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Description I decided to delve even further into other artist's versions of kaiju for this one. Now, the actual Godzilla 2000 is not in here and theres a reason for that. One, there are more versions of Godzilla period then there are of one particular suit. Two, I hate the purple spikes 2000 has so I'd like to distance myself away from it as much as possible, though the head and everything else are fine. Anway, Here are the four I picked based on just being so radically different from each other and all being created after the year 2000, thus 'Godzilla 2000 Study'.

Final Wars Concept Godzilla by Toho:
I personally like this version alot. It's dark, powerful, and generally scary as hell. It has that doom eye look that the GMK Godzilla has but its more refined and it's body isn't really ponderous looking. This version has a pretty athletic build and a solid upright posture that gives it a good degree of presence. The odd thing about FW Concept Godzilla is that he has an element of Burning Godzilla with the red chest. The nose is rather oddly placed, being up near his eyes. He's also a very thorny bastard with clusters of them on the shoulders and rows of them down his legs. Touching this Godzilla is going to hurt. His arms are respectfully beefy and his claws look deadly and powerful. His tail seems a tad on the short side but that may be because of the perspective. This Godzilla has only two rows of spikes and they start rather high on his neck so he kinda got this mowhawk thing going. Generally I like this one and aside from an odd choice in spike placement he's an effective contender.

Godzilla Neo by Matt Frank:
You guys should have known I'd eventually get around to really analyzing this bad boy. The Godzilla that started the 'saurian movement' amongst Godzilla depictions, Godzilla Neo is what happens when you take Godzilla and make him conform to a mostly full dinosaur skeleton structure. His face and neck are perhaps the best parts, that theropod like skull and powerful armored neck and muscled throat are perhaps the most enjoyable things about this Godzilla as we could easily imagine this guy peeking around the corner of Jurassic Park one rainy night. His arms are anchored further down due to his more angled spine yet they are longer and more muscular with the thumb ending up as a dew claw like spike. The waist is where it gets kinda weird with it angled down and back while the legs are still mounted up front. Basically Godzilla Neo is drawn with the same body of most fantasy theropods, giving him slightly stronger prehistoric roots without having him conform to the straight horizontal spine that all real theropods have. He's a mutation after all so it understandable. His legs are thick and stocky but not overly so. Not sure if he could support himself with that leg structure but he's a kaiju so who cares. His feet have three large claws while the fourth is now a miniscule dew claw near his ankle. Moving to the tail, its decidedly gator like with the flat paddle toward the end and razor spines along the top. The spines all kinda cluster near the middle of his back with the largest one over the shoulders rather than in the middle where it usually is. The spines start in three rows down his head and back and converge into one line straight down his tail. I see what you did there Mr. Frank...Putting only one row down the tail to avoid one of the pains of drawing Godzilla, the hilariously tiny rows of spines. Well played sir, well played. This Godzilla has a dark green top and a silver grey belly so it blends the 2000's green with the 1990's and eariler black. A very reptilian eye and that little ear seal the deal and Godzilla Neo is a very acceptable version. Real dinosaur anatomy be damned .

Legend Godzilla by ChaosGhidorah:
ChaosGhidorah takes what made the Heisei era kaiju interesting and builds on it. Basically all his kaiju have powerful legs, heavily built chests, and are thornier than a hedgehog. His version of Godzilla is a good example. First thing you'll notice is that its very muscled and brutish looking with strong legs and a big chest. Notice that I did not say fat legs, there is some serious definition on those legs so he's turned the Heisei trap into a strength in his design work. The face is another odd thing you'll notice. Usually Godzilla has a mix between dinosaur and cat when it comes to his face. Here the cat has been replaced with wolf as he has a very angular snout and big fangs nestled under a large nasal chamber, at least compared to other Godzilla's. It has ears back there somewhere, though you could honestly mistake it for a spike since they are freaking everywhere. Another thing about his Godzilla is that it is absolutely lathered in spikes, they are absolutely everywhere from his head all the way to the tip of his tail. Touching this Godzilla will send you to the emergency ward with multiple puncture wounds. The belly is the only place there are no spikes, its a smooth reptilian texture and light gray as opposed the slate black of his hide. The eyes are similar to the GMK's but whether he's blind, partially blind or just under high tension everyday is anyone's guess. His spines are normal by Godzilla standards. Overall all a very powerful build and edgy style with this one.

