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An image inside a confederate ship, in the 0G cryo chamber for the marines/soldiers they transport to their unknown location.Right now the chambers are preparing to open and release their sleepers.
Started getting to thinking that cryo chambers should be in the rear of a ship, as the coolent that goes to the pods would also be used to help cool engines, as well, no artificial gravity in the rear of the ship, as it's not really necessary to waste resources trying to keep gravity in every spot of the ship where it's not necessary to have. On top of that, the confederacy is rolling with some pretty low grade tech compared to the other factions, so I figure their cryo chambers would look a little outdated.
In any case i hated almost every waking moment of the detailing part of this image. sketching it was fun as shit, but god damn. I put so much goddamned work into this shit and hated every moment of it.
Regardless, the confederacy is part of my setting.
Characters, nations, small faction etc is welcome.
Comments and feedback is greatly appreciated.
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They'd also likely tie into heat sinks. I'd put them aft of crew compartments. they don't need constant gravity or air unless there are other systems there as well. They would need to be shielded from radiation like regular crew compartments, the sleeping crew and the electronics would be sensitive to radiation. But I'm thinking even FTL ships would take weeks to months to traverse the system of origin and destination as well as the vast distance between.
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yeah, the Engine rooms are largely sealed off from the other compartments to prevent radiation from escaping.
Science and medicine at this point has the advancements to heal those affected by radiation sickness, but many ships don't have kind of tech on board (most).
Depending on what faction, depends on the speed of their ships. As some faction/nations are more advanced than the others in certain fields. the poorest colonies may have ships that takes months to a year to reach it's destination.
Whereas the richest faction/nation Trident Company, has the tech to get most places in 2 weeks or just a few days. The technological gaps aren't too bad, but they're very noticable.
(it also depends on how old the ship is that is being used)
But yeah, kinda the lay down of what i got
i haven't really worked too much into the details of the interiors of ships, as there's so many types at this point. I kinda leave it open as some ship building companies/nations may have different layouts for their ships.Β
Though, you essentially have down a good layout
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I think for mine I'm going to use the current ideas for an Alcubierre 2 drive. This is one they think they might actually be able to build, that could conceivably do 10x the speed of light (relativity doesn't apply to space itself) by folding space. In system though, you'd have to use regular drives of some kind, because Β Alcubierre drives create gamma ray shockwaves (and maybe even black holes). You'd see a warp drive from across space; probably looking like a traveling gamma-ray flare. If it was pointed at you and it was within a certain range (depending on output) your civilization would be fatally irradiated. No warping into orbit or the captain faces charges of genocide. Likewise antimatter fusion might even limit how close you get to come. M/A fusion creates pure energy in the form of gamma and x rays. I doubt in reality anyone would want an interstellar ship in planetary orbit. I'd image there'd be stations at lagrange points, and people and cargo would be shuttled.Β
I'm also doing varying tech levels. The trick is making who's using what, where, make some kind of sense. Interstellar ships for instance, no matter if they are old or new, if they're legal to fly they won't be privately owned except by the stupidly rich. Ordinary folks will be limited to spending several times their life savings on in system ships. Say something the mass of the Millenium Falcon would make Earth-Mars runs and cost maybe 20 million or so as a guess. If you were qualified and had a down payment and a solid business plan you'd apply for a bank loan and sell your soul. You'd then be paying that off doing Earth-Mars and Mars-Earth runs for 20 years till you paid it off. Bigger engines and more fuel pods, and you're doing runs to and from Saturn. (or equivalent). Going into Interstellar business would take some hefty backing. You'd likely need to make a rediculous amount of money per trip to stay afloat. I don't imagine it would be cheap to convert a planetary mass equivalent into energy to go to a neighboring star. Even assuming relatively cheap fuel production, you'd still be looking at a small fortune per kilo of cargo. Importing a Big Mac would cost you big time.
Just some thoughts. What got me thinking was Lucas. High tech is great and all, but the man was completely out of touch with real world physics. That little run from Tattooine to Alderan should have taken at least 15,000 years according to Han Solo (She'll do .5 past light speed). The actual distance has been estimated to be well over 20,000 light years if I remember correctly. That's a stupidly huge distance. If you could harness infinite fuel and do 100X light speed by warping space you'd still need 200 years. If you planned on making a wormhole (essencially 'jumping to hyperspace') you'd need command over exotic matter that can create rapidly spinning toroidal black holes, bombarded with negative energy. If you can do that kinda shit, WTF do you need a Death Star for?? With that, getting rid of the death star would also be easy. Just aim at it and hit the gas.
Anyway, I'm ranting.Β Β
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Humanity has focused almost soley on the advancement of space travel for about 200 years in this setting. The Advancements of starship engines, ship technology, and FTL drives and slipspace drives has advanced so much. yes there were mis-steps and accidents along the way, but it only helped scientists to create a much safer and better ship. Ships still drop in and out of planets, but they are usually the smaller classes (including warships)
(it all depends on the settings really and technological route that the setting has taken)
Ships are affordable. Not by the standard civilian populace, but more oriented towards shipping companies and transportation companies and such. Yes the stupid rich too.
