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Phracker In reply to Graeystone [2018-11-12 05:10:29 +0000 UTC]

It actually comprises 100% of the "counter-intuitive fun facts" listed on Cracked.com.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to Graeystone [2018-05-25 17:38:47 +0000 UTC]

Now if you make legit discoveries and quantify your findings, and those discoveries and findings "offend people" you get fired. But if you pull bullshit out of your ass that doesn't "offend people" you get more funding. 

"There is no scientific evidence that two genders exist"
Uhhh... chromosomes, motherfucker. Chromosomes.
"Shut up thats racist"

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Graeystone In reply to paradigm-shifting [2018-05-25 23:24:35 +0000 UTC]

Didn't Einstein say something about his own theories and ideas - "Here's all the stuff I figured out. . .and someday it may be proven wrong."

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paradigm-shifting In reply to Graeystone [2018-05-26 03:20:14 +0000 UTC]

Einstein knew he wasn't perfect. Hell, he had lots of issues: having sex with his own cousin being one of many.

He knew that humans view the world as they are and not as it is. So he knew that any human can be wrong about anything at any given time, regardless of how right any human might think they are.

Hell these days spirituality has become a science and science has become a religion in its own right. The lines between everything become incredibly convoluted. When we notice things becoming convoluted, a person makes one of two choices:  they either surrender to the idea that they are capable of making mistakes and perceiving things wrong (or) they rage against reality with continued insistence that their view and only their view is the singular and only correct view, be it in terms of alleged scientific accuracy and / or mistaking their own subjective perspectives of scriptures as being the literal word of God -- instantly making it so that they are #1 - virtue signaling using the lord's name in vanity and #2 - putting themselves as a god before God.

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Graeystone In reply to paradigm-shifting [2018-05-26 05:13:56 +0000 UTC]

What it all comes down to - "What is it a person believes/has faith in that is greater than themselves."

Unfortunately there a matter that is not dealt with - "What keeps a person in check when they express their belief in others."

Jesus and later the Apostles talked about love, forgiveness, kindness, charity, etc, as the best way for believers to express their belief/faith.

About things being convoluted-

First Time - Accident

Second Time - Coincidence

Third Time - Happenstance

Fourth Time - CONVOLUTED

Five Time - Conspiracy

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paradigm-shifting In reply to Graeystone [2018-05-26 05:43:20 +0000 UTC]

I think that the biggest conspiracy of all, is what I refer to as "The Non-Conspiracy, Conspiracy".

It is when you take something that isn't a conspiracy at all, hype it up to the max as if it is -- making it so that "conspiring to make something a conspiracy that actually isn't one" is in and of itself, the conspiracy. Then as logical fallacies fly out of the wood work, they can be used in psychological operations for divide and conquer.

In simple terms: gossip and the blame game.

Coincidence or COINCIDE-NCE are things that yes do in fact "coincide", we're just not necessarily able to understand how or why. Someone from the 1400s would not be able to understand how the laptop coincides with the Internet, because they barely have a gasp on what a laptop is, and the Internet seems so etheric to them that it is beyond their understanding. 

Illusion doesn't mean "fake", it means we don't fully understand something and therefore we are filling in the gaps of our misunderstanding with assumptions. The stage magician really is making something vanish. To assume he or she is or is not using actual magic or just smoke and mirrors, is an assumption made to fill in the gaps in our understanding. Physical reality is made up 100% of energy and technically is not physical. The illusion of physicality is created because energy is always moving. Just as an electric fan when it is shut off, you can see the separate fan blades and you can put your hand between the blades. Yet when the fan is turned on, the blades are moving so fast that it appears as if it is one solidified circle. 

