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I'm kind of tired, so I'll just write up what I can remember. This'll probably be added to later:Britannia - mother of the British isles.
She was once the mysterious land known as Albion. Even though she was involved in trade, few really knew anything about her, with some people even claiming she was just a myth. Being Celtic, she is the younger sister of Gaul. And like Gaul, she too had to put up with unwanted attention from Rome.
Very much a love/hate situation, she and the empire had both moments of diplomatic bliss and violent conflict. At one point, pushed too far by the insult suffered by the tribal queen Boudicca, Britannia almost sent Rome packing altogether (the uprising she provoked was so fierce, it actually lead to Emperor Nero considering complete imperial withdrawal from the province). Although Rome's persistence won out in the end, this didn't mean she wouldn't smack him around the back of the head from time to time when he wasn't looking.
As Rome weakened, she kept getting attacked by Germanic tribes and the like. In the end, she would be killed by Saxon...
... Or can I say she didn't die, but rests in Avalon alongside the legendary King Arthur? Or maybe she is Avalon B|a HMM.
Just toying with ideas.
Character wise, she's sly with a sharp tongue, unafraid of speaking her mind. She's also very open, especially where sex is involved, seeing as Britons were noted by Roman writers for being pretty damn out and in the open over their sex lives. What did a British lady say to a Roman noblewoman upon being criticised for this?
"We consort openly with the best men, whereas you let yourselves be debauched in secret by the vilest".
I've been constantly debating who England's father could be. In the end, I find myself leaning towards Rome. Yes, overall English language and culture is mostly Germanic due to the Anglo-Saxon situation, but the fact Rome founded most of this country's most important cities (including the capital, London) and initial infrastructure, I can't help but like the idea. That, and the traditional Britannia personification is pretty damn Latin looking with her Roman outfit. Ireland was born from her relationship with Hibernia (though if Hidekaz hadn't said Ireland was England's older brother, I would have said Hibernia was Britannia's sister with Ireland as England's cousin), and Scotland from her relationship with Caledonia/Pictavia. The original name which Britannia was adapted from was used to refer to all of the British isles, hence the link between the brothers. England of course is "the traitor" - the one who allowed himself to be raised by the Angles and Saxons.
Apparently as a small child, me and my mother would play Boudicca, i.e: she would charge around with me in my pushchair with us yelling "death to the Romans!". Good times.
Edit - the nose was bugging me :'|
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TheHeirofIceandTime In reply to R-ninja [2012-01-12 18:25:13 +0000 UTC]
Thank you and you're welcome. I wanted I drew a picture of her and little Iggy.
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AskRepublicOfIreland [2012-01-04 19:05:55 +0000 UTC]
Oh my gosh, I really love all of your ancients, they look so cool and how you have drawn them...! *o* ΓΆ.ΓΆ
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monkeymaiden14 [2011-12-09 17:02:49 +0000 UTC]
SO THAT'S WHERE ENGLAND GOT THE EYEBROWS!!!!
Nice job though.
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pmo1413 [2011-12-09 02:18:15 +0000 UTC]
so are you going to do Pictavia and Hibernia next? also i like your idea that she is Avalon.
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Rikamew [2011-12-02 08:27:14 +0000 UTC]
So this is your version of his mumsy. She must be angry with him for ruining all those scones....
hmm....so if Rome is the father (manwhore) that make the italies and iggy cousins. Then again most nations that are on the same Continent would be considered cousins. Hetlais gets way to confusing when actual births are involved.
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spam1138 [2011-10-22 18:01:51 +0000 UTC]
if this is england's grandmother then who is her child that is england's parent? my idea is britannia had a doughter who was under attack by the pics then Saxon comes in and rescuse her, they then have a chiled togerther named england. one saxon retured to his home land he would have his own sons Germany and Prussia. makeing in fact Egland and Germany half brothers since after teh saxon invation english blood is mostly germanic
just an idea
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R-ninja In reply to spam1138 [2011-10-22 21:28:39 +0000 UTC]
I've explained in the artist's comments that Britannia is England's mother, and that I lean towards Rome being his father (from a more 'canon' perspective, I was glad to recently see Hidekaz confirm Britannia as such on his blog). A lot of people often seem to mistakenly think it was just the Saxons who came over to England, whilst neglecting the Angles and the Jutes (who occupied the lower areas of the country). Additionally, whilst not concrete, there are some signs that show the Germanic settlement wasn't entirely peaceful (not to metion not entirely successful in many regions).