The idea up to date for starship engines has been for Fusion energy (emissionless too). Not all starships may run on the same energy. Again, this is 2773, there's multiple ship manufacture companies, hundreds of different independent nations making their own. On top of that there's hundreds of older model ships that governments and companies sold off.
I like star wars, dont get me wrong. But I try not to base any tech off the setting. (lazers and all that shit, magical shields around the ships, i just don't think it works for my setting. Though we still have energy based weapons, it's certainly nothing like the star wars zappy pew pew lazers)
But over the ages, ship sizes have begun to shrink as we've been getting better at building ships, including engines and reactors. Humanity has not yet reached the golden era of exploration, but in the setting we're so close to reaching the golden age. There just a few 'obstacles' blocking the way for the golden age of human exploration to truly begin.Β
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Yeah, I grew up on Star Wars, don't get me wrong, but now that I've read some science, the mistakes make me cringe lol.Β
I'm of two minds on my own story line I need to decide between. One version has it in 3022 AD, so there is a definite connection to the past. there would be clear records of TV and radio broadcasts, history, and clear connections to cultures and old nations that would ground it in a familiar universe. Or, I could set it in far ahead, where 3022 is the New Calender Era...3022 years after the first inter-species accord, and the formation of the First Galactic Union. This gives me a lot more history to play with, but makes making cultural connections difficult. Cultures would have changed drastically, so I'll need to re-invent everything. Languages will likely be evolved derivatives. English may have developed into several different branches for instance. Mandarin Chinese, Russian, French, German, Japanese and Hindi would be the main language groups, each with their own sub families of languages.Β
Starships...mine are all going to be rather massive. Big engines, powerplants and loads of fuel. There would likely be lots of different technologies in use, from matter/anti-matter fusion to solar sails to reactionless drives (NASA is working on one). Interstellar travel itself will be a variant of the Alcubierre drive.Β
Weaponry will be a broad mix as well. All depending on location. Different kinds of lasers for different purposes, 'gauss' and rail guns, and more conventional slug throwers as well as a wide variety of melee weapons. As far as general tech goes, you'd probably find representative samples of virtually every kind of technology somewhere. Of course, this also means there will be a lot of problems associated with lower tech cultures coming into contact with higher tech ones. There is no Prime Directive here. Any preserves to protect species will be backed up by more altruistic governments, or as deliberate propaganda showcases for massive interstellar corporations (for image).
I'd think that by 2773, fusion will be quite practical and far safer and more efficient than what we've currently got on the drawing board.Β
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If your earth was destroyed completely, then maybe much of the past would be forgotten, but if it was only partially destroyed in mine, then there's still a large record of the past. Problem is most of the free colonies dont have access to it.
I can see languages adapting too. Xenon has their own language here, a mix of Japanese, and Russian, with some chinese when the chinese immigrants started showing up in their system.
a small sect of Terrans speak German, or the closest thing that could be considered german at that date. It's considered a dead language, like much of the old earth ones, but there are still colonies out there that speak them.
Technological wise, i try to keep it on the same course here. At some point humanity just became content and didn't want anything to change. Most weaponry is still projectile based. We do have energy and plasma based weapons, but few delve more into them. (even though they are far more efficient than projectiles in certain scenarios). Theres even fusion based weaponry, but it's largely experimental at this stage.
i figured we'd have it by then, well a more advanced version of fusion tech at this point so i went with it.
As for your starships, go for it. anything is possible, specifically 1000 years from now. But like i said, there already seems to be a huge differences in tech and the way of thinking in your and my setting. (though i see melee weapons as very inefficient in such era)
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I'm still debating on what to do with Earth. V1 It's still around, very high tech but overpopulated and home to huuuuge interstellar corporations that pretty much do what they want. V2, it's still there but the planet itself is a 3rd world slum, polluted, crowded and stripped of resources. The elite either live on the moon, Mars or Earth2. V3 it's wrecked and abandoned from numerous wars, climate change, and pollution. Again, resource stripped. V4, it's 20,000 years abandoned and largely forgotten. Humanity has lived on Earth 2 for 20,000 years, developed and crashed a few times. Personally, I'm leaning to some variant of V1. The actual year might be something like 5000+ A.D.
