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One kitty down, only one more and we're done with our first round or requested warriors, woot~ I'll likely launch a new request later once Mothwing's done too, so stay put.Hello Ass,- oups, I meant Ashfur, of course~ UvO
He's... more or less himself, if I dare say so myself. Still shorthaired, still a blue spotted tabby, still an assho,- ah oups forgetting myself again - buuut, hello there, where did your "dark blue eyes" go? You know the drill by now; not realistic on a coloured coat! Yes he could be a one in a million mutation or whatever, but meh; not this time. So hazel, here we go. Also, he's an European Shorthair, which is a recurring thing in his family and not really much of a surprise. The curious scarring on his shoulder are from either of the badger attacks - hell if he got out of both those cases unscathed, I refuse to believe that. -.-
His genetics work, so long as we keep his parentage somewhat stable - and by that I mean submitting to the idea that Redtail and Brindleface are and were still a couple by the time Ash and Fern were created~ <3 (Which kinda makes sense seeing as Brindleface was already in the nursery again when Redtail was murdered) A father like Whitestorm (which I will never in any universe support because NO) would screw his looks over with white as we all know.
So he gets his colouring from either parent - black diluted into blue/grey - and the spots... well, there are genes which "break" up tabby patterns so he got those from somewhere, I haven't decided yet. ^^'
Now, onto my... personal feelings about this character. I warn you, Ashfur lovers; brace yourselves or turn away. This is a warning, so don't come blaming me if you feel inclined towards ill feelings upon reading my opinions here.
I hate him. I despise him. I looooathe the character that is Ashfur.
Why? Because he is, among even the evil/bad characters in the books, one of the absolute worst. He has NO redeemable features, nothing to commend him, and the Erins passed off the severity that was his story as almost a joke.
I liked Ashpaw, adored Ashpaw even - the kind, supportive brother to both a blood sister and a foster brother, and his character in general. What happened?
Erin drama, that's what.
We shall study his character, and his development, a little bit closer. At first, Ashfur was the kind, wallflower-boy in Firestar's Quest who just "hi Brambleclaw you new warrior you I am totally going to be your friend" and was just going back and forth between being nice.
He's more or less the same for the first books in the second series too. Nice, but oh-so boring. He's just another cat in the "background cast."
It's in Dawn we start to see "affectionate Ashfur" - who's pushing his face up in Squirrelpaw's and purring like that wasn't kind of awkward in the least. But hey, that's okay, he was geniunely glad to see friends returning. It's only after the infamous first quarrel of Squirrel and Bramble that he gets more... aggressive, with affection.
He's pushy. Overprotective. Extremely possessive. Practically ignoring that 'his damsel' isn't even a fucking damsel (and the feminist in me really ignited at that), and trying to answer 'help I had a falling out with my friend/crush and need emotional support' with undying love - he doesn't read Squirrel at all, only SUPPOSES that is what she's after. And getting even more protective. Frankly, he doesn't care. In the least. There's only 'her', not 'real her'.
Then comes the crash, with Squirrel's rejection, and POOF we have a 180 and suddenly all we think about Ashfur is "who is this crappy guy?" At first, he's the desperate sort "we're totally meant to be why??" Then he gets darker, snappier, and tries to blacken his rival's name - because Brambleclaw is obviously to blame for his dad's murders, duh~ (This from the same guy who some books earlier states the opposite, well sh*t) And as topping to the muffin, he plots with his rival's half-brother leading to the murder of Firestar (who loses a life), because rejection equals revenge and "loving too much" is obviously dangerous business...
Then he spends a year planning his revenge inbetween sulking and glowering and punching Lionblaze now and then.
The rest is history.
What I'm left with, is this - I hate Ashfur even more. Know why? Because, if you look at the second series, and see how his character spirals downwards into becoming a maniac, you realise something; he was crazy from the very beginning. What you see here, is the story of a sociopath. He's kind and ever-supportive at first - once his target, Squirrel, starts spending time with him, his extreme possessiveness starts to show. THEN - when she rejects his advances, the true character emerges; this evil, manipulating bastard who is more than ready to do everything necessary to either get what is 'his', or destroy it. The "nice Ashfur" is a scam, it doesn't exist. And that he spent so long between initially being hurt to executing his revenge shows that he is cold-blooded to the core. He could've done a lot of shit already - instead he waited until the worst possible moment, in order to hit as hard as possible. Again, pure cruelty, and a wicked show of madness.
