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Europe, Anglo-IberiaThis is the modern day map of Europe of my Anglo-Iberian timeline, after what is expected to be the final break up of the Austrian Federal Empire three years ago. Please ignore the previous 1909 map, it's no longer canon for the timeline
Questions and comments always welcome, either about the style or the actual map/timeline contents
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Comments: 28
Cheetaaaaa [2012-04-12 20:04:44 +0000 UTC]
Republic of Tyrol!
Seriously, I'd rather live in this world.
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vaipaBG [2010-04-07 09:23:44 +0000 UTC]
I love how you did the map with the outlines and everythink but "Bulgaristan"? please...
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Neethis In reply to vaipaBG [2010-04-07 16:07:58 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the beginning compliment, at least I know I know - it was late, and I hate naming that area of the world
If it's any consolation, it's based off the idea that the area is far more islamic and Ottoman/Turkish leaning (the Turkish name for Bulgaria just being simply Bulgaristan).
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Delta-Knight [2010-01-19 02:58:24 +0000 UTC]
Supongo que la fundación de este mapa viene del hecho que, en esta historia, Rey Felipe II de España mantuvo su casancia a Reina María I de Inglaterra, cual provendió que (a) Inglaterra se quedó un reino católico, (b) las coronas de Londres y Madrid (cual ya se ha unido con la de Lisboa por una otra casancia de Rey Felipe II a la hija del rey portugués), y (c) nunca habría preciso que Rey Felipe II le mande la armada a Inglaterra.
El final punto significaría que las marinas de los dos países nunca se habrían peleado; ¡me interesaría lo ha acontecido en el nuevo mundo!
Por lo general, es un mapa que me ha de piense (aunque siempre estoy pensando). Buen hecho.
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Neethis In reply to Delta-Knight [2010-01-19 14:18:08 +0000 UTC]
Lo siento, no hablo español
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AngelBlue01 [2009-09-18 17:45:23 +0000 UTC]
Much clearer, and very nice.
At least the parts of Poland my family is from are part of the Polish state in this timeline
And Turkey has lost Europe. No Turkey in the EU this time.
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Neethis In reply to AngelBlue01 [2009-09-18 18:55:18 +0000 UTC]
Nope, but it IS still an Ottomanian Kingdom
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Laiqua-lasse [2009-09-18 15:02:28 +0000 UTC]
On the downside, Lithuania contains very little of ethnic Lithuania
On the upside, I tend to enjoy strong Denmarks and larger Hungaries.
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Neethis In reply to Laiqua-lasse [2009-09-18 15:54:50 +0000 UTC]
It doesn't contain a bulk of OUR Lithuania, no, but the old 18th centuary Lithuania (which this one is a descendant of) was quite a monster: [link]
Hungary would've been bigger too, if it'd had its way over Transylvania
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Laiqua-lasse In reply to Neethis [2009-09-18 18:31:45 +0000 UTC]
I know that, don't worry It's just that in OTL's 19th century, most of the national revival of Lithuanians originated from Samogitia. Of course, since in this world, Lithuania was probably not part of the Russian Empire (or was it?), the government may have created a different, yet still Lithuanian, identity based more on the mixture of Baltic and Slavic cultures present in the country.
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Neethis In reply to Laiqua-lasse [2009-09-18 18:54:54 +0000 UTC]
Soz, it wasn't till after I'd replied that I looked at your gallery and realised you probably knew at least a lil bit about the history of the place lol. I'm used to dealing with comments and questions from people that don't is the trouble...
While Lithuania has never been part of the Russian Empire, it HAS been closely associated with Russia since the collapse of the union with Poland.
Nice idea, I'll do some more looking into the actual foundation of Lithuania and come up with a decent history for it...
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Laiqua-lasse In reply to Neethis [2009-09-20 15:23:36 +0000 UTC]
It's fine, don't worry It would be interesting to see what you come up with for this Lithuania. There are actually ethnological theories that modern OTL Belarussians are a Baltic people who only happen to be speaking a Slavic language - this may be of interest to you. Unfortunately, any information I can find about that is either in Belarussian or Lithuanian...
