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Space is full of some weird scary crap man.Arachnids: The Arachnid's monstrous appearance belies their cunning; for these are no mere beasts. They are conquerors bent on destroying all other species with an army of engineered evolutionary horrors. Many times have the forces of man been besieged by these creatures, and they are not always victorious. Whether bursting from the ground with some great leviathan-esque horror, or managing to sneak right past our defenses only to burst from within our own ranks, these creatures are as tricky as they are deadly.
Chimera: Hailing from an unknown planet in an unknown sector of the Universe, the Chimera's technology is about 60 million years ahead of mankind's. They come, monstrous in form but shockingly intelligent, with the sole mission of wiping mankind from the face of the planet. Lead by Chimera baring the rank of 'Angels', they corrupt humans through use of a virus, making them into Chimera hybrids which serve the Chimera war machine. Those that are not changed... are destroyed utterly without mercy.
Now these two monsters, constant threats to humanity that they are, will try killing each other for a change. Both will try overwhelming each other through sheer numbers. The Chimera will unleash their deadly virus, and the Arachnids will constantly be breeding new monsters for war. In the end, only one will be left standing. Only one monster can survive. So tell me, dear viewer...
WHO! IS! DEADLIEST!
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We must also remember that neither of them have plot-armor; the one thing that crippled each glorious empire.
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my bet its on chimeras, they are killing machines, plus obey a hive mind, one single long leg, can take out a pack of aracnid, and both are greath enemies at numbers, but chimeras can infect more than just humans, they can infect animals, and other species, arachnid will be infected as well, being a simple life form, can be mutated by the virus
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Chimera for the win, no way the arachnid's hav the brain and tech power to fight them off when they couldn't even hold off measly humans after taking several planets
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Riiiight, because it's not like the Chimera ALSO lost to "measly humans", right? Oh, wait, they did - fuck, they lost to "measly humans" with World War One technology.
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The fact that the Chimera are really, really old doesn't really prove much. All it tells me is that natural selection has its head on backwards in the Resistance universe. If you dropped the Chimera in Warhammer 40,000, or Star Wars, or even Star Trek, they'd be dead within a week. Heck, do the Chimera even have ships? They're like the Combine's less successful younger brother that nobody talks about.
It wasn't all the work of the protagonist that stopped the Chimera. That's rarely ever the case in an FPS game, not even in Half-Life or Halo. It's made quite clear that the Chimera struggled significantly with Russia and even Britain (this is the same Britain that was only just getting over how awesome the Industrial Revolution was). Still, the Chimera won, after a few years. Then what happened? They started exterminating the slave races they'd created to help them win the war while ignoring humanity, and they got nuked for it. That doesn't exactly scream competence, now does it?
And just for the record, I wasn't trying to insult the Resistance franchise. It's pretty good, from what I've seen. But if the Chimera invaded modern Earth, we would absolutely wipe the floor with them.
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The arachnid's lost to Barney Stinson, and though their tank hugs r extremely impressive breathing a burning acid blast their basic units r fairly easily taken out by skilled gunners
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Constantly spamming over a thousand bullets like no tomorrow does not equal skilled gunner. Bullet spam barely even killing them equals FUCK THAT ARMOR IS THICK.
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That was not bullet spam their armor is not thick especially not by the standards the chimera work by, a few shots in the back easily pierced even the tank's armor and a grenade in the wound finished the job, they have almost no ranged combat abilities and are way to obvious in their tactics the chimera would wash away in a hail of bullets or whatever the fuck chimera weapons fire
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Plot armor; the only reason the tanks are killed, because they're only killed by main characters. Plot Armor. I'm not even arguing whose the superior alien though, the Chimera win by a long shot. They have technology, it's not going to be a long fight, I'm just pointing out useless facts because I'm a NERDDDDD!
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Don't forget the Arachnids overwhelm their enemies with sheer numbers and don't forget the tankers and average Arachnids are capable of surviving roughly 250 shots before death, sure the chimera have tech on their side but I'm sure the Arachnids would win
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I don't know much about the Arachnids, but what I do know is that the Chimera suck the big one. They struggled with pre-WWI Earth and then when they'd finally taken over, they starting exterminating the slave races they'd created which had assisted them in their conquest when they should have been focusing on the remaining humans.
Having more advanced technology doesn't help you if you're too stupid to use it effectively.
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Don't belittle the Chimera just yet. Yeah their main enemy was 1950s America, but the humans had tampered with Chimeran technology to improve their own weapons and even create their own form of super soldiers, so it wasn't just normal humans the Chimera were up against. And the Chimeras strength just doesn't lie within their technology, there are many different types of Chimera that could devastate the battlefield, such as the arachnid like Widowmaker, and the 300-foot tall Leviathan. The Archnids may have numbers on their side, but so do the Chimera. I'm sure once the Chimera release their plague, it'll be smooth sailing from there on out.