I know that deducing stuff like this from Erin writing isn't the easiest, partly because shitty authors can only do so well, but these are still the thoughts that wake in my head whenever I debate on the Ashfur issue - because he is an issue in the books.
"He loved too much" - and with those few words, these shitty authors excuse a murderer, a psychopath, a cruel sadist, from ALL OF HIS CRIMES. How can you expect me to react differently? Is this how you see justice, Erins? Or was this fanservice? Either is just as bad, that's plain enough. And WHY is it that so many fans actually AGREE?
Don't answer that question - it can never be answered in a way that leaves me satisfied in any possible way. I have tried - several people have tried - and I'm still lost.
Holy shit however this got long... sorry 'bout that, just... go back to enjoying my drawing, that would... ahem, yeah.
(c) Dearly disliked Erin Hunter
Art: Me
EDIT: Watermarked because I am goddamn tired of finding these all over the internet without so much as a puny link back to me.
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DinosaurQueen1774 [2023-12-30 20:52:47 +0000 UTC]
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BattleCatzFan [2022-07-04 12:14:59 +0000 UTC]
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IFeelFreeLikeABird [2019-08-31 18:39:44 +0000 UTC]
I'm faving this because you've literally hit the nail square on the head with this about Ashfur
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Mellowix [2018-04-03 16:06:31 +0000 UTC]
Oh, Ashfur, one of the most frustrating characters out there. Not just becuase of his fangirls, but because of the character himself. I disappointed he didn't go to the Dark Forest, not just for moral reasons but for stories reasons as well. They could of gone two main directions with Ashfur: A redemption arc where he's simply bitter and he learn to forgive Squirrelflight. Or full-blown villain. By going with this strange hybrid of the two, it means Ashfur is written off as this 'loyal' and 'well-meaning' warrior and sent to Starclan, when he hasn't earned it. It's only them constantly assuring us, he's somehow 'good' and coming up with awful excuses for his crimes. It's kind of worrying what I see from some of his fangirls, blaming the victim, Squirrelflight and excusing his actions becuase he was friendzoned. I understand those are mostly preteens and hopfully they'll grow out of it, but any of them were to ever apply this logic to real life, that could be dangerous.
I don't hate Ashfur for his actions, I hate him becuase he got away with them. Tigerstar killed way more cats then Ashfur, yet I don't hate him becuase I'm sacrificed he got what he deserved. If Ashfur was treated like the villain he is, then maybe I could even find him interesting, a villain driven by emotions rather then cunning. However, his character is just so unsatisfying, without a proper conclusion. You can't just show a cat an attempted mass murderer, have them instantly killed off and shoved into Starclan, hoping the reader forgets about them. It feels like they literally just turned Ashfur evil for the sole purpose of; uncovering the secret and to kick start Hollyleaf's downfall to get her out the way too and once he'd served his purpose - dead. There was build-up to his villainy and he barely got started as a villain. I would loved to see what he'd reactions would be if he was exposed/exiled or being sent to the Dark Forest.
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KittyStorage In reply to Mellowix [2018-04-06 23:34:23 +0000 UTC]
I would willingly have signed up for any of the above, you hit the nails square on their heads.
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Beret-Rock [2018-02-10 12:08:44 +0000 UTC]
I like this guy a lot cause he was one of the first warrior characters I learned about
Plus Im weird at choosing favourites
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Mythical-Luz [2018-02-08 04:22:59 +0000 UTC]
Hate him with all my guts like bruh he deserves no sympathy.
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AskWarri0rs [2017-12-07 00:08:27 +0000 UTC]
i like him......... AS a villian rip Ashpaw thou nice art
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MoonlightsFoxes [2017-11-15 21:16:39 +0000 UTC]
Ok! Here I go!
I actually really like Ashfur, but I greatly respect your opinion, as you point out actual FACTS that Ashfur kinda-sorta did need more punishment than he was given.
As stated here:
"do i think what he did was awful? yeah totally
do i think he should be forgiven and given a chance to change? yeah totally
do i think it was all about his love for squirrelflight? certainly not it was about the brutal death of his mother, it was about brambleclaw being the son of the man who killed his mom, it was about feeling completely useless and i have been right there with him but i never did the awful things he did
so yes, he could have moved on, but in his defense no one really tried to help him or sort his emotions out
his whole life he was kinda just expected to get over things and i think he finally was done bending backwards for others
of course his actions shouldn't really be defended, but i think it is important to try to walk in his shoes
i think missing a kind and wise father figure to look up to really didn't help, nor did losing an understanding and kind mother at such a young age, he felt shadowed and forgotten by cloudtail growing up, etc
i feel as if ashfur and squirrelflight and brambleclaw had sat down and talked about everything (and i mean everything) maybe ashfur could have lived on as squirrelflight's best friend, either way i feel the erins did him a great disservice"
Those aren't my words, they are the brilliant words of .
