffrey. I don't know if that was done on purpose to juxtapose them, but I personally like it. (+1)
Originality:
Your thing seems to be backgrounds, and I have to admit they're amazing. Rarely do you go for shortcuts, and when you do, they're always subtle. (+2) Even in the simpler scenes, you still manage to focus on detail to the extent that I haven't found any inconsistencies. (+1) One surprise was the overarching question of how Sally could be responsible for the desolation of an entire planet. Everyone presupposes that simply having her on Eggman's side was enough, and since there was no opportunity to expand on that angle, the real problems with the idea were never addressed. (+1)
Technique:
Perspective flowed smoothly from Sonic to Silver to Shard to Knuckles and so on with well-placed segues. This issue would have been considered jumpy otherwise. There were approximately nine fully separate settings and you gave it your all to provide each one with life and realism. (+2) You mentioned at the beginning that you would have many crowd-scenes and I'm pleasantly surprised how well they were crafted. (+1) Especially your inclusion of that cute little pink deer. She's the linchpin that made page 20 work. (+50) *wink*
Impact:
Personally I've noticed the subject matter of comments changing from the generic "please update!" to thoughtful analysis and occasionally debates. Anything that can bring out that kind of passion and enthusiasm in people is either doing something very wrong or very right. (+1)
Moments of note: (+4)
-consequences of the attack on the echidnas (it isn't often a comic will really go into the aftermath of situations; skimming over it or giving a brief reference tends to be their modus operandi)
-Sonic's silent worry for Sally (some emotional connection helped to ground his actions; it was starting to devolve into the basic "Let's save her because that's just what Freedom Fighters do", but the nightmare helped restore his heartache to its rightful place)
-the confrontation with Naugfrey and Elias (don't tell me people weren't looking forward to this even if it didn't fully pan out)
-Geoffrey's appearance (finally we had a chance to see him and the way he interacts with Naugus)
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I should have responded to this a lot sooner.
I'm pleased that my comic has provoked more insightful comments the longer it goes. It shows that readers are engaged in the story and have their own thoughts about how it will turn out. There's no greater compliment to me for my work than that.
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This comic is getting better in certain areas, but I think you still should work more towards to having this comic keeping a tone similar to its origins.
I still think this comic goes too dark in certain areas; not so much in this issue, but the preceding one. I mentioned before that Komi-Ko's death in the last issue was too dark, and you claimed it was for emotional impact. But I still feel the method of her demise went too far, considering this comic is meant to be the continuance of what was essentially a "children's" comic. Yes, kids can handle heavy things (just look at any Don Bluth film), but screaming to death through tortuous surgery is far too dark; especially since just a moment ago we were being amused watching Sonic and friends kick ass. As for your justification for Lien-Da doing such a thing (killing her own father), it doesn't hold up because, as I said, she has only shown willingness to do such things against people she believes have wronged her; which includes her father, because he remarried. Komi-Ko was a nobody to her.
Also, I still wish you had your comic run more on course with Archie's original plans. They took four issues to tell the Endangered Species story arc, while you rushed through it in one by cutting out important plot points and appearances by Julie-Su, Saffron, Thrash and especially Knuckles. Even if Thrash and Knuckles parted on "cordial terms" during their last encounter, there were a number of signs that Thrash had dark intentions towards the echidna race that you can't just ignore. As for this issue, while I enjoyed the various interactions (especially between Silver and his Mogul), I felt there were still some issues. Particularly, these last few pages ruin the original idea that Naugus was taking Geoffrey over entirely and couldn't leave at will. Also, I'm a bit disappointed that you won't include Shard's side story in Sonic Universe #50, which was one of his best moments and really expanded his character.
Regardless, I still think you're getting better. I just hope you'll work on the issue concerning what tone you want this comic to take. You can have it be fun or you can have it be dark; you can't flip flop between the two as much as you have. If the dark outweighs the fun, the audience will either leave or consist of emos. Good luck with research and further writing.
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All reasonable points. First of all, I realize that Endangered Species was originally meant to be four issues, but it's an arc that I never approved of in the first place. Sonic has been delayed enough times on his quest to rescue Sally, and stretching that further for a token four-issue arc would have snapped my patience. 