Contradiction and paradox are also illusions. They are created when we hold a belief system that things which are too different from each other and / or polar opposite of each other can not co-exist at the same time. When we refuse to be open to understanding how yes actually they can co-exist at the same time, this creates the illusions of contradiction and paradox. One classic example is light and dark. People assume that light lacks darkness and yet, what we have labeled as "the visible light spectrum" is actually a mixture of light and dark that is compatible with our eyes. If we were subjected to 100% light, we would vaporize. A nuclear detonation and the surface of the sun, are 100% light. There is even light in the darkness and some people can see it and others can not. I'm not sure what allows some people to see it and others to not be able to -- I am one who actually can. When I am subjected to pitch black darkness, I am able to see what seems like an infinite number of incredibly tiny white balls of light all dancing around each other at high speed. The light I can see from the energy inherent in the space between physical things is not enough to light up a room or make me able to see the objects hiding in the darkness, but I am able to see the light within the darkness. A lot of people are able to see this and just as many are not able to. I am also able to hear the sound of silence, as the song says. Some people can hear it, others can not and again -- I have no idea how or why some can and others can not.

Logical fallacy is the incorrect connecting of data that does not connect but has the illusion of being connected. For example: debating the marital status of the number 5, or the political orientation of a tuna fish sandwich. I use those examples because they are obvious even to the biggest idiot as to why those questions are logical fallacies. Numbers are not able to have marital statuses, and tuna fish sandwiches are unable to have a political orientation. It is completely clear to even the most dull intellectual neanderthal as to why this is the case. But imagine for a moment hypothetically if people did not understand these things and they actually tried to debate these questions as if they were valid topics. The debate would be endless and pointless, and no one would be able to see it. To even suggest it would end a person up with the consequence of suffering outrage and ridicule from the masses who actually believed these were valid debate points. There is a seemingly endless list of debates which fall into this sort of category that people think are real questions, and there is no way in hell that it will ever be possible to get them to understand the logical fallacies in their line of questioning.

Convolution is created by cognitive dissonance when fact and truth collides with logical fallacy, lies, illusions, contradictions and paradoxes. The mind is so used to narrow concepts that an expanded concept blurs the lines between everything and everything else. The truth is, the lines are still there. But these lines are different from the lines everyone has been taught. A refusal to expand the mind increases convolution to the point of confusion and anxiety and trying to cling to obsolete data points becomes so exhausting that it creates suffering.

In saying all of this I am not assuming that you do or do not know these things already, I am merely sharing my perspective for whatever its worth.

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Graeystone In reply to paradigm-shifting [2018-05-26 13:33:51 +0000 UTC]

Coincidence or COINCIDE-NCE are things that yes do in fact "coincide", we're just not necessarily able to understand how or why. Someone from the 1400s would not be able to understand how the laptop coincides with the Internet, because they barely have a gasp on what a laptop is, and the Internet seems so etheric to them that it is beyond their understanding.

Interesting thing about that. Regardless of era, people are not stupid. They just lack the knowledge of what something is. There are stories of 'modern missionaries' going to 'primitive/isolated tribes' with what passed for 'modern technology'. At first the primitive people thought technology was magic/god. However when it was explained to them that it was neither magic nor divine, they accepted the truth of the technology.

There is an intellectual dishonesty that I dare say borders on bigotry. There are people who say a primitive person can never understand modern technology. They go as far as to claim that certain things like the Pyramids weren't built by man but by aliens. Its like such people want anyone else but humans to be the builders/creators of these ancient things.

I'm not sure what allows some people to see it and others to not be able to -- I am one who actually can. When I am subjected to pitch black darkness, I am able to see what seems like an infinite number of incredibly tiny white balls of light all dancing around each other at high speed. The light I can see from the energy inherent in the space between physical things is not enough to light up a room or make me able to see the objects hiding in the darkness, but I am able to see the light within the darkness.

You got some cat in you? Right now I'm imagining you with cat ears and a tai. . .anime style. . l.

To me contradictions are two or more things or ideals that are opposing in nature. For example saying, "I oppose abortion except when the mother's life is stake or because of incest/rape." That is a contradiction.

