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KaijuSamurai — Godzilla vs Godzilla by Matt Frank and MASH
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This is my collaboration piece between myself and legendary Godzilla artist Shinji Nishikawa, aka MASH!Related content
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I'd say Shinji Nishikawa is the Japanese counterpart to you.
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you and MASH should make a Godzilla 2014 comic series!
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My two favorite designs going at it!
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You're Outgunned Daddy-O, It Doesn't surprise me, in the Least... That Every Generation of Godzilla... Is bigger than the Last. Man's Technology Grows more advanced every year, If The G-man didn't keep growing, He'd a kicked the bucket a long time ago.
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I LOVE the idea of the mushroom cloud in the background. Shows a lot about G's origins.
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Plot twist: This is the rarely seen, Godzilla mating ritual.
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I want to see how they mount around the scutes! Those things look sharp!
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Well they have to mate somehow. I mean we saw baby Godzilla's in both the Showa, and Heisei periods. So there has to be a way the do the deed. I wouldn't know, I'm not a 400 foot tall, nuclear powered lizard.
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Maybe like water monitors? They'll mate in rivers. With all that weight and the scutes to try and maneuver around it would probably make more sense for them to take a tumble in the ocean. I'm picturing a news chopper filming the action with one of those comic chat bubbles saying "Yahoo!"
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Makes sense. I mean when something is that big, it probably needs help to breed, and since Godzillas spend most of their time in the ocean, it would add up. I mean the 2014 Godzilla has gills, so it has to spend significant time in the oceans. It only makes sense, that it would breed in the ocean as well. The Godzillas might have a ritual on land, that then leads to mating in the sea. Since communication, and certain gestures are most likely impossible underwater.
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It's stuff I've thought a lot about for fanfiction material. Imagine if they need "nurseries", like sheltered coves, for rearing pups on land for their first year or so and that human's have been developing on these pupping grounds. The species could be wiped out.
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It's why they stick to isolated islands. In fact Monster Island, was a world recognized sanctuary for many Kaiju. Only science teams where allowed on the island, in the pursuit of scientific understanding of said Kaiju. So it is a strong possibility that something similar would be set up, in order to preserve the Kaiju. I know Pacific Rim made Kaiju look irredeemably evil, but that was because extra terrestrials where genetically engineering them for war. So natural Kaiju might be more passive, considering they weren't engineered for pure destruction. Since Godzilla, would be held in a favorable light after his fight in the Bay Area; that might score some points for the preserve Kaiju initiative. From the sound of it, he will probably be scoring more points, because the next Legendary Godzilla film has him fighting a long time nemesis in King Ghidorah. Their was only one time Ghidorah was good, and that was in Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack. So it's safe to say Godzilla will be the hero again. Besides I don't think Kaiju like Godzilla reproduce that often, and their survival rates are only enough to either sustain zero population growth, or have very minor population growth.
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Read Rulers Of Earth too, that's one kick ass comic. I searched the world map using google maps and stuff and there aren't many cove/bay areas away from human encroachment that are large enough to accommodate not just one, but two gojira the size of 2014 G basking on a beach like a couple of crocodiles. They've all been turned into harbors and ports and the ones that haven't still are swarming with human activity. I have to invent an island like they did for Rulers of Earth because I can't find a realistic location and I have literally spent hours on interactive satellite maps looking at the edges of all the continents and looking for islands. In the fic they claim a resort's famous pink sand beach for themselves and it becomes a running joke.
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Hey...who's to say that if the two G's find a spot *they* like, what the hell is going to stop them from moving in ANYWAY, human residents in the area or no (well, humans of course, but ONE full-grown Gojiran is usually more than Man can handle at once, let alone TWO)? The Japanese G seemed to treat Tokyo like he thought he owned it (or was smashing the human city BECAUSE he thought it was his, and the humans were squatters on HIS territory).
MY question is...which one is the male and which one the female? My personal guess is that the one on the right, with the spikier plates, is the male (because in nature, males are usually the smaller of the genders, AND by simple nature that Godzilla, in the Japanese movies at least, has always been referred to as male-- using words like 'he' and 'him' in discussing him).
