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The Prinz Heinrich-class Advanced Heavy Cruiser were four Völkian post-war heavy cruisers commissioned in 1948. They were the last of the all-gun heavy cruisers produced by the Völkden Empire. All four were decommissioned in 1976. The cruiser Raeder was preserved as a museum ship; the other three were scrapped.

The Prinz Heinrich-class were designed as a successor to the Grünfeld-class Heavy Cruiser. They were larger and carried advanced autoloading 8''/55 guns capable of firing nearly three times faster than those carried by the Grünfeld-class. 

While the Völkden Empire encountered very minimal aircraft threat over the duration of the Great War, Völkian shipbuilders learned from its allies and equipped the ship with twenty licensed 3''/50 anti-aircraft guns. The 1973 refit saw the removal of these guns, along with all of the 12.7mm and 20mm guns, and four of the 5'' two-gun turrets in favor of six experimental Close in Weapon Systems.

Over the 28 years of service, only Prinz Heinrich and Raeder saw action in 1974 by assisting allied ground forces with shore bombardment in La Lucero. 



Displacement: 21,800 t 

Length:
Waterline: 213.4m
Overall: 219.9m

Beam: 23.4m

Draft: 7.45m

Installed Power:
120,000 shp (89,000 kW)
4 boilers

Propulsion:
4 shafts

Speed:
33.0 knots 

Range:
10,500 km at 15 kn

Compliment:
1800

Armaments:
4 × 8'' three-gun turrets
2 × 6'' three-gun turrets
8 × 5'' two-gun turrets
10 × 3'' two-gun turrets
36 × 20mm autocannons
12 × .50cal machine guns
2 × depth charges racks
8 × 21'' torpedo tubes

Took inspiration from both the German Admiral Hipper-class and the American Des Moines-class heavy cruisers. The superstructure looks like that of the Bismarck's because I couldn't find a nice model or picture of the Admiral Hipper but I was told that an Admiral Hipper cruiser was mistaken for the Bismarck (or the Tirpitz, don't remember) and I have plenty of information for the Bismarck. Was originally going to fit an aircraft facility and catapults mid ship like on the Bismarck, but I didn't find it too pleasing on the eyes and took it out and just filled the space with more guns. 

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Comments: 20

ijnfleetadmiral [2016-07-11 18:31:35 +0000 UTC]

Nice!

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TheAbyssalSamurai [2016-07-10 22:01:20 +0000 UTC]

This is really good. Actually reminds me of a cruiser I built in a game.

vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/b…

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TheoComm In reply to TheAbyssalSamurai [2016-07-10 22:15:23 +0000 UTC]

Oh I remember this game. Loved to but I never got to play it though, since it's an iOS game and I have an Android. That being said you don't by any chance have a higher quality picture of it? I can't really tell much, the pic being 200x150 pixels and all 

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TheAbyssalSamurai In reply to TheoComm [2016-07-10 23:16:02 +0000 UTC]

This is as good is I can get it, unfortunately.

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Midway2009 [2016-07-10 15:52:08 +0000 UTC]

Incredible.

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Tzoli [2016-07-10 14:02:15 +0000 UTC]

I see and read it was heavily influenced by German and American designs with some minimal aspects taken from Italy or Japan.
I'm not sure why you need 6" turrets if you have auto loader 8"-ers.

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TheoComm In reply to Tzoli [2016-07-10 14:20:51 +0000 UTC]

Totally compensating Those 6'' turrets were originally the main gun turrets but they weren't too pretty but I didn't want the hour or two i spent on it to go to waste, so I scaled it down and shoved it in the side. Also from my understanding Germany preferred dedicated anti-air guns and anti-ship guns instead of dual-purpose guns, so I guess they could fit as the ship's dedicated anti-ship secondaries 

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Tzoli In reply to TheoComm [2016-07-10 15:14:48 +0000 UTC]

Well that is true they used single purpose guns but not on cruisers, but on battleships! It was not necessary to mount such guns on cruisers except if you mount slow firing large calibre guns like on the Deutschland, D and P classes or on any big gun cruiser designs of various navies.

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TheoComm In reply to Tzoli [2016-07-10 15:54:51 +0000 UTC]

Well in that case I don't have an an in-universe excuse for their presence ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I guess it fits with my tendency to shove more guns onto a ship than necessary . For example, this  ship's armed with 10.5'' guns because I misread the size of the guns on the Takao and just left it in after I found out.