Genesis Godzilla by Tyzilla33191
The Genesis series is slow in coming with only a couple monsters having been seen. Anguirus and Godzilla being the most looked over and redesigned. This is the current style of Genesis Godzilla, at least for right now. While ChaosGhidorah seemed to meld some Heisei into his designs, Tyzilla has elements of Showa in his. Genesis Godzilla has big intelligent eyes that just ooze character. My sketch here doesn't really do the head justice as its disproportionate to its body so thats why it looks rather funky here. Anyway, the classic muzzle is back as is the tri-chambered chest and the stocky legs. Though they aren't bulging with excess skin like the Heisei versions so thats good. The arms are nice and long so he could do so interesting stuff with those. The spikes are whats different with this one. The head spines are actually clustered spikes that run down his neck and then become the standard three rows of spines that we're used to seeing. This Godzilla is very solid and has elements of that old school charm for those who can appreciate it.

So many designs, each with their own style and merits...I could just go with the normal Godzilla 2000 and just change the spine colors. I can't use him as is though because I fucking hate the purple spikes. Let me repeat that for clarity: I FUCKING HATE THE PURPLE SPIKES!!! There, I've said it, now the rest of him was fine but seriously, purple? Purple and green do not look good, unless you still live in the 70's, which defeats the purpose of a millenium look in the first place. There are probably some of you that like the color. I like the design of the spikes themselves but the color must go. I don't care if they're black or tinted red or bone white like they used to be. I'm not having purple, it can go crawl in a hole and die. It's too close to pink for my comfort...god I think I just blinded myself. Anway, I'll probably take the best features of all of them and combine them into a new Hybrid Millenium Godzilla, how's that strike you? You fellow Godzilla fans get to help me with this so tell me the pro's and cons of the versions featured here or what you think is important in a Millenium Godzilla.

-RenDragonClaw
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RenDragonClaw In reply to ??? [2019-12-28 08:23:21 +0000 UTC]

While the execution of FW was all over the place, the concept art for it was pretty baller. Kaiser Ghidorah looks much better on paper then he does in suit (limitations not withstanding). Goji's concept art is probably the most 'intense' he's ever been barring Shin but it was a bit busy. A movie where Godzilla fights another Godzilla in full capacity would be the one thing they've never really done. Teased at, but not done. FW's concept has that malice that GMK does but it has a bit more character to it as opposed to soulless revenant. So I can see it.

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zachman2016 [2018-08-06 23:53:56 +0000 UTC]

Nice very nice art of the king of monsters. Ps what do you think of godzilla's 2014 design?

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RenDragonClaw In reply to zachman2016 [2018-08-07 07:53:34 +0000 UTC]

I think it's a really solid design that hits a lot of the good points of what makes Godzilla work. I made another design that had him as a base a lot later.

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zachman2016 In reply to RenDragonClaw [2018-08-07 15:21:32 +0000 UTC]

Yeah that's what I think of it too. The reason I asked is because when the movie was released i read somewhere on the internet that some fans thought he was fat, which to me sounds ridiculous, heisei (even though it's one of my favorite designs) looks fat, what with those thunder thighs that would make female celebs jealous.
                                                                                                                                                                                           Three more things, first do  you think a Godzilla film that focused on the fear thalassophobia would be interesting? Second how would counter-shading look on Godzilla in your opinion (any one of godzilla's designs)? Third what's your favorite Godzilla suit designs and movies and your least favorite ones?

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RenDragonClaw In reply to zachman2016 [2018-08-08 08:59:53 +0000 UTC]

Legendary Goji is pretty thick, but not in an obese way. He's built like a mountain and is very stout and blocky to reinforce the idea that he's really heavy but also incredibly durable. The Heisei Godzilla, at least in concept art, tries to convey all that flesh as actually muscle. That's why it has tapered sections as opposed to being overlapping rolls or just a wall of pudge. His suits always made him look pretty fat though because of just how absurdly large his legs were to the rest of his body. Desotoroyah and Space Godzilla suffer from this even more than Godzilla does due to all their extra ornamentation and parts that makes them look explosively cluttered and bulky visually as well as physically. But Godzilla's tail, neck, chest, and head are all pretty tapered and mobile even if his arms never got higher than his chest. Heisei monsters rely extensively on their energy attacks for a reason lol.

