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UPDATE AGAIN: If you don't have anything nice to say at all, then be a good person and keep it to yourself, and leave.If you want to argue, please actually I don't know.. argue with an open mind.. Please don't turn into that one guy that failed to argue on here all the time.
ANOTHER UPDATE: I disabled the comments. I can't handle the spam of bias comments that fail to further argue, ignore all the links (Including some studies), etc.
Not all comments were bad though.
Don't worry, that goes for every other animal on the planet. I just make this (Involving wolves for now) because of something stupid going around and the fact that I like wolves.
Honestly, if treating wolves equally makes me a "wolfaboo" (A stupid troll term), then maybe I'm proud to be one! >_>
Though, from the term, I heard that it's about treating wolves "over humans" instead, which can be a problem.. Sometimes I heard it's treating them equally.. Hmm..
This stamp is something I am proud of because Speciesism is screwed up. Period.
So if the idea of "revenge" is OK when someone else kills another human without consent, then in the same moral sense under "Equal rights", it kind of makes sense to say "He probably deserves it". Why? Because if humans deserves to be punished for killing another human without consent, then the same must apply to killing a different animal because that non-human animal got killed without consent too.
But if someone says the same thing for simply "not liking wolves", but never killed the life of one, then that can probably be a problem. Haha!
Anyway, every animal (Including homo sapiens) has a life. Science proves this too.
Update: You know what? It disgust me to see people go against this. You type of people suck! How do you like it if aliens come down and hunt us all down because we may not be as smart as them? If "Intelligent" count, then maybe it's "OK" to kill people who are consider "mentally retarded" according to the offensive theory!
Speciesism and Anthropocentric is pathetic, bigoted, messed up, etc..
As for other things, lot's of study proves that a lot of the bad environment to other animals and even plants has been linked with "humans" (I.e. Homo Sapiens).
Every animal has a life, every animal is equal. Get over it bigots!
Another thing:
Good - Treating wolves as equal to a human life - as any other creature too
Nothing Wrong, can be good if you want - Loving wolves - You don't have to, but nothing wrong with it
Good - Stopping people from hunting
Good - Letting them have there land back
Bad - Thinking humans are "better" than wolves
Bad - Thinking wolves are "better" than humans I think - Though, currently in our time, a lot more humans did caused more trouble
Bad - Attacking those who loves wolves
Bad - Violating there right to live
Bad - Taking over there natural land
Generally Bad - Speciesism and Anthropocentric
I'm not taking this stamp down. Period.
Update done
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Credit of stamp template:
kencho.deviantart.com/art/Stam…
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Spread the truth guys!
Also, here is a article. I don't think I remember the whole thing, but it was something I remember by the title mainly though:
www2.webster.edu/~corbetre/phi…
blog.burningman.com/wp-content…
speciesismthemovie.com/
lesswrong.com/lw/i63/arguments…
"Those who think "Intelligent matter":
www.adelaide.edu.au/news/news6… "
www.ted.com/conversations/1520…
Look at the first comment
www.livescience.com/41601-spec…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesi…
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Other arguments - Free Will and Possibly Consenting
io9.com/5714341/even-animals-a…
www.psychologytoday.com/blog/a…
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Because humans has a higher chance of a choice, to stop.. Though, I don't think it's OK for a wolf to hunt if there is alternatives.
BTW I think when I said "equal" I was referring to there "moral rights" to live, just like humans.. I.e. Natural Rights? The right to roam free and live.
Humans actually don't need to hunt, there are many alternatives to survive. (Edit, I said this before I read the part of where certain people are located Edit done)
Here is a interesting challenge.. If there was no non-human animals to hunt, no plants, and you had nothing left, but a dying human... What would you do? Killing another to survive doesn't sound good still.. I understand if you had nothing but "hunting" left but I don't think that means you should "kill another" to survive, it's sort of like saying that you must kill another human (Possibility) to survive.. Yes this was a "moral challenge" I think.
If it's wrong to do that, then it could expand to the other types of animals too.
And no? No animal is "less" important to wolves.. Didn't you read the info under the stamp? I would never use the "deer" or any other animal as an "OK" thing on here.