As far as records go, I read an interesting article by one the founders of Google who said we'd better come up with a data storage standard that will be around in 100 years or we will have almost no records of the late 20th and 21st centuries. Currently there is no standard or plan for long term data retrieval. By the time we hit Windoze 15, today's stuff will be unreadable. I'm imagining they'll have about as much info of us as we have of people 1000 or more in the past. In the case of your story, they're only going back 700 years, so we'd be their middle ages. In my case, if it's 3022 AD, then we're their Anglo-Saxons and Vikings at best, possibly their version of Babylon/Assyria and Sumer. I don't think the average person would know much at all about that era. Heck, the average person knows squat about the Anglo-Saxons, or England in the 1200's. never mind 4000 years ago. The advantage would be in recording and decrypting broadcasts drifting through space. I can see space based technology being used for studying history as much as archaeology is.Β
I'm thinking languages would evolve according to what spacefaring nation hosted the trip. The host language would be the base changed and mixed with whatever other nations were in on the venture. So you'd have variants of Anglo-Japanese, Anglo-Europan, Russo-Europan, Etc.Β
As to melee weapons, personally I don't see that changing much. People will be hitting each other with whatever comes to hand till the sun puffs up. Most troops will likely be trained much as today, with the addition of 0G training and whatever that will entail. I'd imagine trying to knife someone in space might be problematic but hand to hand of some kind would be vital for troops performing or repelling boarding actions. You might actually want to take that station intact after all. IRL combat engagements can often come to hand-to-hand, hence every Armed forces trains in it, even though we have rifles that can kill from 2 miles off.
I'm going with Lasers as the base weapon everyone is familiar with (at least from entertainment vids). Then Gauss/rail guns. With advances in capacitor and battery technology they would make standard firearms obsolete as standard weapons of warfare as far as punch goes. The main advantage of regular firearms would be that they are cheap and easy to make, and no need to lug around battaries, capacitors and/or chargers (plus conductive ammo for Gauss type guns). I'm thinking substitutes for charcoal would be relatively easy to manufacture on offworld colonies as they might want their trees for things like breathing. Quick and dirty militias would likely be using lasers as regular weapons. They'd already be plentiful as mining tools and anti-missile defenses, so people would be familiar with them. Also, they don't seize up in vacuum like conventional firearms do. A vacuum capable pistol would be expensive to make, the materials and lubricants would need to be proof against vacuum welding as well as warping and cracking (or shattering) from extremes of heat and cold. Pull the trigger on a 9mm at -150C (or colder) and you'll wonder what hit you when the gun explodes into frozen steel pieces. Or, it will overheat in the sunlight and seize up at best. NASA apparently did conduct tests, and the soviets had them, but they were problematic at best. Bullets themselves are airtight and have oxidizer so they fire no problem. It's the extremes that make things difficult. It's probably more convenient to bang someones helmet visor with a hammer. Β
That's the cool thing about sci-fi, there are so many ways of thinking you can explore.Β
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Lol. We could go on about sci fi for days.
I once spent half a day talking with another buddy of mine about the ups and downs of genetic modifications to soldiers in the future. and we never finished it.
But yeah, sci fi leaves so many possibilities to explore. Thats why i love it
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LOL...I can see that.Β
Yeah, speaking of Genetic Modifications to Soldiers...that's basically where Panthera started out from.Β
As a genre, it's incredibly versatile, you can mess with so many philosophies, ideas and technologies it's not funny.Β
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WASΒ it worth it? is any of this even worth it?
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Survey saaaaaaays.... yes
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Survey was falsified by government propaganda machine. Don't believe the lies!
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Naw, it was a legit survey. Just look:
Were the details worth it?
A) Yes
B) Si
C) Oui
D) Yes
E) Cake
See? Clearly a fair and balanced survey.
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Ah yes, it's like dying than having your body turned into an popsicle, than being thawed out.
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or being placed into a coma. Either or.
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Awesome job dude really, I would slap a hoe to see a close up of an individual stasis tube, one of our weaknesses over here xD
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I kinda did notice that.
Bright Future has a whole sequence of tech revolving around slowships, and cryo- and other forms of 'sleep'. I likewise will be showing that off. :]
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Man I definitely wanna see that
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You will in one of the comics. not really a close up, but an inside view. I alrdy got it sketched out, but im holding off for a little
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been really thinking about making one, mini scale model bit. Polymer clay occupant suspended in resin mixed with a dab of blue/white citidel paint, get the airbrush out over the sides of the tube with some flock white for a frost effect, then it's a matter of playing around with bits and props to make it look suitably 'techy'
Honestly I dunno why but I friggin love cryo tubes hahaΒ
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Every faction has their own. the confederacy is just closest to what most independent nations would have.
Haha, totally make one. If it's something u wanna do then what's stopping you?
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Looking forward to reading and seeing more on it from ya dude, for real.
laziness, abject procrastination lol! Thats what's stopping me! XD
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Yeah, like i said, holding off on main comic becuase i wanna see if im ready for it or if i can get a style down for it. One of the reasons I'm doing these intro comics to factions really. to see if I can handle it or get a style for it
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Understand that well, dont rush yourself, Β feel it out and find what's creativity comfortable or you'll get burnt out, I have beeeeeen there
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I got creativity for days, man! I draw so much shit. It's just the part of coloring and uploading that slows me down -_-
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Same, we're drowning in sketches lol
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I bet.
>:I now post more of them
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