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I'm sorry, but if you're going up against a massively technologically inferior foe and you struggle with them long enough for them to reverse-engineer your technology and then kick your ass with it, then you don't really scream competence to me.
Now, like I said, I don't know a lot about Starship Troopers so I can't really say too much about the Arachnids, but I'd bet my money on them over the Chimera seeing as they were able to threaten a space-faring civilization while the Chimera struggled with a pre-nuclear race.
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the starship troopers from the movies were worse than the humans from resistance. they used the zerg rush strategy against a faction that had perfected teh zerg rush. they failed to use any vehicle support and they hardly use orbital bombardment. they fly their troops in with slow, densely packed formations of crappy craft when ht enemy has superior artillery. In fact, the planets they are fighting on are barren desert worlds that really dont seem fit for human habitation. They could have nuked the planet from space and reduced the whole thing to a nuclear slag field. I dont know how they handled the situation in the books though. But i believe the whole point of the war was to direct attention away from the oppressive government.
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OK, I'll take your word for it on the humans in Starship Troopers being retarded, but what can you tell me about the Arachnids?
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Awesome infantry units in close range. Their basic troop, the arachnid warrior, takes hell of a lot of fire power to bring down, can run 40 mph, and is about the size of a jeep. Supplementing their infantry are bugs that shoot blasts of heat and other weird support units. The arachnid infantry is what most other factions in the tournaments cavalry is. This is the arachnids high point. as a hive mind they are able to execute great strategy, and as a burrowing species they can bring teh fight underground in the face of superior airforce. they are a fast breeding swarm faction so numbers aren't a problem for them. They have the large tanker bugs for taking out infantry with extremely hot fluids, and the plasma bugs who serve as long range and anti-air artillery. Their elites are assasin bugs that can mimic the enemy. they are a rather adaptable force. This is where the advantages pretty much end. Their airforce is vurtually non-existent, being alarge wasp like anti-infantry and the other being a massive transporter bug. Their armor units are alright and able to launch plasma, but compared to factions with tanks or stronger armor units like carnifexen or ultralisks they are rather lack luster. They are also screwed if the brain bigs get taken out. Not sure if they are resistant to infection.
against the chimera they lose many of the advantages they have. The chimera have heavy fire power as well as numbers to counteract the arachnid infantry which is the best part of their army. in fact, with no airforce and a force that hardly differentiates, the arachnid army is really just a mass of infantry backed by artillery. durable, yes, but when you can concentrate all your efforts on the only part of the opposing army that really is a threat to you, thats trouble. The chimera also aren't afraid to go down into the tunnels and fight the bugs. theres always teh chance that nids can be infected by chimera. Overall in this fight, the advantages the arachnids have dont really matter all that much to the chimera. they cant be scared, they dont care about taking losses, and they have a ranged advantage over teh arachnids as well as a massive air advantage. they will also most likely start outnumbering the arachnids in short order.
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Well, from the description you've given of the Arachnids it sounds like they'd rape the Chimera without lube.
I'll admit that the Chimera have some powerful special units, but their standard troops aren't much better than their tactics. There's also the fact that the Chimera need dead bodies to make more of themselves, and that may not work with the Arachnids. I really don't see how the Chimera are supposed to win since they struggled so much with early 1900s Earth.
However, since you seem to know more about both of these factions then I do, I guess I'll have to give it to the Chimera since you say so. So, yeah, here's the concession you were looking for.
P.S. I'm Disagreeable.
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Heh called it !
You are one of the few people I have ever seen to remember "Whatever Happened to Robot Jones".
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Robot Jones actually brought me and my future wife together.
I am not making that up.
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Congratulations sir! Happy to hear that such an unfortunately short lived show helped bring something long term together 
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Thank you. Here's some RJ episodes if you want to watch them:
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Thank you sir! Ill watch it when I get the chance!
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That is the concession i thought i would have to wait for till the end of time!
IN even numbers id give this to the arachnids, in a straight up field battle. Its just that in this case, both sides are swarmers and the chimera are much more aggressive in their approach. The things that would be a weakness to smarter factions like the tau or the galactic empire are actually an advantage against the arachnids. Their relentless, suicidal charge strategy that would doom them against a smart faction but against the arachnids it is the exact kind of strategy one needs. Most would be too afraid to take the fight down into the tunnels. the chimera are not. plus fighting in the tunnels seems to favor the ones with guns. can't miss with your eyes closed in a tunnel thats only a couple meters wide!
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I was just reading through at Alliance vs. Chaos thread on spacebattles again. Good times.
