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JazzLizard — Submersible Battleship Kiengoss
Published: 2012-09-27 16:14:51 +0000 UTC; Views: 13553; Favourites: 117; Downloads: 322
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This is the joint Venrock-Vulpesant designed and constructed submarine battleship Kiengoss. The ship was the flagship of its class, which was designed to patrol the waters surrounding the massive jungle continent of the Green Sea, and ambush Loyalist airships and aerial battleships it spotted leaving the relative safety of the dense forest.The ship was nuclear powered, and propelled through the water at a great speed by a pair of counter-rotating screws. She was armed with numerous weapons, most mounted in magnetically-levitating sphere-turrets. Her complement of weapons included:
4x 750cm Excelus cannons, capable of firing hypervelocity shells to strike targets up to ten kilometers in altitude, or several times that distance away.
6x 500cm Gress cannons, for general fire support.
10x 150cm heavy Gress auto-cannons in 5 dual-mounts, mainly for long-range range barraging of fast-moving tagets.
40x 15cm Archen antiaircraft guns in 20 dual-mount turrets for general aircraft and missile defense.
2x 100cm Mortars, capable of launching depth-charges and mines.
10x Vertical launch cylinders, loaded with either long-range ballistic missiles for beyond line of sight ground engagement, or clusters of antiaircraft missiles for squadron defense.
10x 150cm torpedo tubes, capable of launching all of the MKD7 torpedo family, including the nuclear tipped MKNX cruise-torpedo. Can also deploy mines, depth charges, ROVs and divers.
The Kiengoss was a unique vessel in a time when new technologies were allowing for massively heavy vehicles to attain air-flight. Aerial battleships were a definite asset to the Vulpesant-Venrock coalition and Loyalist rebels, but were easily spotted from afar and often had large AA blind-spots which could be exploited by rocket-armed fighters. The Kiengoss was designed to hide submerged off the coast of the Green Sea using its low-density radar and extremely sensitive magnetometers to detect aircraft, then would surface and engage the vessel if determined to be hostile. She ship could hide in relatively shallow water, due to the high sediment content in the deltas on the Green Sea’s coast. The water was dark and murky, with visibility limited to mere feet.
The design of the ship also made for excellent submarine hunters. They could detect submarines from a distance using sonar buoys deployed via rocket, or left behind on patrol. Cruise torpedoes could then be fired to quietly sail into position before accelerating and engaging a target, and with a range of over fifteen miles, the attacker would have no chance of retaliating.
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Comments: 48
Six 500cm guns? I could swear I'm counting 8 on that model, 4 behind each super-firing pair of main guns. Am I mistaken?
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Fuck you man, take your spam somewhere else.
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It looks like a tumblehome and the surcouf did a little playing in the moonlight!!! amazing!
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Agreed. The Whalebacks were a strange breed.
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The French fielded a couple of submarines that fielded twin 203mm guns in a turret right by the island. They were intended as commerce raiders or for strike warfare.
The French classified them as 'underwater cruisers'.
The most famous was most likely the Surcouf which disappeared with all hands in the Caribbean, somewhere.
I would be remiss if I did not throw a, "Yaarrr!" into this comment, considering the subject matter.
So...um...Yarrr!
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First of all, excellent work. Egads, that's a lot of guns! I certainly don't have the skills to illustrate something this expansive and detailed. Bravo!
Second, while I realize that this is high-tech sci-fi, I'm still a little uncertain about the 750cm guns. I mean, the largest guns ever mounted on a (real) naval vessel were 46cm, ala the Yamato and Musashi. Even then, the ships had problems: the shockwave would often chip paint off the ship, and firing more than one barrel at a time could maim or kill crewmen on deck. Furthermore, each gun weighed around 147 tons, not counting the turret or loading mechanisms.
While I certainly respect exotic and ambitious designs, and applaud the depth and completeness of your work, I humbly wonder if you're being a little TOO ambitious. (Not intending to troll or anything, just my opinion.)
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Is this the sub you were talking about? [link]
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Yeah, I know the Japanese did something similar, both with cannons and the ability to launch seaplanes. Cool ideas, not so sure as to how well they were executed!