Also saying that Saxon would be Germany and Prussia's father really wouldn't work - if anything, Germany (or HRE to be more precise) would be the son of Frank / the Franks, whilst Prussia's father would be Aestii or the Teutons. The Saxons come from a different geographical area than these two. I think the term 'brother' is used loosely where the modern German brothers are concerned, due to the number of Germanic tribes and kingdoms and the complicated relations therein.
Genetically the English are still predominantly Celtic, granted we have all sorts of blood including German and Basque.
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spam1138 In reply to R-ninja [2011-10-23 01:40:53 +0000 UTC]
if rome was his farther that would mean that england and italy are realated, I can see that being the case with france and spain (since he calls them brothers in the seires any way and those 3 countries are latin blooded). I know there were anglos and others besides the saxons but the charectore can only have one father and it is known mainly for the saxons, besides saxon would most likly have blonde hair like england and since your charectore here has green eyes like england.
I too was thinking about the Franks. maybe he was Saxon's brother who was gone fighting in Gaul and then came back to finnish his brother off. then raised saxon's son HRE as his own. since Germany represents all of the country he could be the son of any of the tribes. As for prussia maybe they are only half brothers
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R-ninja In reply to spam1138 [2011-11-05 00:32:30 +0000 UTC]
I really can't agree that England is largely associated with the Saxons considering the Anglo- suffix is what is predominantly used, as well as being the source of the name 'England'. Also please note this character has blonde hair, closer to the shade England has in the official art (being a dirty / dark blonde, not radioactive yellow as in the anime). That aside, I'd rather focus on historical fact over superficial reasons.
As I understand it, in canon France generally refers to himself as everyone's older brother, appearing as the oldest of the European countries rather than for reasons related to 'Latin blood'.
I have no idea why you would imply the the Saxons exterminated the Franks.
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spam1138 In reply to R-ninja [2011-11-06 00:42:25 +0000 UTC]
I thought that the holy roman empire was formed after the franks under Charlemagne took over the saxons (that is if I have my facts right)
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R-ninja In reply to spam1138 [2011-11-06 20:56:48 +0000 UTC]
Oh I'm sorry, I think I misread You were saying the Franks took over from the Saxons? That isn't so likely either, seeing as the HRE was essentially founded by Charlemagne of the Frankish Carolingian Empire.
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R-ninja In reply to spam1138 [2011-11-06 20:42:23 +0000 UTC]
Ah, see, I don't consider the Duchy of Saxony to be the same character as the old Saxons - seeing as the modern Saxon states (Lower Saxony, Saxony, and Saxony-Anhalt) are canonically Germany's siblings. Given HRE/Germany is the youngest sibling, they would have been around before he was founded.
But to try and get this straight - what you're suggesting is Saxon came back from England to kill his brother and take over? That doesn't really fit for me, especially seeing as the crown was passed on willingly.
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Listal0 [2011-08-20 01:56:33 +0000 UTC]
I love your designs. ^_^ It's interesting how you put the history in to. But this is the first I really heard of parents for the countries. I know the whole "Grandpa Rome" thing.
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ruamsa144 [2011-08-14 00:25:14 +0000 UTC]
I got a question! If you were to make Hibernia a mother of Ireland and a sister of Britannia. Would Ireland have a father or would the father just be unknown?
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R-ninja In reply to ruamsa144 [2011-08-22 16:40:27 +0000 UTC]
It's kind of messy, so 'unknown' would probably be the safest option. They wouldn't need a father anyway, really. A lot of the other nations seem to get by with just as vaguely defined relatives.
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amazon211 [2011-08-01 02:12:27 +0000 UTC]
Hmm, England had mentioned his scone recipe came from his "mumsy". Either Britannia's recipe is just nasty, or Arthur is a terrible cook.