Thalassophobia probably goes hand in hand with counter-shading. Counter Shading is seen a lot in aquatic creatures to prevent prey from seeing them and likewise being preyed upon themselves. A Godzilla that focused on this particular fear and used counter-shading would be a lot more aquatic, far more than the normal. It would also have to focus more on naval confrontations both military and civilian with a city destruction scene that involves flooding a majority of it and Godzilla taking advantage of the higher water levels. His size and atomic energy allowing him to actually induce tsunamis. He'd also be more keen on actually predating on things physically so he'd probably have to have ways to catching smaller prey in the water like prehensile barbels or tongues. His spines glowing would be bioluminescence used to attract prey to him and act as a foreboding warning before he's about to strike as a single 'pulse' could probably kill everything around him; making feeding time easier. He'd have to convey intentions and emotions through actions and body language more than expression as his design would incorporate those vacant stares and ensnaring teeth that make aquatic predators such a trigger to our mammalian brain. That would be how I see a Godzilla film based on that fear and using that design element to work. 

I grew up with Heisei Godzilla so a lot of my favorites are from that period, but MosuGoji is pretty much the best one from the Showa era. Soshingeki was good too. 84Goji is among my close favorites as I have empathy for that particular Godzilla. BioGoji and DesuGoji have the best bodies and eye/face combinations of the Heisei series. Godzilla2000/MireGoji was really solid even with the brighter colors. GMKGoji is flat out freaking evil but aside the utterly blank eyes he's a really solid design. In motion FinalGoji is really great though how his head and neck connect looks too tripod like for my tastes. LegendaryGoji is fantastic for a rebooted design, the most organic Goji to date though I miss the ears. PlanetGoji is too fucking huge for his own good but he's literally a mountain. ShinGoji is the most successfully horrifying Godzilla to date whose inclusion of a very small pupil to his eyes make him more unnerving in a very Yokai-esque fashion. Overall BioGoji and DesuGoji will always be my happy medium faves between the heroic but cranky Soshigeki & Legendary and the straight up evil GMK and Shin.

My least favorites are KiryuGoji who always looks, literally, retarded due to how his eyes just stare into space at nothing in particular. The MusukoGoji for being pretty damn ugly. KinGoji, despite it's good proportions has the same problem that KiryuGoji does and that he looks wall eyed as fuck. Shodai is 'okay' but to me his head seems super bald and it just makes him look literally as old as the original film. He's a quintessential Godzilla though so I'm not as hard on him as I am on the earlier ones mentioned. Especially fucking KiryuGoji.

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zachman2016 In reply to RenDragonClaw [2018-08-09 05:46:59 +0000 UTC]

Exactly those reasons you listed are why legendarygoji is my most favorite Godzilla design with most heisei designs second.  Those ideas you listed sound like they could be pretty cool if done right. I asked you about the thalssophobia idea for Godzilla mainly because I've gotten more of an interest in the ocean what with it being 95% unexplored and the weird recordings mostly from the 90s like "bloop", "julia", "upsweep", and "slowdown to name a few of the did so this movie design how would you personally visualize Godzilla looking (height,lenght,weight,eye color etc)? And do you think it could be scary as well?                                                                                                                                                                                            I got two more things to ask you, then I'm done, first have you seen the new Godzilla:king of the monsters trailer and if you have what do you think of it?  Last i read this biology report of kaiju on angelfire called "TOWARDS A THEROY AND BIOLOGY OF KAIJU" I think you should check it out.  Ps keep up the awesome artwork man.

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RenDragonClaw In reply to zachman2016 [2018-08-09 10:30:12 +0000 UTC]

I loved the trailer. For the first time in a long , long time, all the original stand alone A-listers of Toho's roster are in a movie together. Monster Zero was probably one of the best Showa movies because it was the first time that Kaiju are shown actually communicating with each other and actually teaming up to fight a larger threat. The new movie has I think two characters that actually have communication with the monsters as a major part of their character so I really think that the new movie will follow a lot of the same beats but greatly updated. I'm really looking forward to it.

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zachman2016 In reply to RenDragonClaw [2018-08-09 18:54:58 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I loved the trailer as well. I can't wait to see if next year. Ps this will probably be my last question to you, for now at least. In the future I may have some more questions about Godzilla id like to ask you, if that's fine with you.  Now keep up the awesome artwork man.

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Wolfbane-Kiryu [2013-09-05 01:52:46 +0000 UTC]

Holy shit i love you're drawings.

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RenDragonClaw In reply to Wolfbane-Kiryu [2013-09-05 04:07:48 +0000 UTC]

Thank you .

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Wolfbane-Kiryu In reply to RenDragonClaw [2013-09-05 04:13:19 +0000 UTC]

You inspire me.

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GodzillaKrueger [2013-06-04 15:49:25 +0000 UTC]

Amazing.