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good times indeed 
check out some of the stomp pictures. Kratos vs doomsday comes to mind
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Do you still use SpaceBattles?
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I check it out sometimes, but i don't use it all that much. I prefer to let an argument play out then read it, rather than make an ass pull claim about a faction i know nothing about, then watch as the fans bring down the hammer. Though i do love seeing that happen to other SB noobs
Last i remember (a while ago) the trend was MoS vs everything, 40k vs everything, and Who factions vs everything. Whats the general trend now?
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Well, we don't have a particular "trend" at the moment, but a while back it was Pacific Rim vs. everything... we're still having threads about it... nothing else I can think of at the moment.
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You two were funny to watch. Either SB was judging everything a slaughter in typical SB manner or Zande was linking fanfiction from my site.
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I miss it, man. It was so fun.
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The Arachnids were originally believed to be mindless creatures. The Arachnids are described to have millions of years of evolution behind them and are, in the case of survival capability, the perfect species. As the Arachnid War progressed, it became clear that they have a caste system, with each subspecies filling a specific role. Brain Bugs and God Bug have extreme psychic abilities that can be used to control all bugs in the colony. Most types of the Bugs are less intelligent, except for the Brain Bug , Control Bug , God Bug , and the Queen .The Arachnids may be monstrous in form, but so are the Chimera and they're just as deadly. My vote is still with the Chimera, if they issue a couple Terraformers onto the battlefield then that's really going to be a huge advantage for them. Terraformers are used to cleanse an entire area, in which it kills anything within miles whether underground and or otherwise.
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Oh and I forgot to mention, Arachnids have the ability to colonize planets "by hurling their spore into space" to meet their requirements for survival. The Chimera can basically do the same in which they open a worm-hole to another part of the universe to either let more chimera through or to freeze the planet to make it more suitable for them.
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The Arachnids are able to keep scoring against the Federation despite the latter's idiotic tactics (and what is theorized to be a lack of urgency). The Chimera actually takeover the world, despite humanity displaying realistic tactics and several miraculous victories that could have been seen as turning points.
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it would be pretty badass if the chimera actually tamed some of the arachnids.
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arachnids will tear you to pieces and are fast, but the chimera have technology and weapons on their side... id like to see that.
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so who you do you think would win this fight scarecrow and why
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Personally, I don't find the Arachnids very scary. Chimera are like humanPLUS, armed with better weapons and a super virus. While the burrowing may give the Arachnids a slight edge at times (they could burrow under Chimera factories and labs), the Chimera would eventually overwhelm the Arachnids with tech, numbers, and a freakin' weather machine.
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actually in the film the Arachnids are not an actual threat to anyone.. just a convenient scapegoat for the federation allow its fascist global government to exist...
( because military based society with out an enemy that justify the military in the first place )
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Say that to the soldiers the Arachnids ate.
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no, my point its the soldier where sent to die in vain. the film is suppose to be a war propaganda film made by the federation (just like in world war 2 ) .dont get me wrong the Arachnids are dangerous but they didn't start the war or threat earth in anyway, as a matter of fact they cant even if they wanted. they dont haves the means to do it
the film alludes to this point early in the film when we are told the Arachnids achieved other world colonization by throwing randomly their spores into space and cross their fingers in hope they hit something somehow habitable
and yet the federation is telling it citizens that Arachnids throw an asteroid from the Klendathu-system
to attack earth .. a target that is around 100 million light years away from the Klendathu-system
and they did not only hit earth ( which alone is already a miraculous achievement) but they actually obliterate a city
so either the humanity is screw cause their is no way the federation can defeat an enemy with such an mathematical precision advantage (worthy of god himself)
or the whole war is a lie .. and the federation destroy it own city for the sake of having a never ending war because a fascist government system can not exist without the presence of an external threat that justified the existence of an army
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Well that doesn't really matter for this match.
It doesn't matter if the Federation is a bunch of assholes (which they are, no doubt) but about a scenario where these two factions meet, and fight.
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well ...it matter a lot cause it actually talks about the nature and the be behavior of the Arachnids in combat .. you want to know the out come of a fight .. get to know the fighters
you have to take on account that the portrait is completely fake
at the beginning of the film more than 5 soldiers cant take an a single Arachnid down.. at the end film dozens of bug cant bring down the main characters...and because this film is propaganda none of the information in the film about how deadly the bugs are is accurate
we could take on count the novel which aint suppose to be propaganda ..but in the novel the federation fight with power armors which are basically small mechs (static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__c… ) and the bug are implied to be way more deadly that their film counterparts
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(because a military based society needs an enemy that justify the military in the first place ) sorry I wrote that wrong
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