If you feel that the redaction eliminates Knuckles, Julie-Su and Saffron's chance to shine, don't worry. I have plenty more planned for them beyond Endangered Species. I'm still not convinced that Thrash would be a benefit to the story. His grudge against the echidnas - previously unexplored in earlier issues - would simply detract from the core focus of Knuckles' relation to his people. I believe that the crux of the echidnas' story is not in Endangered Species, but what happens after that. Stick around for more.
Are you that disappointed that my comic starts before Shard's spotlight in SU #50? It may have been his swan song, but I have bigger plans for him to really test his character. Shard is still a closely-guarded secret in New Mobotropolis, and I want to explore what it would take for him to openly demonstrate his worth as a Freedom Fighter. 
It's funny how you disapprove of Komi-Ko's death being "too dark", because that's not even the darkest thing I have planned for this comic. 
Anyway, thanks for your critique. I just don't want you to be disappointed that I'm diverging from Ian Flynn's original notes. Building false expectations is exactly why Star Wars fans hated That Last Jedi. Remember that this is my own story and I'm not even paying attention to Flynn's "Lost Hedgehog Tales" or other unused concepts because I don't want them to colour my interpretation. Anything can happen in Sonic Retold, and as long as you keep an open mind I'm sure you'll enjoy the result. Thanks for reading!
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Yeah I do find it funny that one of the complaints was that the comic is too dark for a Sonic comic. Um...what Sonic Comics have they been reading?
I have read at least most of the older Sonic Comics and have seen the entire Sonic AM series (even the ones they pulled off the air for being, guess what, "too dark" ). So, I understand what the original Sonic the Hedgehog was really about from the cartoons to the comics. I could name so many things from the original comic alone that would instantly say that what this critique said was incorrect (not to mention even say what Naugus did was tame in comparison to those events in the original comic). Don't be afraid to push the envelope because people think it's not in the original comics, because the ones who really read those comics, know the places that comic has tread lol XD
I for one love your comic so far ^^ and being a fanfiction writer myself, I know how hard it is to not only get inside of the minds of the characters to reflect their personality, but to take events into account that you include from a moment in time that the original left off on. I think what people are forgetting is that you are not one of the original writers of the original story, but despite that, you are doing what you feel is right for your part of the story. And that is what is the best part of your comic. I can feel the passion and the drive in every page. You feel what the characters are experiencing are real and despite what other people are saying, this does feel akin to the original series. I would even go as far as to say someone can easily mistake this comic for one of the main story comics that were sold in the day of Archie back when they did write this way before the rewrite, and I mean that in a good way. You captured the essence of the original Sonic Comic so well and you should be proud ^^ Don't let anyone else tell you different and if someone does try to say that "this comic is too dark" you can easily point them to a video that I found on YouTube that says "5 times that Sonic the Hedgehog Comics Were Incredibly Dark" by Dorkly. And those weren't even the worst ones that I remember XD lol
Keep writing Glitcher and I look forward to the next installment of this comic. Take your time, take care of yourself, and as always, keep being awesome! ^^
~Story Wolf
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Thanks for the support! I appreciate that you're backing me on how I'm trying to balance the tone of the comic. I want it to feel like a natural continuation of Archie's all-ages story, but I also want to take it a step further by exploring themes of pain and loss.
Later issues will deal with, shall we say, "mature themes" and I'm trying to decide how best to present them in a way that won't alienate younger readers. There are certain sensitive topics that I feel Sonic stories can tackle to make them feel more real and complex beyond the static blue mascot that Sega seems content with. While I don't want Sonic Retold to be all gritty and angsty for the sake of being "darker", I feel that careful use of some edgier scenes will give the story more of a bite that will appeal to older readers who grew up reading these comics. Look forward to reading Sonic Retold #3 very soon.
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Now this is one the most guilty pleasures in this page. Everything what Geoffrey believes in Naugus to make Mobitropolis a better place, was AAAAAAALLLLLL for nothing. Good job Geoffrey, you doomed us all. I hope your old man is proud of you for what you’ve done. NOT!!!!
Also my apologies for the negative comments. It wasn’t personal really. It’s just me removing my anger from this character. But nonetheless, It was a amazing that you made, Glitcher. Keep on the good work
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Are a fair amount of you sure you still hate "Mr. Traitor pants" a.k.a Geoffrey St. John?