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J-Knight2008 [2013-03-08 17:01:21 +0000 UTC]

Cool^^

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RenDragonClaw In reply to J-Knight2008 [2013-03-09 00:59:41 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

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J-Knight2008 In reply to RenDragonClaw [2013-03-09 01:10:47 +0000 UTC]

No problem and are you gonna make final wars godzilla next?

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RenDragonClaw In reply to J-Knight2008 [2013-03-09 06:11:00 +0000 UTC]

I largely did two Godzillas because my first one was my first...and it showed and was based on the Showa incarnation, while the second was the more edgey animalistic Shisei version and allowed something of an 'update'.

If I come back to doing sketch studies it's unlikely I'd do another Godzilla. Hell, I've drawn a lot personalized Godzillas for people already lol.

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J-Knight2008 In reply to RenDragonClaw [2013-03-09 16:41:07 +0000 UTC]

oh xD

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AkagiGryphon [2013-01-26 03:48:54 +0000 UTC]

I miss these sketch studies!

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RenDragonClaw In reply to AkagiGryphon [2013-01-27 03:14:49 +0000 UTC]

Someday I'll come back to them...someday.

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AkagiGryphon In reply to RenDragonClaw [2013-01-27 04:22:26 +0000 UTC]

Someday, somewhere?

Over the rainbow...

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RenDragonClaw In reply to AkagiGryphon [2013-01-27 05:14:18 +0000 UTC]

Waaaay up hiiiigh~

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AkagiGryphon In reply to RenDragonClaw [2013-01-27 05:15:22 +0000 UTC]

There is a series of sketch study drawings that I heard of, once in a lullaby.

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KauijuMatt [2011-03-20 13:23:58 +0000 UTC]

I like Matt Frank's idea. If it were in a film, it would win an emy.

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RenDragonClaw In reply to KauijuMatt [2011-03-20 19:39:30 +0000 UTC]

Unlikely, it would probably get 'best special effects' and that's about it.

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xGOTHICxALUMIAx [2010-08-23 09:45:23 +0000 UTC]

Omg epic XD Well done!!!!

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RenDragonClaw In reply to xGOTHICxALUMIAx [2010-08-23 19:21:48 +0000 UTC]

lol thanks.

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xGOTHICxALUMIAx In reply to RenDragonClaw [2010-08-23 19:38:58 +0000 UTC]

No probs X3

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KaijuX [2010-05-18 10:15:50 +0000 UTC]

Well this response I'm going to say is about 2 years off, but...

What I was going to say is that why didn't you incorporate the GojiXMegs design rather than G2K's if you hate purple so much? From what I remember, GojiXMegs Godzilla suit didn't have purple spikes...

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RenDragonClaw In reply to KaijuX [2010-05-18 19:42:11 +0000 UTC]

Very true, I guess because the purple and green was the color that stuck to the 2K model the most throughout the Shinsei era. Personally having dark purple roots doesn't alienate me as much as the outright purple to pink spines did. That shit was mad gay and really looks awkward on a creature that has always had dull earthy tones to him.

Gregole partly convinced me of the color's validness in making a creature seem more organic. Dinosaurs were said to be brightly colored on occasion so something with high saturation isn't out of the question where the Gman is concerned. It just has to be more of a highlight rather than base color.

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KaijuX In reply to RenDragonClaw [2010-05-18 20:04:49 +0000 UTC]

Oh really? That I didn't know.

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RenDragonClaw In reply to KaijuX [2010-05-18 22:23:20 +0000 UTC]

Yep, from Goji X Megaguirus through the Kiryu saga it was shlurple purple on green with magenta spines.... Kiryu Saga goji also had the blank eye stare so I'm pretty sure he was mentally retarded. 2K, GMK and FW Goji were more true to the classic but edgier, creepier and slimmer respectively. So three out of three of the Shisei Gojis were green and purple.

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KaijuX In reply to RenDragonClaw [2010-05-18 23:26:32 +0000 UTC]

Oh... >_>

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a15godzilla [2009-08-02 08:15:18 +0000 UTC]

Do you accept requests on Godzilla art?

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RenDragonClaw In reply to a15godzilla [2009-08-02 08:18:10 +0000 UTC]

I don't accept requests period. They take too long and I don't get anything for my trouble. I might take one on if the concept interests me but generally no.

-RenDragonClaw

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a15godzilla In reply to RenDragonClaw [2009-08-02 19:44:08 +0000 UTC]

Interesting,well,ok,I might of had an idea,but thats ok.