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True, but it's mostly a 2014 AU/sequel because I hadn't known much of the rest of the franchise at the time. His own pup was one of the killed pups. Haven't decided yet, but I'm considering that they flattened Atlantis for finding decapitated it and discovering the head being paraded through the streets. The events in the other movies and comics and cartoons hadn't taken place. When they're on land they would rather laze about basking than waste energy throwing around their massive bulk just to mindlessly stomp around. Where does the 260,000 ton gorilla sit? Anywhere it wants to. But mostly it just sits.
And the females are not always the largest. There are many species where the male is larger. The komodo dragon is a good example. The he/him thing was always a source of confusion for me, because has anyone ever taken a look at the plumbing? And was there ever a second around when an egg showed up? Outside of NeoGodzilla (he had a mate in Neo from what I've been told) has "he" ever had a mate to lay these eggs for him? I've always thought of Godzilla as a shemale because it seemed like they were assuming it was a he. Someone else said that one of the movies stated he was originally some species called Godzillasurus, but that's the only thing that I can think of and even then was it ever confirmed a male of the species.
The fic that had started as a little prequel wound up taking over and became a completely separate story with an entirely different plot so after everything that was put into it there's a high chance that this fic will never be posted, outside of the prologue possibly being turned into a one-shot. In the fic that was originally intended to be a prequel already have been 8 chapters posted and the next 5 are being worked on in bulk so who knows when the next one will be posted. In that fic I've been toying with the bratty little cow, not the bull pup, turning out to be 2014 G millions of years later all grisly and hardened.
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Monster Island, isn't exclusive to Rulers of Earth. Monsterland was the original sanctuary. That was introduced in the 1968 film, Destroy All Monsters. Monster Island, was first introduced in the following years film, All Monsters Attack. We here in the States know it better as Godzilla's Revenge, and it's one of the worst films of the series. It would also appear in Godzilla vs. Gigan, and Godzilla vs. Megalon. At least where the film series is concerned. It makes appearances in Godzilla: The Series which is based off of Roland Emmerich's film, and of course the video games as well. There where Islands in other movies, I know the Heisei period had quite a few, so it wouldn't be the first time an imaginary island was invented.
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It just bugged me that I had to make one up and I didn't know that sanctuaries and fictional islands had such a long history in the movies. If it wasn't obvious I haven't seen much of the general franchise. I don't know much more than Gogira, 2014, 1998, and Rulers of Earth. Though 1998 is more like a wild animal than a Godzilla to me and I think it's a good animal movie, just not a Godzilla movie. There's a couple of real islands that I'm looking at as a place where a pair of young, 30 meter gojira settle elsewhere, but there's nothing big enough for 2014.
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I've seen pretty much every Godzilla movie. Final Wars is the only one I've yet to watch, that and the new Toho movie coming out this year. Otherwise I've watched them all. I became a fan at a very early age, and was introduced back when the SciFi channel wasn't an embarrassment, and wasn't spelled like this: Syfy. Looks like an abbreviation for some sexual disease. Anyway, yeah huge fan of Godzilla. XD
I don't know how to feel about the 98 film. I still have a lot of mixed feelings about it, and I wasn't happy when I saw it as a kid. The Animated series was surprisingly better, and made the 98 Godzilla actually cool. Still the movie and I have a lot of problems.
Well like I said, the 2014 Godzilla has gills. It most likely spends the vast majority of its life underwater, at depths unimaginable to humanity. The only time it would surface, and go on land is to either hunt like it did in the film, or to start a mating ritual with another Godzilla. Otherwise, it almost never sets foot on land. So if your Godzilla are more like the 2014 Godzilla then they don't need a ton of land, and can go back into the ocean for whence they came.
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Yeah, I remember them golden days of the "Sci-Fi" channel. My 15 year old female leopard gecko is named Sci-fi, so I guess she's become a caretaker of lost dreams.
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Yeah, the good old days of when the Sci-Fi channel didn't suck. I still watch the Syfy channel from time to time, but it's a hollow shell of what used to be.
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Can't agree enough.
And damn, I know that you're a serious Godzilla fan, but I wasn't expecting that!