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AlicePhantomhive1 In reply to amazon211 [2011-08-22 04:44:53 +0000 UTC]
Well...he MAY have inherited his cooking skills from her...who knows? or they're from Rome.
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gavorche-san In reply to ??? [2011-07-25 17:17:18 +0000 UTC]
Suddenly, Britian makes all that much more sense....
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basterd-ghurl In reply to ??? [2011-06-22 04:22:42 +0000 UTC]
If England is her son, and France is Gaul's son, and Britannia is Gaul's little sister, does that mean that England and France are cousins?!
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R-ninja In reply to basterd-ghurl [2011-06-22 17:27:11 +0000 UTC]
In name only - the ancient Britons were culturally Celtic rather than ethnically, so Britannia is more of an 'adopted' sister if anything
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basterd-ghurl In reply to R-ninja [2011-06-22 22:27:41 +0000 UTC]
OH, okay. That makes so much more sense, haha.
But seriously, can you imagine?
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woodlandarcheology In reply to ??? [2011-06-14 21:19:21 +0000 UTC]
A cool mom for England and his siblings.
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ReAdY-sEt-No In reply to ??? [2011-05-31 23:48:03 +0000 UTC]
I love your character designs!
But I have one question (somewhat irrelevant) is it official that Ireland is going to be male? I heard that Hidekaz was going to make a female character instead?
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R-ninja In reply to ReAdY-sEt-No [2011-06-01 18:15:17 +0000 UTC]
Thank you β₯
It isn't 100% official, but I do recall a while back that Hidekaz was debating England's 'older brothers', and that Ireland was one (who had even bushier eyebrows) - though he was just toying with ideas. I don't remember having seen anything about it being a girl.
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ReAdY-sEt-No In reply to R-ninja [2011-06-02 02:12:31 +0000 UTC]
Yea, I'm not so sure myself... To my opinion, Ireland just seems like more of a feminine country (the original name for Ireland, Γireann [Erin} or Γire, for example) and I think that Hetalia is a little short female characters as well. Also, on the Hetalia wiki page, on the article of Ireland it said that Hidekaz was still playing with ideas yes, but he was leaning more towards making Ireland a female character in the end (although she would probably be a crybaby character, and her relationship to England is still debatable) So I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that Ireland would be female. If not, then oh well.
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R-ninja In reply to ReAdY-sEt-No [2011-06-04 09:14:48 +0000 UTC]
Well, technically there should be two Irelands. If there's just the one, I imagine there might be one hell of an almighty upset seeing as Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland are two separate geo-political entities (like North and South Korea). But I definitely want one to be a girl I had a play around with designs a while ago [link]
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ReAdY-sEt-No In reply to R-ninja [2011-06-05 03:21:06 +0000 UTC]
true, true; and there is some more fanart depicting two Irelands as well... That idea in itself sounds much better than one male character representing Ireland as a whole. Hopefully, one boy and one girl *fingers crossed*
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ErinaEatYourBrains In reply to ??? [2011-05-21 14:26:06 +0000 UTC]
aah, this is so cool!!! she actually looks a little like england too, so i think you did awesome with this
p.s: 'DEATH TO THE ROMANS!!!' made me lol
XD
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R-ninja In reply to amazon211 [2011-05-21 14:54:52 +0000 UTC]
It's an emotie - the B are the eyes, the | is the mouth, and the a is a hand. All together B|a it's supposed to be a stern, thinking face scratching its chin. The 'HMM' is a pensive noise, naturally
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theubbergeek2 [2011-05-20 23:32:31 +0000 UTC]
It's to note as I said before she would be also the mother of the french Brittany minority; the celtic peninsula of France was not gaul anymore 0 the language faded and disapeared adn romanised, but came from Briton settlers-invaders.
