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Dalek drone: Time War eraArmoured against the ravages of the time vortex and the fluctuations in history caused by a trans-temporal conflict, the Daleks deployed during the Time War were among the most powerful war machines ever devised.
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This is somewhat temporary - there are things I still need to fix and tweak - but this is about as much as I can feasibly do on my laptop. Will update when I'm back on the PC.
[EDIT FOR SLIGHTLY MORE ACCURATE COLOURS]
[EDIT 2: Updated model and colours for greater accuracy]
The Daleks, be they from any era, are not mine.
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Now this is a standard Revival Series Dalek.
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I really wish they made the bottom of the skrit gold or solar panels or whatever
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I love the bronze daleks
www.thedoctorwhosite.co.uk/dalβ¦
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Who doesn't? They're a lovely bit of design work.
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yes some bronze Daleks need more color then just a ID symbol
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My favourite model of all time. Well done!
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You know, if you pixelated them, these would be perfect for a Doom mod.
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Hmm...I'd no idea how to go about doing that though!
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I have GIMP.
Do you have that or do you use photoshop?
If you have GIMP, use the pixelize tool, then use the newsprint in distort, and then pixelize it again.
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beautiful. looks a bit drab, though. a little more shine and stronger colours would do the trick.
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Working on the colours! I'm trying to get closer to the actual bronze used on the props but it's a bit of a learning process for me...
Glad you like it so far though!
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This is cool...
I wish the TV series' drones were this flawless and shiny but, with TV budgets, even the "mini-movies" approach of Season 7 can't achieve this (and according to the Behind The Scenes they did throw together some new 2005-era props...)
Enjoy "Asylum"? I thought that, whatever its plot-holes (which were not holes so much as just needing a few more lines of psuedo-science or explanation*) it was a rather excellent examination of hatred, humanity and the animosity at the core of the Doctor / Dalek relationship (as well as their warped respect for him). Throw in a brilliant twist and some classic scary scenes involving sleeping daleks and it was a recipe for the best dalek adventure since the beginning of the new series! (in my books, anyway...)
*Daleks afraid to be killed for a mission, thus preventing any volunteers? Probably, but they always obey... unless the fear of being tainted with insanity is scarier for them than dying. And I wish they'd done more to explain the "Whipe-the-Doctor-from-the-repository" twist. GREAT idea to reset the stage! - Genius! - but this was so effective as to erase every dalek's personal memory of the doctor? I'd assume they have individual knowledge and memories they still retained even if they surrendered it to the database.
Best,
E
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Flawless props are never going to happen, I fear. But, you know, that almost helps in a way. They wouldn't be perfect or flawless in 'reality', not after any length of time...
I *loved* Asylum. I thought it was a really extraordinarily well put together story, with superb acting, brilliant direction and effects and a bevy of exciting concepts at its heart. My mind's already running around fitting the Dalek Prime Minister in as the administrative heart of the Dalek Empire!
As for wiping the Doctor's files - that's the brilliant part. It would never have worked if you didn't have the Dalek Parliament floating overhead. Now the central authority, the ones who decide what's what in the Empire, have no record of the Doctor. And if anyone argued with them...
Well, we all know how Daleks react to a difference of opinion!
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Maybe this is how the next great schism/civil war in the Dalek Empire gets started... since the Doctor was inextricably linked to the creation of the New Paradigm Daleks, maybe they split from the Time War Daleks as they still believe he exists... and we'll get to see the Time War Daleks kicking their oversized butts
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Heh heh. The idea had occurred to me too, though I'm less eager to see a sharp divide along what casing they have!
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hmmm, if you were to crop all the pictures so they only show the furthest left Dalek, it would ne like one of those Evolution posters, lol
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I've actually had a similar idea running round my head for quite some time! I might even do it...
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I would like to see that too,including from the Century 21 Comics and the Arru/Amicus Movie era.
Why don't you give the The Time War Daleks the same kind of color schemes from that era too?
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I do plan to, based on your earlier comment, but haven't had access to my PC for a week. I'll hopefully be able to throw something together sometime this week.
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That's good to hear.
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Lovely! Would love to see a full set of these Daleks with the color scheme from every era.
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I certainly plan to whip up some recolours based on the 60s movies, just for fun. And I might just experiment with some additional colour schemes while I'm at it...
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Loooooooooooooovely.