The reason they need the land is because the pup is born helpless. It's pretty much an infant and needs almost constant attention/ supervision. Sheltered waters like coves and bays are used as nurseries to protect it from the open ocean while still providing a safe place to swim as it grows. That's why they were avoiding human traffic, the pup is helpless and humans are considered a threat to the pup. In the fic it is brought up that humans have killed unguarded pups in the past.
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Yeah I'm a huge Godzilla fan. Started oddly enough with Jurassic Park. I watched that film from ages 3-6 non stop. Then I caught a Godzilla Marathon on Sci-Fi, when I was 7, and from there, I was hooked. It didn't stop at Godzilla either. I've watched quite a few Kaiju films. Including the Mothra spin offs, and my favorite Kaiju trilogy: Rebirth of Mothra. With 3 being my favorite, considering Mothra has an armor form, that walks through a version King Ghidorah that is only slightly weaker than Kaiser Ghidorah in Final Wars. And Godzilla had all he could to beat Kaiser, and if not for the Humans, would have died. (I know I said I haven't seen Final Wars, but I did see a review with spoilers in it.)
Well lets think about that, in comparison to humanity. The reason we are weak when we are born, is due to our high mental capacity. It was a trade off, and with it, we needed more energy. Still the benefits are obvious. Yeah, we're not the most impressive species on this planet physically, but we evolved not to fight fair, and to have advantages that other species don't. Now compare that to Godzilla, and unless Godzilla is self aware, which a few movies have made an argument for, then I'm not sure if Godzilla pups should be as helpless as we are when we're newborns. Unless the sear size is argument enough. I suppose you could compare Godzilla to other reptiles like the Saltwater Crocodile, and I suppose they would care for their young, considering the saltwater will care for its young for the first three months. Still most just hope for the best.
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I bow at the feet of the master.
Birds and mammals in general are weak at birth, so it's not a human thing. They've found dinosaur nests with the eggshells crushed like the hatchlings had been living in the nests like bird's chicks and there's been further evidence of maternal behavior in dinosaurs, like the young having weak bones or something like that and being unable to fend for themselves, which makes a lot of sense considering that birds evolved from dinosaurs. If you've ever seen the original The Land Before Time, (the violent one, not the campy sing-alongs), they could have been even more helpless than that. And in both fics the species is overly self-aware.
I know throwing up the line "It's an AU" sounds like some road block for if a discussion starts going down a street I don't want it to or something stupid like that, and some people like doing that, but both fics have a lot in common and not in common with the franchise. Telepathy is in the franchise, but it's being overused here too.
Above in this comment thread I had answered a reply from someone else thinking they were you and some of what's in that comment might answer some unanswered statements from earlier. Like land use.
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Yeah, but their not as weak as we are, for very long. Usually a few months, and then they are strong enough to fend for themselves. Yeah I remember a few species of dinosaur had maternal instincts. I guess I'm used to the idea that quite a few animals hope for the best.
I read the other comment. A couple of things.
1. the Godzillasaurus was introduced in the 1991 film Godzilla vs King Ghidorah. He helped a platoon of Japanese soldiers during the second world war, and that was considered a significant sign that Japan was no longer ashamed of their past.
2. Unless Godzilla is an earth worm, hermaphrodites are usually sterile.
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In the fic where they take over someone's beach, Extinction, I never said for how long they were going to occupy the space. I was thinking around or less than 2 years, maybe 3 at most. Size is a factor and there are a few kaiju attacks in which a kaiju will try to come literally into the cove. Hence the need for sheltered water, a nursery. So the pup isn't weak for very long, but it needs to grow at least a little before it can go into deep ocean even with its parents. Another thought is that bones that dense would take some time to grow properly, but I have no clue if that makes any sense and they are a mostly aquatic species. Godzilla is only the biggest thing out there because he's the oldest. There are much smaller ones of his species. In the other fic I went the other way and overly anthropomorphized them and they age much slower and I made them too intelligent. It's barely recognizable as a Godzilla fic.
