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Published: 2019-10-11 10:55:31 +0000 UTC; Views: 18049; Favourites: 202; Downloads: 131
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I'll give it a proper backstory later. This surprisingly took much more time than expected. I have plenty of naval assets I've made for WWII ships, not modern, so I had to make some stuff from scratch.
Didn't want to use someone else's helicopters either, so I ended up spending an hour or two making low-poly gunships. What probably took the longest time was actually post-rendering, mainly figuring out the final product and assembling it in. Decided on WoWS-style ship card, and spent an hour or two making a waving flag version of one of my flags.
Main basis is the Italian Helicopter Cruiser Vittorio Veneto, which is why I tried to have so many guns on it, though I had to remove two because the original thinner superstructure that was needed to have the guns at the side did not look good from the front.
As always the numbers are arbitrary (asides from physical measurements), so please tell me if something doesn't make sense and I'll correct it
Displacement: 9,600 t
Length:
Waterline: 188.0m
Overall: 192.5m
Beam: 20.6m
Draft: 6.8m
Installed Power:
75,000shp (55,160 kW)
2 gas turbines
2 diesel generators
Propulsion:
3 × Azimuth thruster driven by electric motors
Speed:
In excess of 35kn (65 km/h)
Range:
In excess of 5,000 nmi (9,300 km) at 16 knots (30 km/h)
Compliment:
400
Armaments:
6 × 1 76-mm lightweight guns
4 × 1 30-mm CIWS guns
20 × 8-cell VLS
6 × 6 Harpoon anti-ship missiles
2 × 3 324-mm anti-submarine torpedo tubes
Aircraft:
9 small helicopters (VV used hueys, but i made some modern low-poly gunship, so that's what we're using) or 6 larger ASW helicopters
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Love the look on this one- the big "Christmas tree" radar mast looks awesome on a ship like this. Nice work mate, cheers!
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Yo why didn't anyone tell me i forgot to change the armaments again?
Hold on
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But the aircraft this ship carries are fictious.
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Yep, though not too fictional, I recently found out that there were proposals to navalize the Apache gunship, have it deploy from ships carrying Harpoon and Penguin anti-ship missiles, so my navalized low-poly Comanche gunships aren't too far from reality.
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helicopters have more utility than VTOL jets, which is what a cruiser/destroyer needs. Don't think an F-35 can perform anti-submarine duties nor transport personnel. Don't think I could launch multiple F-35s off of the deck at once considering their reputation of sending whatever else on the deck flying, that is assuming they don't melt a hole in the flightdeck, especially since this is a cruiser, not a dedicated carrier, so the deck isn't going to be nearly as strong
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Add a few MV-22 Ospreys then. Helicopters have much less range and are slower. F-35's can land and take off from the America class amphibious ships, their decks are not that heavy (but have had to be made more heat resistant).
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Ospreys are huge tho. I could probably carry one or two, but I prefer the contemporary amphibious Sea King. Plus I have some issues with the F-35, one of which is not wanting to deal with expensive climate-controlled hangars to prevent the special paint from peeling off.
Also from my understanding, the F-35 can either take off vertically, or fly really well, but not both without aerial refueling. Not an issue with the F-35 itself, but an issue with VTOLs in general, it's why the Harrier rarely launches vertically but in STOVL, to carry more fuel. Would prefer not to have to be shadowed by an air tanker just so I can perform ASW duties.
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The U.S. Navy uses aerial refueling, the Osprey can carry such a kit. (Future development, which is quite advanced, will use the MQ-25 which has no on board pilot, but your ship couldn't unless you gave her an angled deck.)
The osprey is almost three times heavier than the Sea King, but it has far greater range and can carry much more and is over twice a fast. Both birds are old designs, I rode in Sea Kings when I was in the Navy back in the '70's, the Osprey of today was first developed in the '80's from earlier designs. Sea Kings are no longer used by the U.S. Navy as front-line units and are no longer being manufactured in the U.S.
Anyway, it IS your ship...
p.s. The F-35B's the U.S. Marine Corps uses don't need special hangars and the Osprey is perfectly capable of ASW work with the benefit of being able to carry far more weapons, sonobuoy's , etc.
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I am aware that the sea king is no longer in use by the US navy, the reason why I insisted on using it, asides from the base ship using it, is that the replacement wasn't amphibious. If you have served, then you'll have more experience on this that I would, I'm a son of an aerospace engineer. I do see the benefits of being able to float for search and rescue, but if the navy doesn't see it as a necessity, then my only claim towards the seaking/seahawk is the fact that I can carry many more of them (never said the Osprey couldn't perform ASW duties, im more than aware that a larger platform would do it far better, my complaint was with the F-35)
Alternatively the pictures im using might not be to scale as I struggle to figure out how to fit 9 hueys in the original ship's hangar, and thus I might be able to carry a few more ospreys
I am a bit curious about your claim that the marine's variant of the F-35 doesn't need the special hangars. Was told that the F-35 used a special, expensive paint that peels off when exposed to areas with more than 0% humidity for extended periods of time like sitting on a navy carrier. (was also told the fuel it uses is very heat sensitive and needs special storage, but I can't imagine any fuel source that wouldn't react poorly to heat exposure, so I don't think it's an issue)
But sure, I am remaking another helicopter destroyer I made a while back based on a french ship. The gunships featured on this ship are very low poly and took an hour or two to make, but if i have time, i'll try to make some low poly ospreys
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Your work is good, but your information about the F-35B isn't accurate. The plane was designed "to operate from austere bases and a range of air-capable ships near front-line combat zones." The Marines got their first ones in 2015 and have been using it operationally since 2017. I was in the Navy stationed with the Marines (I was a Corpsman), believe me, when the Marines say austere they MEAN austere.
Also, the U.K.'s new carrier, the HMS Queen Elizabeth carries them (at first with U.S. Marine pilots, believe it or not). Your concerns about humidity are unfounded.
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Well regardless, I have issues with VTOLs in general. All of the other allegations against the platform can be exaggerated or outright false, but the issues inherent to the gimmick make it a no-deal for me. But still, thanks for the earlier advice.
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Bitching boat totally the King of the seven seaa
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