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LostInTheRain In reply to ??? [2011-04-23 02:35:36 +0000 UTC]
I always kind of thoght a character for the Anglo-Saxons should have been England's dad, but then I remember you educating me awhile ago on your Anglo-Saxon OC's pic that the Anglo-Saxons where actually three different groups of people: Anglos, Saxons and Jutes. Still, I always had a single Anglo-Saxon character in my mind and can't get him out of my head now. Albion is spot on to what I've always imagined for England's mother, though I always thought of her with brown hair. No idea why. Also, would it be possible for Wales' father to be Cambria? If I am correct that was the ancient term for Wales so it could have been a seperate character? Sorry I'm rambling. XD Anyway, great job!
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R-ninja In reply to LostInTheRain [2011-04-24 18:26:08 +0000 UTC]
The idea of the Angles and Saxons being one character really doesn't sit well with me at all I'm afraid. Apart from being from two completely different regions, culturally they had some fairly major differences (for one thing, you only need to look at their jewellery and grave goods to see Angles preferred more bling whilst Saxons were somewhat more somber). As for 'Cambria' - Wales was indistinguishable from England in ancient times. They were considered part of the same landmass. Only when the Anglo-Saxons turned up did any real distinction come into play, and I understand 'Cambria' is a more recent term which appeared after this.
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LostInTheRain In reply to R-ninja [2011-04-24 18:55:40 +0000 UTC]
I can see where you are coming from. Just my lovely inaccurate brain at work. I suppose it came into mind since the original Britons where Celtic before being invaded by the Anglo-Saxons that both should be his respetive parents rather then Rome. If there really are that many differences a single Anglo-Saxon character would probably be very confused. XD Also, thanks for explaining the whole Cambria thing for me.
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R-ninja In reply to LostInTheRain [2011-04-24 21:46:29 +0000 UTC]
Ahh fair enough then Granted the Britons weren't actually Celtic in the genetic sense, only the cultural. And you're welcome.
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LostInTheRain In reply to R-ninja [2011-04-25 17:51:45 +0000 UTC]
Oh, really? I actually thought they where genetically Celtic, I read when the Anglo-Saxons invaded England the Celts actually fled the area into Scotland and Wales. Not sure how true that is though. The internet is not always a realiable source after all.
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brewcha [2011-02-23 14:13:18 +0000 UTC]
That's--THAT'S--Okay it must've been the eyebrows that threw me off. I hope I'm not the only one who thought Britannia was a guy at the first glimpse.
Lovely face and hair, anywho! And DEATH TO THE ROMANS DDDD<
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Redposion [2011-02-22 08:08:48 +0000 UTC]
Hm I'm not to sure about rome being the father. England itself I don't think existed till Rome lost its rule of Britannia??? However your right on the roman influence. I am now going to debate this all week, with my friends.
Love how sweet you made her face! Wonderful Work ^-^!
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dandoodle [2011-02-10 22:47:02 +0000 UTC]
I love her personality and bio specially the love/hate with rome. .. although i tiny part of me wishes she had super red hair
Is wales officially a boy then? i always imagined him as a girl. my welsh geography teacher once told me that wales had one of hightest percentage of national park agains land mass. pretty= girly in my mind lol . he could have been lying tho. And if it was a boy there would be an endless supply of sheep jokes
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R-ninja In reply to dandoodle [2011-02-10 22:59:47 +0000 UTC]
Thanks!
And it's not official, but Hidekaz has implied the rest of the United Kingdom are England's older brothers. He's only specifically mentionned Scotland and Ireland (hasn't said if it was Northern or the Republic), though, so it's still possible for Wales to be a girl.
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Yamato13 [2011-02-01 20:39:46 +0000 UTC]
Hm, Maybe Rome is the Father but England was raised by Germania until he died as well?
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joeabuy1000 [2010-12-04 11:09:58 +0000 UTC]
England's mum has got it going on.
Just for the sake of adding this joke about what was mentioned about women in ancient Britain. She's a pretty lady and she gets around. It had to be done.
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Morrigansfury In reply to ??? [2010-12-02 16:25:22 +0000 UTC]
You have to make Tartessos
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AlicePhantomhive1 In reply to ??? [2010-11-15 00:32:47 +0000 UTC]
personaly belive that England's older brother's he mentions in the series are Scotland ,Ireland and Wales.
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