The brutal death of his mother did scar him and his sister, but his sister learned to deal with her emotions a different way and had her mate there to help her with her emotions, and her kits when they came. I do think he should be given one more chance to prove himself worthy of starclan and forgiveness. But will the Erins give it to him? Absolutely not. Because they don't care anymore. "Oh well, we effed up! Should we fix it?" "nope!" Is their mindset. Ashfur is a sociopath, NOT a psychopath! Those are two DIFFERENT things. Also, Brambleclaw's daddy did kill his momma, and his dad. So really, Brambleclaw being Tiger 2.0 in looks, probably made a little something snap in him as well, but he tried to be nice to Brambleclaw, and tried to think that Brambleclaw was different. But could he? No. He also didn't have the emotional support, or anyone to really talk to about his emotions, Fernpaw/cloud was busy with Dustpelt, so Ashpaw/fur kept all of those emotions balled up and never got to tell anyone about them to relieve the feelings he had inside.
Do I still love Ashfur? Heck yeah
Do i think he should've been punished more than he was? Yes.
Do I think he should have a chance to redeem himself? H**l yeah i do.
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Mellowix In reply to MoonlightsFoxes [2018-04-03 12:18:32 +0000 UTC]
Ashfur is a fully grown cat and senior warrior, he's reasonable for his own actions. If he's having emotional problems Ashfur should go to seek help from others, not the other way round. But he actually did y the luxury of someone going out of their way to help him. Squirrelflight tried explaining her honest feelings and wanted to remain friends, but Ashfur refused to listen, instead of trying to guilt-rid her by reminding Brambleclaw was Tigerstar's son, his mother's murderer, despite the fact; she wasn't even born at the time and he's a hypocrite because he himself was Brambleclaw's close friend and worked with Hawkfrost, Tigerstar's other son. So cats being Tigerstar's kin, clearly never bothered him and he's just making it up. He also disrespectfully reduces his mother's death to a guilt-rid tactic, to manipulate a she-cat, who had nothing to do with it, into becoming his mate. When Ashfur couldn't get exactly what he wanted, he stormed off in the middle of the conversation.
Squirrelflight was well in her right to give up with him, if he refused to listen, then she shouldn't have to put up with him. But she doesn't. Instead, she continues to try and reach out to him, but he cuts all ties with her, completely ignoring her even if its just a simple greeting. She then felt extremely guilty over something she couldn't help, even saying "I'm sorry" and "I never meant to hurt him". Ashfur had the opportunity to have that "Conversation with Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw about everything" like you said in your comment, however, Ashfur made that impossible. Not even willing to speak with Squirrelflight anymore. He CHOOSE to isolate himself. He CHOOSE to keep his feelings hidden.
Squirrelflight was his first and only attempt to find a mate. It's his fault for giving up and not trying to find another she-cat, when the there decent amount available. Age is not a problem for the Clan cats, with mates like BlossomfallXThornclaw and PinestarxLeopardfoot. Even if there weren't any he liked specifically at that time, he could simply waited for someone else to come around. Maybe if this was all Ashfur did, maybe I could have slight pity for him. It would still be pathetic and self-inflicted, but he didn't hurt anyone- Oh wait.
- He betrayed his clan by working with a Riverclan to lure his code-abiding leader into foxtrap, trying to tempt the deputy to do the murder. If Brambleclaw had gone through with the murder and been caught, Thunderclan would of been left without a leader or deputy. Ashfur tried framing Shadowclan for the murder, risking a war between the two clan. And used his own apprentice/nephew, Birchpaw as a scapegoat, claiming he was the one who spotted Blackstar on the border. After the crime, he kept silent/lied about his involvement.
- Had an overly distant relationship with Lionpaw. Even attacking Lionpaw out of angry, fighting him like a warrior rather than apprentice with unsheltered claws and causing bleeding wounds. Solely, for his 'mother'.
- Then tried burning said apprentice, a fellow warrior and blind medicine cat alive in fire, one of the most painful way to die. All while he forced their injured 'mother', to watch helplessly. Even though, Ashfur had literally years to move on.
