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Published: 2014-07-19 04:12:29 +0000 UTC; Views: 1802; Favourites: 21; Downloads: 1
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Description UPDATE AGAIN: If you don't have anything nice to say at all, then be a good person and keep it to yourself, and leave.
If you want to argue, please actually I don't know.. argue with an open mind.. Please don't turn into that one guy that failed to argue on here all the time.
ANOTHER UPDATE: I disabled the comments. I can't handle the spam of bias comments that fail to further argue, ignore all the links (Including some studies), etc.
Not all comments were bad though.

Don't worry,
that goes for every other animal on the planet. I just make this (Involving wolves for now) because of something stupid going around and the fact that I like wolves.

Honestly, if treating wolves equally makes me a "wolfaboo" (A stupid troll term), then maybe I'm proud to be one! >_>
Though, from the term, I heard that it's about treating wolves "over humans" instead, which can be a problem.. Sometimes I heard it's treating them equally.. Hmm..

This stamp is something I am proud of because Speciesism is screwed up. Period.

So if the idea of "revenge" is OK when someone else kills another human without consent, then in the same moral sense under "Equal rights", it kind of makes sense to say "He probably deserves it". Why? Because if humans deserves to be punished for killing another human without consent, then the same must apply to killing a different animal because that non-human animal got killed without consent too.

But if someone says the same thing for simply "not liking wolves", but never killed the life of one, then that can probably be a problem. Haha!

Anyway, every animal (Including homo sapiens) has a life. Science proves this too.

Update: You know what? It disgust me to see people go against this. You type of people suck! How do you like it if aliens come down and hunt us all down because we may not be as smart as them? If "Intelligent" count, then maybe it's "OK" to kill people who are consider "mentally retarded" according to the offensive theory!
Speciesism and Anthropocentric is pathetic, bigoted, messed up, etc..
As for other things, lot's of study proves that a lot of the bad environment to other animals and even plants has been linked with "humans" (I.e. Homo Sapiens).
Every animal has a life, every animal is equal. Get over it bigots!

Another thing:
Good - Treating wolves as equal to a human life - as any other creature too
Nothing Wrong, can be good if you want - Loving wolves - You don't have to, but nothing wrong with it
Good - Stopping people from hunting
Good - Letting them have there land back

Bad - Thinking humans are "better" than wolves
Bad - Thinking wolves are "better" than humans I think - Though, currently in our time, a lot more humans did caused more trouble
Bad - Attacking those who loves wolves
Bad - Violating there right to live
Bad - Taking over there natural land

Generally Bad - Speciesism and Anthropocentric



I'm not taking this stamp down. Period.

Update done

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Credit of stamp template:
kencho.deviantart.com/art/Stam…

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Spread the truth guys!

Also, here is a article. I don't think I remember the whole thing, but it was something I remember by the title mainly though:
www2.webster.edu/~corbetre/phi…

blog.burningman.com/wp-content…

speciesismthemovie.com/

lesswrong.com/lw/i63/arguments…

"Those who think "Intelligent matter":
www.adelaide.edu.au/news/news6… "

www.ted.com/conversations/1520…
Look at the first comment

www.livescience.com/41601-spec…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesi…


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Other arguments - Free Will and Possibly Consenting

io9.com/5714341/even-animals-a…

www.psychologytoday.com/blog/a…
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Comments: 113

wwwarea In reply to ??? [2014-07-19 21:53:14 +0000 UTC]

"People get the term mixed up, they have to be super hardcore wolf fans to be a wolfaboo."
Hmm I thought you said they had to also (or at least) think that wolves are superior to all other animals or something once?

Being a super hardcore fan of wolves doesn't sound like a problem it's self.

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Little-rolling-bean In reply to wwwarea [2014-07-20 02:59:44 +0000 UTC]

That is a super hardcore wolf fan. 

Still, since you find animals equal, wouldn't it be wrong to you that someone would rather kill any other animal, even endangered, except for a wolf? Like, all animals can die BUT wolves kinda attitude. 

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wwwarea In reply to Little-rolling-bean [2014-07-20 03:17:40 +0000 UTC]

Oh you mean that a "super hardcore wolf" fan involves thinking that wolves are superior?
Hmm I think it's possible to be a "super hardcore" and not "unfairly" think about them in comparison to other creatures.

You mean the idea that it's OK to kill another animal but wolves? Yeah I think that's wrong too.. Especially if you look at the updated info I added on here.
I just put this here based off my personality, but not saying "go ahead and kill others thoughz". xD And the fact that there is this stupid thing going around too.

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Little-rolling-bean In reply to wwwarea [2014-07-20 03:37:06 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. It would only be fair if you were against wolves > humans and other animals like you are humans > wolves. 