Paradoxes on the other hand (again my opinion) is something that can be imagined but cannot be brought about in reality because the end result simply put cannot happen. Like the idea of going back in time and killing one's own grandparents/parents/self as a baby. If a paradoxical ideal is somehow brought into fruition and there is some kind of result then it is no longer a paradox and becomes a part of reality.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to Graeystone [2018-05-26 15:27:34 +0000 UTC]

I'm not trying to insinuate that primitive peoples were stupid, I'm just saying that to understand the Internet requires prerequisite knowledge and there probably just wouldn't be time for someone of that era to learn it, unless they were genius-level adaptable, or a child. Not to mention, speaking of bigotry -- a person's individual bias always gets in the way of learning regardless of what era you're in. Thats always been the case. As Einstein once sarcastically but also truthfully said: "common sense is the sum of all of the prejudices one has collected by the time they are 18". He might not have worded it like that verbatim, I know I paraphrased. But my paraphrase still makes his intended point.

I'm sure there were / are many primitives who might view technology as magic / divine no matter what, the same way even some modern fundamentalist religious people still to this day view some forms of technology as evil. Take Mennonites and The Amish, for example. I know I'm over simplifying in order to reduce the length of this reply and make it flow better, but those people basically assume that technology is a deception created by Satan to test the faith of humans. Hell, we have people in this modern era who use computers who believe the Earth is fucking flat. 

As for aliens, who is to say that the term alien in and of itself isn't bigoted? Maybe the solar system is occupied and has been occupied by advanced civilizations since long before humans were here and maybe we're the new kids on the block. So if the pyramids were built by aliens, maybe those aliens aren't so alien. If they were here FIRST then they aren't alien at all. They only seem alien to our narrow indoctrinated paradigms. There are still many religious people who if we did make contact with beings from another world, would assume that they are angels and / or demons. Acting as if they get to decide how God populates the Universe or not. How God has dealt with the rest of the Universe is none of our fucking business until we're advanced / mature enough to start exploring it. 

As I already stated, I can't see in the dark. I can see the speckles of light in the darkness. For lack of a better way of phrasing it, you might call it "the outer edge of the zero point field". Seeing that does not light up my hallway at night. lol. Would be nice if it did.

I just see pitch black nothing with dancing light speckles, as opposed to only just pitch black nothing. But those light speckles do not act like fire flies, unfortunately.

I do not have cat vision.

In my opinion, I don't think your example of a contradiction is so much of a contradiction as it is a logical fallacy aka "a marital status of the number 5" argument. I think the argument of abortion vs no abortion is a marital status of the number 5 sort of debate because science makes a few things very clear. Within the first 3 months of pregnancy, you are dealing with a non-sentient lump of cells that are no more sentient than the billions of sperm that get spermicided every time a guy pleasures himself to porn. There is no brain. No central nervous system. Nothing that is self aware or capable of feeling pain. Once it is sentient, then its murder. Once it has a brain and a spinal cord, it should not be aborted. This is science fact regardless of how people justify it. Religious people like to make the argument that once the sperm goes into the egg the deal is sealed. But science proves otherwise and I don't think that science and spirituality are enemies. Science is the exploration of how creation operates. God is not some control freak asshole who wants us to be dumb willfully ignorant morons who can't ever understand anything about creation. We are exploring and learning as all children do and should.

I was going to mention the grandfather paradox but felt I had typed enough. The multiverse negates the grand father paradox.You go back in time and kill your own grand father and you have simply entered into another timeline / multiverse aspect in which someone both from the future AND another UNIVERSE, came back and killed him and in that Universe, and that was always supposed to have happened, because it is a different Universe in which that is the historical record for that Universe. So you return to the future (and your own universe) to find that nothing was changed.

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Graeystone In reply to paradigm-shifting [2018-05-26 22:45:05 +0000 UTC]

Take Mennonites and The Amish, for example. I know I'm over simplifying in order to reduce the length of this reply and make it flow better, but those people basically assume that technology is a deception created by Satan to test the faith of humans.

The Mennonites are way more open to modern technology than the Amish. The Amish, while 'prudish' around modern technology are not as extreme as they used to be. I've seen Amish in stores use debit/credit cards. They have working electricity in their homes but don't own a television or computer. And many still won't drive. Overall some still use Horse and Buggy while speaking German while others own a Car and speak English as their chosen language. There's even a Mennonite Church not too far from where I live and every Sunday the parking lot is filled with cars.