1. Wasn't expecting that! Gotta add to the must watch list.
2. I thought that there were more species that reproduced without a mate the way 1998 did. Am I just thinking of sex changing species and species in which either or both partners are or can become impregnated during copulation? I know the either or both applies to many species of snails, but I honestly believed that reproduction without a mate happened outside of worms and with vertebrates too.
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Yeah, I think the bone thing makes sense. Certain dogs like the Basset Hound have bones so dense, it is impossible for them to swim.
1. It's the reason, Japan stopped sending Godzilla films to the States, at least until the late 90's. Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah, started a wave of Japanese patriotism in the Heisei series, and the Japanese thought that Americans wouldn't respond well to it. So Godzilla vs Biollante was the last film they shipped over for ten years theatrically, and nine years on the home market. The biggest thing was a scene with the Godzillasaurus attacking an American platoon, and helping the Japanese drive the Americans off of a island, only for an American battleship to shell the Godzillasaurus, and leave it for dead. The Japanese soldiers salute Godzillasaurus, and thank him for his sacrifice. The captain even says that he, and his men would take Godzillasuarus with them, to get help, but he is too big to move. So yeah, it was something that they thought wouldn't work well in the U.S.
2. The 98 film drew a lot of inspiration from Jurassic Park. In that film, they said that the dinosaurs could change sex, because they had frog DNA, and I guess frogs can change their sex. So there had to be at least one other Zilla, for that to work.
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2. Just found out that freak'n Komodo Dragons of all things can reproduce asexually! It's a toss up, they can do both! I was looking up what a komodo dragon penis looks like/ JUST FIC RESEARCH, I SWEAR!!! / and that popped up. Who'd A Thunk It?!
I was doing an image search for komodo dragon widgets because I needed some more info to try and make a more realistic sex scene for one of the fics and it turns out that they have TWO penises! They stick out like a big ass wing nut! 
I know that Komodo dragons probably aren't the best source for trying to figure out what Biggy G's wang dang doodle looks like, but it was a start. They're monitors and water monitors are known for mating in rivers, tumbling in the current in almost a lover's embrace.
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Well I just learned something new today. XD
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I must have stared at those two thunder thighed titans above for the past ten minutes and I gotta say that the good old "wing nut model" would actually make mounting on land a reality for them. And yours really does look like the male with those showy spikes. Sticking out sideways like that would make it easier to hook under her chunky tail from the side and at their size it would make more sense anyway for the one who mounts to be the lighter of the two. The bigger G has smaller spikes too so they would be less trouble getting around. In the fics the scenarios are different, but your guy probably spars with the Twin Katana.
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well that was interesting,i gues ? XD
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Goji 2014. Why? He's physically stronger, a power house, and he eats other nuclear creatures. Plus HE'S 100 FREAKIN METERS TALL .
Goji 2000 is only 50 something meters tall. Its like putting a lizard against a alligator. Stands no chance.
But great artwork!
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G'2000 has a nuclear pulse, able to quickly recover from attacks, can develop a more powerful ray breath than normal, and survived being eaten by Orga!
G'2014 almost got killed by two creature's whose special attacks didn't effect him.
G'2000 could easily take on two creature's at once. And go back to the ocean unscathed.
So there's that.
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But you do remember that the M.U.T.O's were creatures that COULD kill a godzilla, like with their cocoons in the Godzilla Fossil.
Plus remember Godzilla 2014 was the first legendary godzilla film so we don't know the full extent of Goji 2014's power.
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Okay you got me. G'2014 could take on G'2000. I'll give ya that.
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But hey, if you grow g2000 or shrink g14, it would be even.
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Matt Frank G: "Or What!? You'll Sit On Me, Thunder Thighs!?"
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That's a mighty big pincushion to stick himself on...
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Classic Godzilla Vs 2014 Godzilla!? 
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"WHY ARE WE YELLING!?"
"I HAVE NO IDEA!"
RAAAAAWR!
RWWWWWWR!
RWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAR!
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Uhhh.. This is harder than I would expect.
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I do love both the American and Japanese designes, the Legendary Godzilla is a bruiser and a physical powerhouse, the Japanese is a walking nuclear reactor with enough blasting power to take care of almost anything, both do the character justice, great work on this.
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