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a15godzilla [2008-11-29 07:17:44 +0000 UTC]

Ive got it,Final war body and spikes,mix the Legend,and Neo ones together,and give him a nice thick Covering of SUper awsum scales!

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RenDragonClaw In reply to a15godzilla [2008-11-29 07:39:27 +0000 UTC]

For the most part, yeah. Thats almost how he came out .

-RenDragonClaw

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a15godzilla In reply to RenDragonClaw [2008-11-29 07:42:28 +0000 UTC]

oh,sorry,I thought you were still generating his look.

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RenDragonClaw In reply to a15godzilla [2008-11-29 17:15:33 +0000 UTC]

Its alright, I should seriously scrap these things when I no longer need them but people seem to like them and its much easier to find when its a deviation.

General rule of thumb would just be to check the gallery for the SD of that particular sketch study. If its up that means I already created a hybrid of it. Lately I've been taking it a step further and showing a full body of the hybrid before the SD. Its a good point of reference to work from.

-RenDragonClaw

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GodzillaKiryu91 [2008-11-01 00:18:51 +0000 UTC]

I love that Final Wars concept. It would have been awesome if they used that. He looked so cool! You should do a full body picture. Could you actually? I am using that Godzilla for my series. It is actually Godzilla Junior mutated further due to Burning Godzilla giving him so much radiation. So far I only have three things on it but am working on another.

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RenDragonClaw In reply to GodzillaKiryu91 [2008-11-01 01:40:49 +0000 UTC]

I'll do you a turn better. If you go through the Final Wars concept art on Tohokingdom, they have the full concept image that my sketch is based from. You just have to save both halves then piece them back together in Photoshop. Thats what I did when I created my reference page for that particular study.

-RenDragonClaw

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GodzillaKiryu91 In reply to RenDragonClaw [2008-11-01 02:20:28 +0000 UTC]

I do have the halfs saved. I have them on my gallery in halfs. Thanks. I don't know how to work photoshop but I'll get my sister to help. I would still like to know if you could draw him.

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RenDragonClaw In reply to GodzillaKiryu91 [2008-11-01 02:44:50 +0000 UTC]

Not really. I got too much stuff piled up and I'd like to move on with the rest of my series some time. There isn't really anything I could do different with him except stick him in a different pose. If thats the Godzilla you want, you already have all the resources you need. Besides, what your asking is pretty much a request, and I'm not taking anymore requests at this time.

-RenDragonClaw

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GodzillaKiryu91 In reply to RenDragonClaw [2008-11-01 02:52:49 +0000 UTC]

Okay. What are you doing with your series? I am not good at drawing so I mostly download pictures. I also do fanfiction. If your interested, could you caheck it out?

I will check out your gallery.

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RenDragonClaw In reply to GodzillaKiryu91 [2008-11-01 04:40:43 +0000 UTC]

I've been making SD versions of redesigned kaiju for little over a year now. I'll be sure check out your stuff.

-RenDragonClaw

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GodzillaKiryu91 In reply to RenDragonClaw [2008-11-01 14:38:46 +0000 UTC]

I'll check out your gallery too.

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Dark-Hyena [2008-09-17 13:56:31 +0000 UTC]

If you ever decide to do Varan, please check out my design from WAAAY back.

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RenDragonClaw In reply to Dark-Hyena [2008-09-17 19:46:16 +0000 UTC]

I already have it in an archive for reference. The SD Varan I did was mostly based on the Neo so theres a possibility that I could do a study of him some time.

-RenDragonClaw

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JacobSpencerKaiju79 [2008-09-17 00:22:23 +0000 UTC]

I think you should mixed it up. That what I normally do when I draw Godzilla.

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RenDragonClaw In reply to JacobSpencerKaiju79 [2008-09-17 00:36:31 +0000 UTC]

Yep, thats the Hybrid's purpose in a nutshell. Trouble is finding what parts of each one to put into it. Everyone has an idea of what looks good on Godzilla and often times its a compromise or something gets left out.

So far I got general spinyness, upright retro dinosaur build with trichamber chest, digitrigrade legs that are agile but very strong and heavily muscled, gator fluke tail, strong simian arms with four claws, three rows of spines that become one down the tail, deep purple spines with perhaps a tint of red on the tips, spines are long and jagged, eyes are a mix between animalistic and intelligent, 12 fangs with a double row of teeth, reptilian/dinosaur skeletal structure mixed with cat face, and tiny little ears.

I think that might be an acceptable mixture of traits for the Hybrid.

-RenDragonClaw

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