In my opinion, I don't think your example of a contradiction is so much of a contradiction as it is a logical fallacy aka "a marital status of the number 5" argument.

I just wanted to focus on the words themselves and how they are contradictory in nature. I didn't intend to get into any of the moral/opinionated issues such words bring. Look at it another way, "I completely oppose abortion." and "I completely support abortion." Neither of those have any contradiction to. The contradiction comes from the 'mixing' of the two lines of thought in some way like the sentence I originally used.

I was going to mention the grandfather paradox but felt I had typed enough

Has the theory of the multiverse become scientific fact/truth?

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paradigm-shifting In reply to Graeystone [2018-05-27 20:02:39 +0000 UTC]

I also wanted to add that without the safe guard of a multiverse, that the invention of time travel in and of itself would automatically and by default create a grand father paradox even if no one goes back in time and kills their own grand father. This concept is known as the butterfly effect.

Even minor changes at the point of origin ripple out from ground zero of this temporal paradox which make the damage to space time increasingly catastrophic as they move forward into the future.

Someone invents a time machine. They go back to the year 1960 and they have a burger at Mc Donalds.

The fact that they did this now drastically changes the life flow of everyone around them. The person behind them is now 5 mins late in getting their food relative to the original timeline. This then perhaps causes them to get into the fatal car accident at an interception they cross, that they did not get into originally. Now they will never have all of the interactions with all of the people they previously had interactions with, which now similarly creates this exact same sort of effect on a mass scale.

People die that weren't supposed to. People are born who originally did not exist in the original timeline. These ripples then become so catastrophic that wars did not happen that originally did, and wars happened that originally did not. This creates serious changes in the global economy causing things that were never invented to be invented, and things that were invented to have never been invented. Eventually reaching the point that the person who originally invented time travel never invented time travel. So they never went back in time to start off this catastrophic chain reaction. Because it was never started and nothing was ever disrupted, that person did invent time travel, which then changes things back so that the disruption does occur. A building osculation of creation and uncreation begins to amplify until it damages space-time so irreconcilably, that all of reality cases to exist because it tears to the point of final destruction. Which then in and of itself creates a temporal paradox because if space-time is completely destroyed, then the events which lead to its destruction never happened which means space-time was not completely destroyed. And because it was not completely destroyed, now all of then things that destroyed space-time are allowed to happen which subsequently destroys space-time.

So the existence of the multiverse would need to exist in order to safe guard against this sort of shit. Because here is the irony: if the multiverse did not exist, it would be created once this disruption process became too intense because both original and new timelines would keep popping in and out of existence, which means they all exist and simultaneously, they all don't exist. This in and of itself is multiversal. So even if the multiverse started out as not being a thing, the second someone creates and uses time travel, the multiverse would have to come into existence. 

And with continued technological advancement, it is highly unlikely that someone somewhere either has never or will never create it.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to Graeystone [2018-05-27 19:28:56 +0000 UTC]

As for Amish and Mennonites -- I didn't know they were evolving. However as you said, the stigmas are still there, even if they are not as extreme as in the past.

As for abortion, my point on it is that the issue is not completely black or white, hence the science I gave about it that both sides tend to ignore. The Pro-Choice side ignores it because it then implies that even though yes they are right that they have a choice, that they also have a required moral response ability that comes with having that choice. The Pro-Life side ignores it because the science calls some of their other belief systems into question, and many religious people view reevaluating their religious beliefs as a form of blasphemy / being influenced by Satan. 

As for the multiverse -- superposition has been scientifically proven and the lack of existence of a multiverse seems highly unlikely given the nature of what superposition is and how it functions. There are also many things we assume are true but are admittedly only theories. The Big Bang is an unproven theory that most people accept as truth. The theory of the atom is still a theory and no one has proven atoms even exist. Yet history tells us that we have split the atom while science tells us that atoms have never actually been seen nor proven. 

I would also like to note that I personally would like to think the multiverse exists, simply because I refuse to believe that creation is so poorly constructed that one sentient being from one race could potentially destroy all of reality, just by inventing a time machine and then fucking up with it. 

For that matter, God has not been scientifically proven anymore or less than much of our science has been. Yet how many people act as if belief and fact are the same thing?