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Just to make sure, is that an insult or something else? I couldn't figure out what you mean. xD
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You know what, if these sick f**ks thinks that humans are "better", and other bigotry, anthropocentric bullshit, then maybe the whole human race should die from a comet hitting this planet in the first place.. Now we wont hurt the peace of all other creatures that are equal to life as to us anymore..
Speciesism is generally (or more partly) why I'm mostly an misanthropic.
Speciesism is one of the most unscientific, man made, egoist things I've ever seen, and we had it for thousands of years.
If we really were so smart, then we would know the fact that no other animal on the planet is "better" than any other, and it wouldn't depend on "what we do".
Seeing some of these comments shows that "humanaboos" exist and the fact that we are still far too corrupt.
I may disable the comments soon because what I'm mostly getting is biased bigotry once more..
I am NOT, however, taking this stamp down.
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You should join PeTA.
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Heard that place was bad, while I agree about "certain" points (e.g. Hunting is bad), I heard they promote death to "pets" or something.
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They put down hundreds of pets a year actually.
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Hating wolves or thinking humans > wolves makes you a bigot?
What?
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"Humans > Wolves" is bigotry (I might of used the wrong term but can be that, it depends) and prejudice.
Science proves we are also animals too.
Hating wolves? That probably depends.
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Question
Do you think this is prejudic and "f***ed up"?
"Normal Function humans > Mentally retarded humans"
If so, then it must apply to other things too because as science suggested... We are animals.
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Hahahah you sound like a wolfaboo!
And no shit, we are animals, but not with tails and 4 legs.
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Oh no, that troll term is used on me! That means somehow, I'm "wrong"..
Seriously, that's really your argument?
You sound like a..... Humanaboo.
wwwarea.deviantart.com/art/Wha…
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Seriously, if I had to agree with your bigotry and prejudice, then I must abandon science and join the anti-science cult that puts "humans" (I.e. Homo Sapiens) over other animals, pretend that human rights are the only thing real, and pretend that "humans" are "not" animals.
What I did, was use a lot of study and education to teach how messed up "speciesism" is, then you call me a "wolfaboo"... and that's it.
Also, just because we "don't" have a tail and "four legs" doesn't make your argument valid...
The front "legs" of a wolf are not exactly the same as the "back legs" btw. Yet, lot's of animals have similar parts to the Homo Sapiens.
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I'd rather be a "humanaboo" than a wolfaboo.
Hahaha Im no bigot. I know science, you don't. Wolves aren't like us. ;D
That's because wolfaboos thinks wolves shouldn't be killed and thinks some wolves are "friendly"
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Wow, no wonder this world is going to burn apart more.
Umm yes you are, being a humanaboo is pretty bigoted, prejudice, and delusional.
You don't know ANY science what's so ever besides your questionable, bigoted, and prejudice beliefs.
You even deny all my links, that suggest the science of equally, the fact that it questions our history of how we believe about "other animals", etc.. You deny all of that..
"That's because wolfaboos thinks wolves shouldn't be killed and thinks some wolves are "friendly" "
They shouldn't be killed and it's proven that some are friendly. Seriously, I just offered you studied articles and you once more, ignored them. What in the name of F**K is wrong with you?
People like you are why we don't have nice things.
Look man, if you don't know how to debate (All you do is bring bias opinions out instead of further arguing or agreeing the strong evidence) then just leave.
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Naaaah. It's people like you made the world look shit.
I know science, I know the facts. I ain't no bigot.
That's because they are false.
Hahahaha no it's people like you don't have nice things.
Okay then
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You failed to prove any of your points. I linked to a lot of studies that pretty much strongly disproves your points (Or at least tries to debunk yours with good evidence) and you STILL say nope, without further backing up your arguments.. You just repeat yourself of your hypocritical beliefs.
Seriously man, if you keep saying "nope" over and over again without knowing how to be in a debate, then I'm just going to delete your pointless (possibly trollish) comments.
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I ain't no hypocrite. Some people do lie.