Is this what he truly deserves after believing that his wife was dead?
Wait... is Hershey still alive in this continuity or...
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I always preferred the idea he turned traitor after his wife died. Not a fan of retcons or it was all along sort of thing
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Many viewers are still holding out for a happy ending for Geoffrey with his wife, but I had a discussion with Kid3t3rnity recently who believes that Geoffrey deserves some form of punishment for his act of treason and that it would set a bad example if he got off scot-free. Maybe losing Hershey should be his punishment. What do you think?
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If you think Geoffrey should lose Hershey, then Hershey should divorce him and find someone else. Otherwise, it would be pretty lame to have her dead after all these years since the STH #252 reboot (especially off-screen), as she deserved better.
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Hey Glitcher on your favorites have you ever thought of organizing them by content.
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Not really, no. 
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Ok quick question about the story. How does Mammoth Mogul go from being one of Sonic's worst villain to Silver's mentor and a good guy?
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Perhaps hard times have humbled him over the centuries. It seems FinikArt hinted at how Silver and Mammoth Mogul's relationship develops at the end of her comic.
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Losing Hershey shouldn't be his punishment, Maybe some time behind bars?
...Or... maybe he can still find a way to redeem himself.... somehow...
I dunno... in the end, the final say is up to you... I guess...
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Hey Geff regret your decision to betray the Freedom Fighters? and Nagus that was a low blow. NOT COOL.
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If Nagus if destroyed for good, then the heroes will have to shift their focus from "curing" Sally of being robotized, to simply giving her her free-will back: that's fine by me! 
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I want nothing but bad things for that wizard for what hes done.
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Uh oh, Naugus is up to no good.
Awesome job, you deserve a break
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I wonder if it is doubtful you'll put Breezie the Hedgehog from AOSTH in Sonic Retold...
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Damn you, Naugus! You will pay for this!!!
Geoffrey must be saved and quit being his apprentice permanently!
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Ok where to start? All the issue has been full of many emotions and the graphic part is amazing.
All the detail than you put on each page make us enter easily en the story and help us to be connected with the characters.
I undestran than its difficult because this characters arent "yours" I mean, are characeters than we have known previously and every body
has an especial view of them. And to take characters so pre established in our minds (and im talking about MANY minds) and make them act in a credible way its a great achievement. And Im sure than im not the only one who admire you for that.
The argument takes enough protagonists to make me hooked with each story and I must confess than I was waiting every monday to see whats new. To know than the issue is done let me sad...
But I undestrand than you need a break and a moment to take inspiration and decide what is going to be the next step. And of course, as your fans we will be waiting at the edge of the seat (I hope than that has sense in english)
I really want to thank you for your amazing job. Im ejonying the comic so much for many reasons, and I know than to do it isnt easy.
Now, talking exclusive from the page... The twist was well balance, in my last coment i talk about my feelings about Geoffrey.
He is a bad guy and at same time a bad guy... and I really dont know what wait from him (and thats part of his charm) And the page show him as an slave, someone who is in a bad situation and can avoid to to bad things... But we know than he isnt so inocent.
I found too, a similarity with the end of the issue 1 (and I like it) We saw the minion of the main villian talking with him about the events of the issue and he end saying something like "IM GOING To DO SOMTHING VERY BAD"
The cilffhanger is well send and the situation in wrong and villians really havent do nothing "yet" but we want to know what is than they want to do and how our heroes are going to save the day.
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I'm sure that's how Geoffrey feels.
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Man alive, I want to see this wizard get taken down a notch. Nice work on these pages. Can’t wait for issue 3. Enjoy your break. You have more than earned it.
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Do u have any plans to make a Return of Scourge arc that never was?
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Let's just say that I have plans for the Suppression Squad in Sonic Retold.
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Suppression Squad return, it's will be interesting, especially now that Miles is their leader. I even thought about their collaboration with Naugfrey.
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Oooooooh. (Hopefully the Destructix too but I think I get what ya mean)
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Things are starting to smell fried ...
Jeffrey is clearly in an unenviable position. Feeling that "the ring is closing", Naugus decides to move to more determined and daring methods. And if the skunk wants to save something (and I feel that he wants to), he needs to do something urgently, before it's too late.
It's really awesome story. Great work, Glitcher!
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