All animals are equal, and human life is equal to animals. I am just surviving though so that is why I choose my species first. If I did think humans > animals not out of survival, I would support uneeded abuse like bear bile farming. You get what I mean? Animal killing should be a last resort. 

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wwwarea In reply to Little-rolling-bean [2014-07-20 04:00:27 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, the only thing I'm fine with when it comes to those offensive "over" points is if it's one of those "personal liking things" as long if people don't force others to ever think the same or kill based off that I guess. xD

Not too sure what you mean though, are you thinking "humans > animals" is fine for the idea of you surviving? I think you can still choose both but still focus on your own survival.. Like I don't think it means you are claiming "humans > animals" it's self though. Just a personal action of whatever you personality like, just as long if it's not interfering with other of the same or of a different animal. xD

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Little-rolling-bean In reply to wwwarea [2014-07-20 06:06:51 +0000 UTC]

You see, my loved ones are humans. Reminds me of a comment I once read:

"If you were drowning and someone dived into the water to save a dog instead of you, how would you feel?"

So when it comes to who I should save if a man was being attacked by a lion, I would choose the man. If I was in the victims place and someone decided to let the lion kill me, I would hate that. But if they had the idea of human > animal, they would save my life by killing the lion. 

Basically, I think humans > animals in a life and death matter. Like how you would pick loved one > stranger. 

When it comes to earth, what is important to the enviroment, etc, humans are equal. 

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wwwarea In reply to Little-rolling-bean [2014-07-20 06:12:56 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah, I been through this before I think..
I wouldn't feel offended I think because he loved the dog more and it's his/her choice. I would feel sad, but it's just as bad as saving "me" instead of the dog.
Problem is the limits.. Personality Humans > Animals may be fine.. While, I'm more of a little different, like if personality is fine, then I guess I'm more "Humans - Wolves > Other, but I don't know.

The lion thing is fine (I think) because it's about saving a life from being killed. I think I was talking about, don't force your personality of "Humans > Animals" to other people or promote killing in the "usual hunting, other" terms based off of it.

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Little-rolling-bean In reply to wwwarea [2014-07-20 06:19:58 +0000 UTC]

You might say that now, but if it did happen for real, would you change your mind? Though you have a good point. 

When I say humans > animals I mean good humans > animals. Animals > criminals. So if I saw a rapist getting killed by an animal, I would let him get killed. After all, criminals are far less important to humanity than animals. 

I also do not support, lets say, the killing of endangred animals simply because it is a human killing it. I have seen people support this kind of stuff because "we are on top of the food chain" and bs.

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wwwarea In reply to Little-rolling-bean [2014-07-20 07:00:57 +0000 UTC]

Well as a pro-anti-unequally animal person, I don't know. I would get upset maybe but I wouldn't think of it as "why the dogz?" I think.

Hmm I don't think it's still good to force any bad/good label of a "human" over an animal to others though.. I still think we shouldn't effect there lives by that personal interest (Anything other than self-defense or other possible fair things), or force it down people's throat. Otherwise if someone kills anything other than those fair things, I don't think it's a "good human" though.
As for "criminals". I'm not much on the same mind because I believe in "forgiveness" because "revenge" to me is very wrong, and doesn't serve any value.. I remember saying that it's still worst than nothing to seek revenge though. E.g. A person got killed by another, now the killer got death penalty.. Man made: Fair. Science: 2 people are killed instead of 1.
Unless the guy keeps doing it maybe. xD

And oh, yeah I think it's bad either way.. To me, it's bad to just hunt any type of animal not mattering on the idea of "endanger" or not. Under the idea of "non-human animal rights".

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Little-rolling-bean In reply to wwwarea [2014-07-20 07:09:46 +0000 UTC]

I wish I had the power of forgiveness. I know most criminals are a result of a bad life, if they say sorry once I might forgive but if they do it again later... I do not know...
At least you are not an ARA who is about revenge towards humanity for what we did to animals. 
Killing a human out of self defence is OK, and you should not be in trouble for defending yourself. 

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wwwarea In reply to Little-rolling-bean [2014-07-20 22:33:20 +0000 UTC]

There is always those "little criminals" (E.g. Those who violate the stupid "Copyright law"). xD And the theory that everyone is guilty of something.

Yeah I guess, I still have some "world ending thoughts" sometimes as the alternative to prevent further things though.

Yeah I understand, I mainly agree I think.

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Little-rolling-bean In reply to wwwarea [2014-07-20 23:17:50 +0000 UTC]

True

Nah, why would the world end with so much potential to improve?

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wwwarea In reply to Little-rolling-bean [2014-07-21 07:41:22 +0000 UTC]

I meant in a alternative way or something I think. xD

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Little-rolling-bean In reply to wwwarea [2014-07-21 07:43:46 +0000 UTC]

lol

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