Me a troll? Since when not agreeing with dumb logic makes me a troll? Ha, your buttons are easy too push!
Delete my comments, I win!
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"I ain't no hypocrite. Some people do lie."
Failing to prove your points further and repetitively making your claims with no connection to anything is an example of hypocritical I think.
You are the liar.
Now prove your point, how is "my logic" "dumb"?
"Delete my comments, I win!"
Who said that if I delete your comments, your arguments win? What the he.. are you even from this planet. That sounds just like a troll.
Edit: If you are going to do what I think you are going to do again, then I will block you for a temporary time. I don't want the comments section flooding with trash/no actual arguments from you.
Prediction:
You may say, THEN I WINZ, when honestly, that doesn't really make you win.
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I'm not a liar. I'm telling the truth
Because you think wolves can be friendly, when they aren't.
That's not trolling, genius. It just prooves that you can't take a heat.
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Dude, get out.. You are so freaking dull and full of crap.
You are doing what I predict. Making up stuff based off only your same beliefs.
You don't believe in logic.
"That's not trolling, genius. It just prooves that you can't take a heat."
What heat? I think it is you that can't take the heat..
When someone is arguing, and you want to argue, it's very important to "know how to argue".
Your claims are far away from the truth.. It's the devil.
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Fine I will leave now..... Bye!
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Oh look, the real idiot who can't face the fact that Homo-Sapiens are also animals, not superior, etc. oh and can't argue.
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Who pollutes the earth and makes lung cancer much more prominent? Who actually kills more people than any other species?
OP means that all species are equal in that nothing holds any real value. There's no actual basis to say that a human is superior to a tree. We all just try to survive to perpetuate the existence of our species. In the big picture, nothing means anything, at all. The earth will be destroyed when the sun supernovas like it was nothing. Because it IS nothing.
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That DOES NOT make humans "better". That's nothing but your "anthropocentric" mind..
blog.burningman.com/wp-content…
Your basically saying that a "Mentally Retarded" kids or adults are less important and should be ignored too because you think "Smart brain" matters when it doesn't.
Also, I added a lot of links to real actual arguments that may go against your bigotry mind in the main info.
HUMANS are overrated. Wolves are not even close to popularity and "overrated" is a stupid man made term; by people who think people shouldn't make something they hate, popular.
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There is nothing to laugh at on this..
If so:
The same must apply to "human rights" then.
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"Wolf" rights. =/= human rights
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Actually they are the same.. Because "human rights" is also a personal opinion suggestion.
The reason why I compare them is because "we are animals too" and that it makes sense to suggest that.
If humans have "rights" then so do other animals.. Which makes sense.
If we only have it to humans, then that's speciesism, and hypocritical.
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Human rights aren't opinions.
Nope. It makes no sense whatsoever. Wolves aren't like us
Holy shit! If animals have rights, that means we can't eat meat, we can't wear clothes, we can't drink milk, etc 
Lol nope. It isn't hypocrital. Animal abuse is wrong, but they have no rights.
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Actually the idea of "rights" is from an opinion. "Animal rights" are no different.
If we found a way to get meat from a machine then that's not true.. And clothes? How the hell does that violate there rights if you don't wear any? And maybe, I don't know about that.
Umm, yes it is hypocritical.. They DO have rights, and it's very hypocritical to think they don't but humans "do"..
You honestly can't go further with your argument.. I actually send links to a lot of things, explain, compare, etc. You don't go further.
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Nope. You're wrong. Human rights aren't opinions.
Then why you believe in animals rights?
It isn't hypocrital. It's the truth. They have no rights. They aren't like us.
You tried, but there's no proof.
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It's already proven that it's a "opinion"..
Seriously "no proof"? You don't have ANY proof, I tried much more better than you and you failed..
Your just one of those bigots who say: "Nope, bullshit! *Covers ears* lalalalalalalala"
Seriously learn to have an open mind..
It's not the truth and if it was, then "humans don't exist", that's the truthz.
