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here is a question if i export my vectors to PNG to deviant art would the vectors still look clear or pixel
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What bugs me generally is when people take a screencap, erase the background from around a character, and call it a vector. That doesn't even come close to qualifying.
For examples, just go to derpibooru and search under the tag "not a vector"
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wew lad that is always obnoxious, even more so than someone tracing over a screencap in paint.
The only thing worse is when someone uploads just a screenshot of something without any alpha or erasing.
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Hmm, seeing this was incredibly useful.
I always thought Vectors and Traces were one and the same, but this helps clear up the difference.
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if you have some art you don't have vectors of do you have to vectorise it before animating or is there a way around it?
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If you're gonna use existing art in animation, for flash-based you'll need to redraw it or vectorize it somehow. Raster images can't scale and skew and distort without getting a lot of pixelation and loss of detail. Plus, I know flash for instance is very slow to manipulate raster images, even just for dragging them into position.
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ok noted ^^ thanks for the reply!
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Just curious... I mostly use SAI for...well, everything, and I've always found SAI's linework tool to be easier to use and much less technical than the pen tool in Adobe programs.
I saw someone else ask about the linework tool in SAI and you said it's still rasterized, but whenever I've use it, the layer still needs to be set to Rasterize after drawing.
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When I had posted that, Sai hadn't implemented vector layers yet, actually.
However,Β Sai's vector layers aren't genuine vectors. While they can scale and operate a lot like them, they can't be converted to a vector format, similar to Clip Studio Paint. Plus, the pen tool in Sai (and CSP) are NOT pen tools--they're just brush tools with 'pen' as a description of their edging and shape.Β Β That's why it's less technical.Β An actual pen tool is something more a kin to the curve tool, basing itself around nodes and anchors and splines.
And even then the exports are still not vectors. I use vector layers for my lineart in CSP, but that's because they have the advantage of scaling and make for easier coloring/correcting. They're still pixel-based when I'm done, though.
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Just a small little question. How do vector something from a full screencap? Is it just like cutting it out?
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Not quite. It's a bit of tracing as well as reverse engineering (figuring out how the scene was composed).
You still have to make every component. If you just cut things out you're cutting out pixels, which are not vector
tbh vectoring screencaps though is limited in its use, there's only so much you can use Β it for
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Oh, I get it. I may try to do it, one day ^^
If you don't vector from screencaps, what do you recommend vectoring from?
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your own stuff, tbh, or freehand. You don't need something existing to make a vector. Vectoring something that already exists is fine and all, but that's really just a microchosm of what vectors can do.
Vectors are meant for extreme resolution images (e.g., say you want to print very high res or you want to make a giant banner) and scalable graphics. Most of my vectors are used in shirt designs and for animation, since flash uses scaling graphics and cannot easily animate raster content (or edit it at all).
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Oh, that's a good idea, really. I just hope that isn't harder for a beginner.
Thanks for all of the tips ^^
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Thanks for the explanation. I knew that vectoring was hard work but never knew what exactly was the process.
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Where would one purchase/download the programs mentioned in this?
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Inkscape is free, do a google search for it. Illustrator you can get from Adobe's CC program, single programs are like $15 or $20 a month.
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What about the linework layer thing in .sai? Is that not the same thing?
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Not at all. Linework in sai is still rasterized, no matter how clean it looks.
Some programs have vector tools in them, like photoshop, however they still output raster images in the final product. As far as I know, Sai doesn't have any vector tools either.
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Ohhh
Thank you for clarifying!
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wot
gimp is good for maybe tweaking photos
it's really iffy for doing art in general though. definitely possible, but the struggle is real
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x.x k lol I just dunno what to do with vectors or how to use em right lol
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well, that's why I made this infographic..
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egh not answering whats needed x.x
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If you don't know how to use vectors, chances are you don't even know what a vector is. It's all detailed in this graphic.
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On a side note, vector graphics have been around since the 80s through of computer assisted graphics . The fact that they started to become popular around the people who vector fromΒ MLPΒ it's because it's derived from Flash. And yes! Vector graphics are commonly used to design logos, creative typography and more because they retain their structure no matter what scale you use. I worked with the easiest of tools to vector since the early 90s such as Powerpoint, CorelDraw,Β Freehand and Illustrator.
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Thank you for clearing that up, I didn't even know
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They're very technical. Might be more complicated in some cases than raster art.
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They aren't complicated...
THEY'RE IMPOSSIBLE!
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only for some.... I've actually been trying rather than complaining.
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i wasn't complaining, just trying to be funny. quit trying to look smart.
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That was posted over a year ago. And it's kind of hard to look smart on the internet. XD
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Very good explanation of vectors, instantly lands on favo-list^^ really good that you pointed out that vectors are NOT a style of drawing and that making vectors can be hard as buck to be honest.
Greetings from here^^
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dont give up! Vectoring is an awesome thing to get into! and once you have done like 1 or two of them, you get the hang of it haha!
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Wow, I didn't know vectoring can be this complicated and yet very interesting. I might practice it for some time...
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Why do you say that vectoring is not a style of drawing?
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Because... it's not?Β A vector by definition has nothing to do with the style.
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How to you export SVGS to flash and toon boom?
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Just copy-paste them from the vector program they're in, or you can do an import of an .SVG format.
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Now I have a question for you Mr. Vector legend. :3
Is it possible to vector a car? just like you do to ponies? (:
Thanks.
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anything you can draw normally you can vector as well. You can make literally anything that's visual--and as a vector, it'd be easy to animate, even, if you have Flash to import it
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