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Neethis In reply to Laiqua-lasse [2009-09-21 19:09:27 +0000 UTC]
Hmm, interesting... I'll try and have a look for myself, see if I can't scratch up something in English...
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Sapiento [2009-09-18 04:32:26 +0000 UTC]
Republic of Tyrol? Wet dream of some Tyroleans comes true!
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Neethis In reply to Sapiento [2009-09-18 15:49:05 +0000 UTC]
Lol yup Won independance from the AFE in a short and bloody war, thought to have been funded by Italy and Prussia
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lamnay [2009-09-17 20:33:19 +0000 UTC]
On the down side Sweden has gone all weird.
On the Upside, we have all of Ireland, the good parts of Benelux and a nice chunk of Italy.
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Neethis In reply to lamnay [2009-09-17 21:13:14 +0000 UTC]
"all weird"? Eloquent as always
I wouldn't so much say "we" have places, either - while the Imperial Parliament is centred in London, each region has it's own devolved regional parliament, and the current monarch calls Valencia home for most of the year, a legacy from his Great-Great-Grandfather who commisioned the construction of the great palace there...
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lamnay In reply to Neethis [2009-09-17 21:34:14 +0000 UTC]
Well I did not want to be impolite. I mean some republics are stable with decent human rights.
I know but it is easier to say "we have" than that.
Also is Anglo-Iberia a Federation or is it the kind of not quite unitary not quite federation situation that we have in the UK.
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Neethis In reply to lamnay [2009-09-18 20:20:18 +0000 UTC]
It's similar to us, although a little more federal leaning... each region (Kingdom, Principality, Duchy, or Dominion) has some degree of local devolved autonomy, but there is also a unity Imperial Parliament based in London, consisting of the Imperial House (headed in principle by the monarch, but usually administrated by his Lord Minister) that is elected from all across the Empire) and the Assembled House, consisting of representatives chosen from each regional government.
This governmental structure is relatively modern (developed and finalised over the last fifty years), and represents a move towards greater centralisation, via the advent of the infocon, this timeline's analogue of the internet, and the greater world-shrinking connectivity it allowed. Previously, each continental group had it's own smaller version of the Imperial House, which recieved it's mandate directly from the monarch and his/her advisor council.
Sorry it took a while to reply, had to organise it enough to make sense (hopefuly)
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lamnay In reply to Neethis [2009-09-18 20:42:24 +0000 UTC]
It's ok and I can see what you mean.
Sounds very interesting.
I was also wondering what the main languages in Anglo-Iberia are?
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Neethis In reply to lamnay [2009-09-18 21:17:30 +0000 UTC]
A unified langauge was developed in the very late 1800's by scholars, but it never took off... generally forms of English and Spanish (mainly Castillian and Catalan, although sub-dialects exist in the American and African dominions) are used everywhere within the Empire, but Portugeuse and Dutch are also commonly found, as well as Italian dialects (although this last is mainly restricted to Naples/Sicily and parts of Anglo-Iberian Africa which had a high influx of Italian migrants).
The Empire has a langauge insistute, similar to the Institut Français of our own timeline, but it's more responsible for charting the changes and fluxes of the various Imperial langauges rather than setting standards for an "ideal" langauge...
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lamnay In reply to Neethis [2009-09-18 23:16:01 +0000 UTC]
Creating a new language is always going to be difficult, even without the opposition Esperanto had from Fascists and Communists.
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Neethis In reply to lamnay [2009-09-21 19:03:30 +0000 UTC]
The inventor being Jewish didn't help his aspirations in those dark days
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lamnay In reply to Neethis [2009-09-21 19:19:54 +0000 UTC]
I heard when China rebelled against the Qing they were going to make Esperanto the official Language, but logistics meant it failed.
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lamnay In reply to Neethis [2009-09-21 23:45:21 +0000 UTC]
Because of the millions of illiterate people who spoke a different language.
If you mean motivation, probably because they were full of revolutionary idealism.
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