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Edit to comment below:
Wha? No I'm not unless you are talking about "revenge punishment".. I was saying that if people should get punished for human killing, then it must apply to other animals under the same "moral logic" while comparing humans to animals, realizing the fact that we are also "star dust" animals too..
You always ignore the facts.
"If I was open-minded like you, I would be a dumbass. I won't be "open-minded"" So you want to be closed minded.. I'm really confused if you claim that you are "not" a troll.
Fail? You are the fail.. You are made of fail.
You even deny "open mind" which is very important for everyone.. Open mind is connected to a lot of study too... Good bye, go back to your little world that talks non-sense about this planet.
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No. Because bascially you're okay with hurting people. I will admit, actions hurt more than words. But still, human rights aren't opinions.
I don't ignore, I know the facts. I ain't no bigot.
If I was open-minded like you, I would be a dumbass. I won't be "open-minded"
Hahahaha nice fail example bro.
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How? Wolves aren't nice. They can bite you to death. @___@
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That doesn't mean they are unequal. You have to also remember that a lot of humans hurt them, and a lot of other animals too, and caused the world to look more "unnatural" as well.
Also, some wolves can be nice as I remember seeing some things about them online a couple (or more) times before.
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But they aren't like us. Wolves hurts us. It's not the humans fault for killing wolves. Oh horrible of me for knowing facts.
Suuuuuure....
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If hurting other species is what makes one less than another, humans would be the lowest of the low...
I believe what the stamp creator is trying to get across is that every species is just a lump of cells. We all die the same, we all rot the same, etc. When the sun explodes and we all die, it doesn't matter what you were, you're gone. The only reason we think humans are the best is because we're humans.
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I think I meant that too, I think I also meant that we are equal in the moral sense of "rights".. Considering that "Human rights" are ideas but since we are just star dust like every other creature, I believe it's fair to expend the rights idea to the other creatures too not mattering off "what we do". Though, some say all animals are smart in different ways which is interesting too.
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I'm not sure about that....
That's true, we can die in any random place, not just from wolves. I suppose you made a point there.
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First: There gens are more different.. Second: Not all wolves do. Third: Even if they are "deadly" all the time. That doesn't mean it's right to "hunt them", "abuse them", etc.. Ever heard of forgiveness?
Also, I think the humans are the ones who started all this mess.. It's not just wolves, it's pretty much a lot of other animals, plants, and environment.
I studied this and I always find the blame always leading to Homo Sapiens. >_>
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Where's your proof "not all wolves do?" Are you being unrealistic? They are deadly. All the time.
Ha! Forgiveness about what? The fuck are you talking about?
You know you have a point, both humans and animals started this mess.
K.
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Where is your proof that they are "all the time"?
I don't know if I can find the pages, but I heard it from individuals and I've seen pictures of wolves with a human, licking the human on the face.
There is not "proven evidence" that they are deadly all the time too, probably because it's kind of obvious that they aren't.
I don't know, I think due to all the studies I been through, it's safe to say the Humans are generally the big problem here.
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Because none of the wolves are been friendly.
Those animals have licking on humans are huskies, not wolves.
They are deadly....
I always thought religion exterminists was part of the problem. But I suppose you made a point there.
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Umm I don't think those were huskies, and they were under titles of "wolf" or "wolves".. Honestly if I had to join which argument to side on, I would join my own because all you are doing is claiming your "deadly" argument without proving it.. When I had actually studied things and got the idea that not every wolf is deadly, base off the studies..
www.wolveswolveswolves.org/Myt…
www.critters360.com/index.php/…
There has also been a study about "wolves learning from humans":
www.wired.com/2013/12/wolves-l…
Which could give the chance that some wolves could be learned to avoid hurting some people.
Edit: I just noticed (Or again, I probably saw this before) that this also has one of "those pictures" I been talking about. xD
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Those articles are so not true.
Wolves could be avoid by hurting people? Lol no.
K then
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"Those articles are so not true."
You are cracking me up!
Hahahah!!
Seriously, how old are you?
As for your other thing, I don't get what your saying.. The point is I think is that wolves can learn from humans, some may not attack a human, some will..
Prediction of your next comment:
"That's false."
That's it.
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