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The best Dalek props we've ever had. Heavy, solid, metallic, believably mechanical.
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Have to agree with you there. It is a stonkingly good 'redesign' that isn't really a redesign at all, just a fine-tuning of the classic.
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There's three subtle things that really make the design work, in my opinion: one, the thick, armour-plate-like shoulder slats; two, the rims/collars on the skirt globes; three, the rivets, especially around the fender and shoulder boxes. I can take or leave the greebling on the head dome, the barcode, or the cowl around the base of the eyestalk - those three subtle effects are what really do the heavy lifting work for me and bridge the line from "prop" to "alien war machine". It's strange, because when I first saw the blurry leaked shots of the Time War Dalek from the production of "Dalek", I was underwhelmed by what seemed to me to be a rather timid and unadventurous update of the Dalek design; but having seen it in action with proper lighting and definition I soon realised that the genius of this design was that it didn't update anything that didn't need updating. The designers sat down and said, quite rightly, "this is a Dalek. It has to look like a Dalek. This is what the Daleks used to look like for the first 26 years of the show. We need it to look like that so people know straight away it's a Dalek, but this is 2005 so we also need it to be believable as military hardware and not just as a plywood prop." Bang, rivets. Bang, armour plating. Bang, metallic finish. It's so tragic that the New Paradigm Daleks missed those important points entirely; even more so as McKinstry is normally such a good concept artist. In a way I almost wish we'd had the New Paradigm Daleks in the show from 2005, because they're such a lazy redesign - almost what I might have expected from RTD and co early on, in fact - and we wouldn't have had to have the Time War Dalek design superseded in such a dull, unceremonious and self-congratulatory way.
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I've very much with you on the Time War design - every bit of that Dalek is new and custom made for the job yet it is perfectly in keeping with the original Cusick design (well, post Chase anyway).
As for the NDP...if the design had been met with a better reaction, superseding the NSD in that way would have worked fine. Unfortunately...well, yeah. Trying to evoke the film Daleks was a perfectly valid goal, but they missed that and veered away from the classic Dalek outline. It could have worked. McKinstry's design work on it *was* good, especially when the proportions were closed to the classic version. I mean, even that, I don't like it that much but with some more work, it could have been something good.
I don't think it was a lazy redesign. It's not. Too much concious effort went into making them look *new* and *exciting*. A lazy redesign would have been to slap a new coat of paint on the NSDs. But - and I've probably said this before - they ended up changing things that didn't really need changing. They exaggerated the wrong things and threw off lines that, while not smooth, do flow in a rather interesting way. And they stuck that ruddy great vent on the back and then didn't use it for anything, which is my major bug bear with the design (they have, thankfully, fixed the colours).
I don't know if the general viewing audience really cares about the changes, or what their opinion of them is. I detect a certain about-face on the rationalisation of the design in interviews compared to how it's presented in Victory itself, so clearly the show-runners responded to some level of negative response. But going by people like yourself who make comments about the NDP, I think it is fair to say that the redesign could have been a lot better.
And on that note, I have my own NDP to update...
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Well, "Victory of the Daleks" did feature Time War Daleks with just a new coat of paint... and they still looked better than the NPDs!
Perhaps "lazy" was the wrong word, but to me they look more like parodies of Daleks - something not helped by their plasticky finish and colour scheme making the props themselves look cheap. I'm just amazed nobody in the entire production team looked at the first finished NPD prop and realised it was really bad. McKinstry must have been beside himself.
All that being said, I think there's a couple of things about the NPDs that might be worth backporting. I like their more complex gunstick. I also really like the idea of them having an organic eyeball in their eye stalk, though beyond McKinstry's concept art this is realised incredibly badly on the props themselves... how hard is it, really, to get prop eyeballs!? I like... umm... no, that's about it. In all honesty I'm quite happy to just pretend the NPDs and "Victory of the Daleks" never happened.
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They weren't as good as the NSD eyes, or the concept, but until the eyes were actually being made, the eyeballs remained properly organic. After that, The Grand Moffat said "hmmm... This is going out at 7pm. Tone it down a little." after that, we got NPD eyes as we know them.
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Cool, really good actually, can't wait to see a finished version :S
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Yeah, hopefully I'll get that done soon. Just needs some more texture tweaks and some cleaning on the mesh...
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cool, another idea, you could do an insane Dalek
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