- Then was planning on ruining Squirrelflight and her kins lives, at the expense of humiliating Thunderclan, by unnecessarily revealing a secret, that had nothing to do with him, at a Gathering. Despite being warned 3 separate times not to do so.
It after Ashfur inflicts his self-made problems onto others, attempting to murder 4 cats, who had nothing to do with his romantic quarrel, that he loses any right for sympathy from me. He ruined 3 three young lives, especially Hollyleaf's, reasonable for her breakdown, not only causing his own murder but the attempted murder of Leafpool as well. If he hadn't forced Squirrelflight's hand, making her reveal the secret at the worst time, with himself adding to the pressure by threating to say it at the Gathering, Hollyleaf could of had a much better life.
He was also willing to throw anyone under the bus, if it meant he could get his revenge, even those outside of Squirrelflight kin. For example when he used Birchpaw as a scapegoat or was willing to ruin Thunderclan reputation. Ashfur was not loyal, he was willing to put his pretty personal need for revenge against an innocent cat, over his whole Clan. He is a traitor through and through. After Firestar's failed murder, he had the years to stop, but he didn't. Instead he spends the next years, in a silent self-pitying stroop, creepily obsessed over Squirrelflight. When he was warned 3 times not to tell the secret, he could of stopped but he didn't. Nothing he did as an apprentice or young warrior could make for what he did in later life, he was just your average warrior, never did anything special.
He doesn't even regret his actions in Starclan, looking at Jayfeather with "burning eyes", clearly still bitter against his innocent attempted murder victim. He never goes to any of his victims' in a dream and apologizes. He wasn't even at the Great Battle, trying to protect Hollyleaf or Squirrelflight. If he'd been there, he could of saved Ferncloud.
With his mother dying, by Warriors standards, he's gotten off lightly, with many others cats losing much more. And it's clearly not an excuse for Starclan: Thistleclaw lost his sister, mate and son taken away, yet he's in the Dark Forest. Mapleshade lost all 3 kits and rejected by everyone, yet she's in the Dark Forest. Hawkfrost, lost brother as kit, abandoned by mother, father was already dead and judged for it, yet he's in the Dark Forest.
Ashfur deserves the Dark Forest.
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Cougartail-31 In reply to Mellowix [2018-06-09 13:27:27 +0000 UTC]
Wow, I never even thought about the Great Battle potential! You're right, if Ashfur had been there, he could have fought by Ferncloud's side and saved her (even if he still avoided Squirrelflight and her adoptive kits because Heaven knows he wouldn't have been a good enough cat to regret his actions and apologize ). It would be really interesting to see Firestar seek him out in StarClan and rake him over the coals about everything he's done...
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Featherfrost2462 [2017-08-12 01:26:51 +0000 UTC]
And did no one remember that Assfur is Squirrelflight's uncle? Like really?
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KittyStorage In reply to Featherfrost2462 [2017-12-08 22:08:04 +0000 UTC]
Apparantly not. But hey, when 90% of the cats are cousins it's not that easy hooking up anymore lol.
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VividSpark In reply to KittyStorage [2021-11-04 02:01:55 +0000 UTC]
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Mewisadorable [2017-05-27 04:36:11 +0000 UTC]
I totally agree with you!!!
And and you should totally draw Hawkfrost! ((Or have you already???))
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KittyStorage In reply to Mewisadorable [2017-12-08 22:07:18 +0000 UTC]
Yay! Afraid this project has ended, but thanks anyway.
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Smokestarrules [2016-12-20 01:58:53 +0000 UTC]
I'm favoriting this so I can read the description over and over again. Well said!
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KittyStorage In reply to Smokestarrules [2016-12-26 12:31:32 +0000 UTC]
Omg, I'm glad to hear that, thank you very much
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CrixaArt [2016-11-10 15:56:19 +0000 UTC]
I am so with you about Ashfur. I am in awe that people defend him. I never liked him.
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KittyStorage In reply to CrixaArt [2016-12-01 13:20:01 +0000 UTC]
It never ceases to surprise me exactly how far people will go defending those charas whom they "pity" so bad...
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ShipsAndSins [2016-11-09 21:26:57 +0000 UTC]
assfu- (cOUGH) Ashfur probably went to go talk to Thrushpelt since Thrushpelt been through. (But thrushpelt did not try to murder 4 or 5 cats and almost burned children..) and thrushpelt would've snapped at him XD and told him what love really is.
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KittyStorage In reply to ShipsAndSins [2016-12-01 13:19:34 +0000 UTC]
Yeah chances are he'd get the scolding of a lifetime in the afterlife, for all the crap he's dealt out in his life.
