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Published: 2018-04-11 09:37:31 +0000 UTC; Views: 2454; Favourites: 30; Downloads: 2
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If standards haven't already hit rock bottom in recent years within the fandom, it's not reached sub-human levels of low to the point that we have people saying animated cartoons for Sonic shouldn't have any narrative to them, cause that would be too edgy. While the meme itself is showing games, the subject and point still stands.At this point we just have all people who actually say this shit take their avatars and write "lowest common denominator" on this, so we know in advance who to not converse with for intelligent conversation.
This is pretty much what TSS talked about here.
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Because that’s what sonic (or at least classic sonic) is. He’s MEANT to be light hearted and kinda funny with a little bit of cockiness. OBVIOUSLY sonic can be serious, but when nothing’s necessarily going to shit he doesn’t have to be.
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So the same excuse many fanboys came up with ONLY after Sonic Colors came out.
Once you can find me a qoute where someone who actually worked on Sonic said this before Unleashed, you're just repeating a lie. Sonic was the anti-mario who was made to be cool, who's character was based on the ninja turtles. Classic Sonic was anti-mario, this BULLSHIT of an animation is NOT anti-mario.
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Also people still thought Sonic was light hearted before colors or unleashed, LOOK AT THE 1990s SONIC CARTOONS FOR PETES SAKE LMAO.
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"Also people still thought Sonic was light hearted before colors or unleashed"
Ugh, no the didn't, in fact the same people who say Sonic is for kids were actually bad mouthing kids because they liked games like 06 and Unleashed, which they hated. Nobody would've fucked with Sonic like they did if they thought he was light hearted. I could tell as a kid that Sonic was different from kiddy games because I played kiddy games back then to, Sonic was nothing like them and that was the point in the first place.
"LOOK AT THE 1990s SONIC CARTOONS FOR PETES SAKE LMAO."
The one that had no reason to exist outside of being an expy of bug bunny and the road runner(AOSTH), the one where the guy behind it wanted Sonic to be a sci-fi movie(Satam), and the one made to advertise Sonic Advenutre(Underground). I think YOU need to look at those cartoons buddy. And in case you wanna try to act like this was about making Sonic serious, because you already made that mistake in your first comment, Sonic was a teen with attitude and basicly an asshole at times who barely took anything seriously unless things actually were serious, that didn't mean THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE didn't taker anything seriously.
"He was never ANTI-MARIO"
And you never had a argument in this conversation. Do a little research and you'll find out real quick.
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Okay, well pointing fingers at me isn't doing the trick either. I'm not saying that Sonic shouldn't kinda have an attitude or be serious at all! I love Unleashed and some of the stylistic choices for 06' are pretty great! One of my favorite Sonic games in history is SA1. I'm just saying that Sonic should be ALLOWED to be fun and bright when it needs to be. Mania Adventures just takes place after everything serious has already been resolved. I really like the stylistic choices and geekiness of Sonic Heroes and that game manages to still be serious and kinda edgy at times as well.
Also I get your point on the American Sonic cartoons, they were kinda retarded.
My whole point is, it's all about balance. Sonic should be kinda light hearted and silly like a cartoon character, but also serious and cocky like a teenager. That's just how his character works.
Also, Sonic was made back in the 1990's to be a competitor for Mario so that SEGA could compete with Nintendo. SEGA didn't hate Nintendo though and neither did Sonic. I mean, look at all the Olympics games Sonic and Mario have been in. Christ, even Ryan Drummond said as Sonic that he actually thought Mario was cool.
Sorry if I misconstrued you.
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You, you seem to have a lot twisted, some to the point they aren't even about what I actually said.
First, you need to understand that this was a response to this.
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You can see the people here saying Sonic shouldn't have a story and only needs to be fun and colorful. On top of that note, Sonic was never colorful to the level that was taken in the animation, it's not bad on it's own but it doesn't help with the ton is overly light, and fun doesn't always have to be childish, in fact you should stop using fun to describe something, that's not how it works.
And you didn't get the point, I didn't say the shows were retarded, I was pointing out the fact that only 1 of the shows you mentioned pushed your point and it had no point other then the creator of it wanting it to be silly, while Satam and Underground were made for more serious or balanced tones in mind, Satam had some silliness to it but it was turned up because of executive meddling, not because Sonic needs to be fun. You're also making the mistake that me saying the story shouldn't just be colorful and fun, which was someone else's words, doesn't mean I think Sonic himself should be serious, I said he didn't take things seriously unless he needed to because it's true. There's no reason to make the tone as light hearted as mania is unless the person behind it chooses to, Sonic himself was cooler then that. I've said many times Sonic needs a balance, but balance is not having both light and dark content together, it was having a middle ground between the two, and more often Sonic was lean towards a darker tone by the end of most of the games.
The Anti-Mario remark you got wrong. He's THEE anti-mario, meaning Sonic's overall design and character was the antithesis of Mario. Nobody said anything about how Sonic actually feels about Mario, Mario doesn't exists in his world so he can't have any thoughts about him, and things are only the way they are in that Olympics game because of the writing and Sega pushing Sonic as a kids franchise, when the only people who actually wanted it were grown ass men on the internet.
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He was never ANTI-MARIO, he was just Mario’s rival. He still reflects that attitude and spunk in Mania Adventures part 2.
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I don't hang around the sonic community, so I quite frankly haven't heard this argument before.
Honestly A good plot benefits the hedgehog a lot, particularly in external media. I don't see the problem with the mania shorts being independent stories with an interconnected plot.
What is the point of a plot less animation anyways.
And as far as edgy goes: The classic games are generally quite colorful, but they still have dark undertones.
It should be noted that "fun" is a very important part to making a game playable. If it's not fun to play but the story is good, perhaps it would be better as a film or comic than a game.
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The problem with the fun and gameplay part is it's often not the case where the game is not fun nor unplayable, at Sonic supposed worst, 06, the game still sold enough to make platinum hits and generally liked among consumers as opposed to hardcore gamers, but that's considering there are better example then 06. More often then not, gameplay quality isn't the issue so there's no reason to bring it, and even then, this was not the context fun was being used it, the context was making the content more color and light hearted that Sonic initially was. Of course the classic games were colorful, but a lot of games these days are colorful, it doesn't make them light hearted or deserving of having no plot because of it.
Far as a plot goes, it's always benefited Sonic well, the Mania short wasn't the problem, it was the fact people are using it to further their agenda.
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