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Doing it in Sketchup makes it reaaaally interesting...since sketchup tents to make things more difficult than they can be
Interesting concept nevertheless
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I disagree completely, I think sketch up makes modeling rather easy and intuitive. Thanks for liking, though!
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well having been taught 3ds since my beginning and using it profesionaly all those years, it's hard to model in sketchup's environment, but I would be sure to say that, it's capabilities don;t match with a professional tool, and at the same time it's way of modelling is way too complex for it's level of results
for example use Wings3D...way easier to use, with the same capabilities with sketchup
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You and I both learned different 3D styles on different programs, and I think I'm doing just fine with what I'm using. I work as a professional 3D modeler as well, and all of my clients have been pleased with the work I put out in Sketchup.
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This is fantastically well done, but what would have been wrong with cramming a sub with oodles of missiles for Macross missile spam?
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This looks cooler! And missiles would take up a lot more room than shells for emag-powered cannons.
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Yep. But missile launch tubes would take up a lot less room than the cannons, turrets, power systems, magazine and feed mechanism.
You also really, really won't need that much ammunition.
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This looks beautiful! Also very impractical. I don't think anything like this would ever be able to hide very well, which is the entire point of a submarine.
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Why not? As I said in the description, its primary prey was airships and aerial battleships, and it operated mainly in coastal murky waters.
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Except that before sonar was invented, airships were used for hunting subs. Water may be difficult to see into from a ship, or the shoreline, but you'd be surprised how easy it is to spot a sub from the sky. Of course they were rapidly replaced by airplanes as soon as it became feasible, but that's not the point. The point is, it was incredibly easy for an airship to pinpoint a sub, and then let a normal ship blast said sub out of the water.
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You assume too much about alien technology; this isn't Earth. I'm pretty sure the deep, silt-rich waters off the coast of the Green Sea would hide a submarine very easily. The Loyalists don't have conventional ships, the waters surrounding their forested hide-out are teaming with enemy vessels which is why they use various flying-battleships and airships.
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Actually, it seems to me like murky water would make a subhunter's job easier. The submarine would be stirring up the water with it's passage, especially given it's odd shape. And with all the silt in the water, wouldn't such cues be easier to spot? But how can you have water that is both deep, AND murky anyway?
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I can easily imagine water that's both murky and deep.
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Well anyway, like I said. Something this big and oddly shaped won't be hidden by murky water.
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I still disagree, and I'm going to leave it at that.
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Mhmm, and there's more where this came from!
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I have to admit, I think the design is a bit weird, but none-the-less, this is some good work done In Sketchup. Far better than any sub I've made.
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very nice submarine only one question, there is no weapon below the ship?
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Hmm, well it's a submarine, it has torpedoes that can home in on other submarines, what other weapons would it need underneath itself?
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Against another submarine from below that should be a problem. But still a very good design
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I love the detail and well thought out tacticle advantages of this ship.
I have been desinging a submersible cruise ship for the well heeled tourist, but this is damned cool.
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Thanks man! And yeah, subs can be a lot of fun. Kinda dangerous, but fun.
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I have been thinking about it, and I talked to a naval buddy of mine (retired Captain) and he thinks with some modification, your design is quite feasible.
His one comeent was "Nifty!" Ha.
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Wow - that's quite a machine. Can't imagine the turbulence off of all those gun towers when submerged, though.
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My idea was to have them swing in-line with any turn, but I'm no hydrodynamic engineer XD
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Very nice design!
Can't help wonder, ghough - wouldn't she be a bit top-heavy with all of the guns...?
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Nah, she's ballasted to be bottom-heavy, and the armor belt below the waterline helps a lot too.
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Ah, I see.
Stability? I mean, her arms must give quite a recoil, so does she have any special measures in place?
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Well I don't think any warship has ever been capsized by their own guns firing, the cannons recoil into their turrets when they do, and they don't ever all fire at once; not for fear of rolling the ship, but to lessen the shock impact imparted on the hull. You can see it in real life here: [link] If you look at the shockwaves in the water, you can see that the three turrets are firing slightly staggered.
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