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LuckyFunnyGirl [2016-10-05 10:55:47 +0000 UTC]
Well Erins confirmed that Ashfur's and Ferncloud's father is Whitestorm.
You're dead to me Erins.
You did beautiful work! It's really amazing! He looks more better with green eyes
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KittyStorage In reply to LuckyFunnyGirl [2016-10-27 19:03:55 +0000 UTC]
Same - no thank you erins, not buying that at all. And thank you very much, glad to hear it
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DragonSlayer832 [2016-06-27 02:57:34 +0000 UTC]
I love how you did this! I also like Ashfur's yellow (or green?) eyes! Ps how long did it take you to do this? I must think it took you a day or a week to finish this....
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KittyStorage In reply to DragonSlayer832 [2016-07-22 19:43:51 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much, glad you think so! Well his eyes are 'hazel' so both yellow and green in a sense haha. Hmm... I dunno, the sketch took perhaps 50 minutes with a reference picture, and lining and colouring took... I don't really remember, just a few hours at most. ^^
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AutummsFox [2016-06-11 02:12:39 +0000 UTC]
Does anybody noticed that Ashfur dated one of the member of his family tree? (Squirrelflight)
gonna blame the erins 👌
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KittyStorage In reply to AutummsFox [2016-07-22 19:40:18 +0000 UTC]
Another perfect example of an Erin failure~
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peculiarjotaro7 [2016-05-29 00:36:42 +0000 UTC]
He and Scourge defiantly looks better with green eyes than blue.
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KittyStorage In reply to peculiarjotaro7 [2016-07-22 19:39:45 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much, glad you think so
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daddysgirl12345 [2016-05-12 07:52:37 +0000 UTC]
THANK YOU
Gosh I thought I was the only one who knew be had to be bad from the start because you don't get that bad homicidal overnight
That doesn't make sense
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KittyStorage In reply to daddysgirl12345 [2016-07-22 19:39:34 +0000 UTC]
Glad to hear it, thank you!
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Shaded-Velvet [2016-04-26 21:20:51 +0000 UTC]
He looks angry. Finally, someone got his expression right! People always draw him as sad or crying. But he was angry with Squirrelflight!
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KittyStorage In reply to Shaded-Velvet [2016-07-22 19:39:24 +0000 UTC]
Glad to hear it, thanks! And you're right, he's always drawn so pitifully, but considering how he actually behaved back then... yeah...
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KalahariMeerkatfan [2016-04-26 16:45:18 +0000 UTC]
I found in my Into the Wild book that his mom was said to be exactly like Ashfur and Ferncloud (pale gray with darker flecks), but she is a tabby...so would this be plausible? Brindleface being a spotted tabby like her son and daughter...
Wait...wouldn't Sandstorm need to be one too? A spotted ginger tabby since her mom is one and these later kits were a lot like their mom...I'm a little confused. But I noticed it in my book and mentioned it to the Wiki staff.
Makes it better because dapple no exist...?
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KittyStorage In reply to KalahariMeerkatfan [2016-07-22 19:38:49 +0000 UTC]
As far as I'm doing it, Brindley will be just like her kids, a spotted-ish sorta tabby - thing is, spotted tabby is hard to pin. It's not an 'official' tabby type, more like a modified mackerel tabby whose striping has broken up into spots.
As for Sandy, she escapes this fate thanks to her dada, since Brindley is the only one who carries the spotted gene Sandy doesn't 'have' to inherit it
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arodote [2016-04-26 09:13:40 +0000 UTC]
i agree with you 99% with the description
but
the erins said that ashfur`s and ferncloud`s possible father is whitestrom (on facebook)
amazing drawing i just love how you`re making the patterns fgjfjgfj
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KittyStorage In reply to arodote [2016-04-26 11:11:21 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much, glad to hear it!
Ugh yeah I know, I really dislike that Whitestorm theory - he wasn't that sort of tom in my eyes who just waltzed around slapping kittens on the girls, I mean he was described as practically glowing with happiness when Willowpelt got preggers. Him having basically an affair with Brindleface then makes no sense for me. -.-
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Acornleap [2016-04-23 06:39:35 +0000 UTC]
Haha he looks so determined (To hurt people) jk
Nice work!
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KittyStorage In reply to Acornleap [2016-04-24 12:29:21 +0000 UTC]
Haha, fell it fits with canon then~
Thank you very much!
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