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Tzoli In reply to TheoComm [2016-07-10 19:46:11 +0000 UTC]

Well it is your design indeed, I've just working and worked with many designs and proposals and got a kind of eye to check if a ship is a good design or not. Well apart from the 6" gun turrets and the aft deck break it is a good design. Though I find the tripod masts (or to be precise the forward one) somewhat not coherent with the overall look of the ship.

As for material for the Admiral Hipper, look at these:
www.google.hu/search?q=admiral…
www.google.hu/search?q=admiral…

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TheoComm In reply to Tzoli [2016-07-10 19:59:31 +0000 UTC]

Ah thanks. btw what do you mean by aft deck break? Also you mentioned the forward tripod to not be coherent, could you elaborate? 

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Tzoli In reply to TheoComm [2016-07-10 21:03:32 +0000 UTC]

Look at the hull lines of these drawings of mine:
Real newer were designs:
tzoli.deviantart.com/art/1919-…
tzoli.deviantart.com/art/Desig…
tzoli.deviantart.com/art/Preli…
Hypothetical requests:
tzoli.deviantart.com/art/IVS-V…
tzoli.deviantart.com/art/Kano-…

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Tzoli In reply to TheoComm [2016-07-10 20:52:13 +0000 UTC]

The aft deck break I meant that your design is not flush deck aka the deck line is not continuous from the nose to the aft, you have a break just before the 3rd main turret. While this kind of hull deck arrangement were popular in WW1 and into the late 1920's, early 1930's, it was abandoned by the time of WW2 and post war. Though destroyers still had this kind of deck but those had mid or front break due to the necessity of high speed and a higher nose required.

As for the forward mast, it just looks odd in my eye, it breaks the lines of the ship. Admiral hipper had a tower like superstructure and the forward mast was a continuation of it in it's back, while the Des Moines had single, pole masts.
Maybe their emptiness what caught my eye. No platforms for spotting rooms, or for searchlights, antennas, etc.
Look at the simple yet good looking and equipped pole masts of the Des Moines and Worcester:
www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/…
www.navyhistory.org/wp-content…

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TheoComm In reply to Tzoli [2016-07-10 21:30:08 +0000 UTC]

Ah thanks, for the masts I was using a picture of the Des Moines from WoWS since I was not able to get it to open and it lacked a lot of detail. I knew it was lacking but I didn't know what to put in. I also used this ship  as a reference but it didn't have much going on on top either. I'll certainly use those two to improve this ship later

Next naval project I'm aiming for a pre-dreadnought, either something along the lines of the Japanese Misaka or a French ship with tumblehome like the Jauréguiberry, with a mixed main battery since I hear those are especially atrocious (this is assuming I don't come across another design I want to mimic and drop this for another time again)

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Tzoli In reply to TheoComm [2016-07-11 14:38:13 +0000 UTC]

I see.

Well the Mikasa is a nice choice, maybe you should take a look at these design:
forum.worldofwarships.eu/index…
forum.worldofwarships.eu/index…
One is a battleship the other is an armoured cruiser from 1904/1905 a predecessor of the Satsuma class

The Jauréguiberry class is an interesting looking ship as well.
Mixed main battery isn't atrocious it's just at that time warships fought and had to fight at relative close ranges so the more guns can be fired at the enemy the better.

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TheoComm In reply to Tzoli [2016-07-12 00:44:23 +0000 UTC]

Oh I love those two designs thanks

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Tzoli In reply to TheoComm [2016-07-12 14:34:28 +0000 UTC]

there are many proposals which are unique in one or more things. British elevated quad turret, American elevated triple, Italian elevated quintuple turreted warships etc

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TheAbyssalSamurai In reply to TheoComm [2016-07-12 01:18:01 +0000 UTC]

I dont know if you would like this, but here is another predread BB that might strike your fancy.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brande…

Just an idea for you

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TheoComm In reply to TheAbyssalSamurai [2016-07-12 13:34:32 +0000 UTC]

Ah thank you. That's a pretty design too. I already have my basis down now but I'm hoping not to make just a single pre-dread 

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TheAbyssalSamurai In reply to TheoComm [2016-07-12 21:12:01 +0000 UTC]

Okay. Thanks XD

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