You'd need a time machine to absolutely prove or disprove Jesus and I have no clue what would be required to absolutely scientifically prove or disprove God. A person can have an experience that absolutely proves God to them, but the conundrum is that they have no way of absolutely proving that experience to others, so its back to square one.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to Kajm [2018-02-15 19:12:00 +0000 UTC]

Glad you like it. It won't force people to see reason. But its nice for just saving your keystrokes and not wasting your time on closed minds.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to ZED-EYE [2017-06-08 19:15:19 +0000 UTC]

Thanks -- and: when I make minor updates on something, I'll tell it to announce it to my watchers. So "new deviations" that are "older deviations" is merely that happening. No, I don't recall exactly what about it that I updated. Could have been as simple as correcting some spelling errors, or could be as much as rewriting an entire deviation description. deviantART doesn't have a CVS revision log for each deviation so

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ZED-EYE In reply to paradigm-shifting [2017-06-13 04:24:33 +0000 UTC]

Ahhh... I sure hope I have that feature (wherever it is) switched off when I do changes to my stuff...  Sometimes I'll reupload something multiple times because I'm such a perfectionist.

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SafeInternetProtocol In reply to masonicon [2017-02-03 19:40:18 +0000 UTC]

I hope you realised, that I can and will debunk your 9/11 theory with a simple thought experiment:

Is there an easier solution, that doesn't involve destroying the WTC? Answer: Yes, if the NORAD just simply shot down the airliner, the tragedy would be there, and, we can also keep the WORLD TRADE CENTER.

Also what idiot would build an economic centre in his mass ritual site instead of a hotel or something similar?

And I only used movie critic tactics and fridge logic.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to masonicon [2017-01-30 07:16:40 +0000 UTC]

Agreed. Though many conspiracy researchers also fall victim to the same mentality and so instead of pooling their data together cooperatively in search of greater understanding of the world stage -- there is a lot of in fighting and researchers attacking other researchers and all sorts of that kind of nonsense. This is what happens when we live in a society that makes us think that having the appearance of "being correct", be it real correctness or just illusion / delusion, is the absolute most important thing. In that state, data is pitted against data, instead of being organized and properly sorted and connected. A huge egoic dick wag.

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masonicon In reply to paradigm-shifting [2019-06-23 00:28:03 +0000 UTC]

decent if not good example of Conspiracy Theorists fall victim to that mindset is: David Icke forgetting Reptilians can be poorer than white collars financially, etc

sorry for very late reply

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paradigm-shifting In reply to masonicon [2019-06-26 05:56:02 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, thats fine. 

They put the so-called elites on a pedestal way too much. They have flaws like anyone else. The conspiracy theorists tend to perpetuate the myth of the so-called elites being of kin to infallible demon-gods, which ironically makes conspiracy theorists their best controlled opposition asset.

It reminds me of Stargate SG1 where the Ja'Fa believe that the Gou'old are "gods who are infallible and can not die". When in truth, they are just as much flesh and blood as anyone else. They were just running a highly successful propaganda campaign.

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masonicon In reply to paradigm-shifting [2019-06-26 06:10:04 +0000 UTC]

masonicon.tumblr.com/post/1605…

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paradigm-shifting In reply to masonicon [2019-06-26 06:27:58 +0000 UTC]

Yep, that is not "new news" to me. 

Even so-called Truthers have their own version of the main stream these days. If you don't blindly believe whatever the most trendy conspiracy theory says and you dare question it, you will get attacked by both the truthers and the main stream for failing to conform to both group think camps.

Neither camp wants you to ever question anything. 

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masonicon In reply to paradigm-shifting [2019-06-26 07:19:55 +0000 UTC]

here's my confession about Abovetopsecret dot com:  Abovetopsecret.com has failed meapparently, the conspiracy-theory forum of Abovetopsecret dot com has failed me from either deleting the thread of my own Hashemsfilms confession as well defending Useful idiots(that's bound to plague anything related to Paranormal with their bullshits) there. so the deletion of my Hashemsfilms confession thread there is quite possibly the last time I'll posted in Abovetopsecret.com(other than I occassionally reading it's post there) not only it's infiltrated with those that I loathed for their views. they deleted that thread cuz it's has the real truth of anything pertaining conspiracies
and don't get me wrong, I still hate the worldviews that pushed by those like Rationalwiki with all of my heart and sincerity as well my burning passion, and real world Conspiracy Theories are still practically my life. it just even Abovetopsecret.com got overrun by those that wants to keeps us blind from the real truth(from close-minded Science skeptics to Useful idiots)
not to mention there's someth

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paradigm-shifting In reply to masonicon [2019-06-26 08:00:52 +0000 UTC]

Most conspiracy theorists are usually correct about most things, however they fail to realize that being correct in and of itself is irrelevant. What have they done with their knowledge? NOTHING. Have they applied it? No, they have not. They are addicted to receiving praise from others for their correctness. They are narcissists.

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masonicon In reply to paradigm-shifting [2019-06-26 08:05:12 +0000 UTC]

anyway, would you make stamp that's inspired by this:   except it's about Conspiracy Theorists and Science Skeptics (that's easily real life(as opposed to fiction in general) equivalents of Fanon and Canon extremists respectively)

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paradigm-shifting In reply to masonicon [2019-06-26 08:53:18 +0000 UTC]

I don't usually make stamps, but I've got an abundance of memes I've already made in my gallery that I'm sure would be to your liking. 

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paradigm-shifting In reply to PrinceCheezburger [2015-06-26 06:18:41 +0000 UTC]

So many people on dA do EXACTLY what this list outlines, that I had to post it here. lol

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paradigm-shifting In reply to Kajm [2014-12-03 23:47:18 +0000 UTC]

You might like this then -- [video] Disruptive Technologies and Bad ScienceWhat Are Disruptive Technologies?
Disruptive Technologies are ideas and structures that promote the evolution of humanity through challenging the dogmas of the status quo. Every tool and every piece of knowledge that we use every day and take for granted, was once a disruptive technology.
"The main stream never accepts new ideas. It is simply just a fact that the opponents of new ideas, eventually die" -Wener Karl Heisenberg (father of quantum physics)

Electricity, broadcast TV and radio, the light bulb, vhs and cassette tape recorders, cd and dvd burners and even the Internet itself all had their humble origins as being very new, very scrutinized disruptive technologies that at first, were hated, shunned and rejected outright by society.  
Until humanity grows up a bit more, most new really good new paradigm ideas will always seem like a scam to those who are

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Dowlphin In reply to Kajm [2015-01-04 08:19:31 +0000 UTC]

Still surprised about hypocrisy? It's the tool of the self-unaware as well as of the self-aware wolves in sheep's clothes.
One of the best and concise texts, a bit like the above, about critical thinking and logical fallacies was published by CSICOP, who are violating many of those principles themselves (CSICOP being zealous debunkers and staunch disbelievers - typical risk of buying into 'organized skepticism').
People are capable of astonishing degrees of selective reason. They can be the most skilled, correct and sane-minded scientists, rhetorical analysts or whatever, but when something touches their sore spots, they throw all that in the wind.
Fear makes stupid. Even in the blink of an eye.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to Kajm [2014-12-03 23:47:42 +0000 UTC]

Don't really know those people, but they may or may not like this then -- [video] Disruptive Technologies and Bad ScienceWhat Are Disruptive Technologies?
Disruptive Technologies are ideas and structures that promote the evolution of humanity through challenging the dogmas of the status quo. Every tool and every piece of knowledge that we use every day and take for granted, was once a disruptive technology.
"The main stream never accepts new ideas. It is simply just a fact that the opponents of new ideas, eventually die" -Wener Karl Heisenberg (father of quantum physics)

Electricity, broadcast TV and radio, the light bulb, vhs and cassette tape recorders, cd and dvd burners and even the Internet itself all had their humble origins as being very new, very scrutinized disruptive technologies that at first, were hated, shunned and rejected outright by society.  
Until humanity grows up a bit more, most new really good new paradigm ideas will always seem like a scam to those who are

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