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Published: 2016-09-15 01:05:16 +0000 UTC; Views: 2154; Favourites: 31; Downloads: 1
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So I've seen a lot of Sonic fans make this claim that people don't want Sonic to be taken seriously and then whenever he is, it's automatically considered bad, Well that's not entirely true. We do want Sonic to be taken serious, but at the same time we also want him to be the Sonic we love at the same time. In order for this to make sense we have to know what Sonic was originally made as, he was this cool person with an attitude, that's the Sonic most people grew up with and will always respect. You can put him into a more serious situation, but you still need to have that balance of serious and fun to assure us that his character we're following is actually Sonic. A good example of a Sonic Story that balances things out perfectly is Sonic and the Black Knight. That version of Sonic is so good because he knows when he's allowed to lighten up a bit and knows when he needs to take things seriously. If more stories were like this then there wouldn't be as many arguments about whether or not Sonic should be taken seriously. Now which game's story was the big reason this argument even exists? that title would belong to Sonic 06 (oh 06 is there anything about you that won't cause war besides the music?). A lot of people think Sonic fans hate Sonic's representation in that game just because they claim Sonic is serious, Well it's not necessarily the fact that Sonic is being serious in the first place, but rather the fact that he's not actually acting like Sonic. Think back to what I said Sonic was "a cool person with an attitude", Well they got the attitude part down, but he's not necessarily cool, sure there are some moments like the first and the last cut scene of Sonic's side where he acts kinda cool, but most of the time he just acts like this depressed character who's only focus is the get the job done. Plus Sonic was also created as a character who didn't save princesses like that nice boy Mario, well in this game that's pretty much his whole goal to rescue a princess. A portrayal like this would be fine for a character like Shadow or even Silver, but for Sonic? it just doesn't work. If there were more moments like the first and last cut scenes in Sonic's story scattered throughout his entireΒ campaign then we would have liked his plot a lot more, cause all we really want out of Sonic is for him to be Sonic, that isn't Sonic it's a Shadow android designed to look like Sonic. And you know those same people know that sometimes just being cool won't be enough either, we also need serious moments to balance things out, or else the story will end up like Colors and Lost World where they focused too much on light hearted moments and ended up with some pretty bad results. Overrall when people say they don't want Sonic to be taken seriously, they mean they don't want him to be dead serious. You can have him act straight when the time's necessary, but until those moments you need to remind us that this is the cool guy that we grew to love. Cause honestly the idea of a blue hedgehog who runs fast is already silly, but if you take that idea and make it grim dark with little to no light hearted moments, then it's just plain stupid. It's kinda the same reason TMNT wouldn't have been as nearly as popular as it was if it was always super seriously. Sure the series started out pretty dark with the comics, but the series success didn't rise until after the TV show came out which was clearly more light hearted than the comics. If that show never existed then the series probably wouldn't still be around today and the comic would have been long forgotten. Cause if people only want to follow something that's really serious, then they would probably be more interested in stuff like Batman or Spawn, not something like a blue hedgehog or a turtle withΒ nunchucks.Related content
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tanekxavier [2019-04-13 07:02:23 +0000 UTC]
thing is.. if they make him too edgy and dark, and he's just going to be an alternately colored Shadow the Hedgehog without a gun...Β There's only so far either way that Sonic can go in terms of attitude before he's no longer Sonic, but some weird carbon-copy of Sonic.
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MZimmer1985 [2016-09-16 00:14:17 +0000 UTC]
Sonic Unleashed was actually the perfect representation of the Sonic series in terms of tone. It was able to balance slapstick, charm, spectacle, and heart at once. It was like Disney Interactive took the reins, and made everything utterly lovable. Hell, it even made the 4Kidz actors give memorable performances for the first time, even to the point that we could forgive 4Kidz for getting Amy Palant for making Tails sound like a high-pitched Timmy Turner from The Fairly Oddparents. Sonic Resistance (I find that to be the best title to give this new game, especially since the word "Resistance" is teased at the end) would be wise to have that tone, and considering the Studiopolis cast is capable of more competent line readings (Roger Craig Smith gives Sonic more personality, although Jason Griffith could've done that just as much if he had the chance post-Unleashed and Black Knight), I think they have the chops to help with that and then some. However, Jaleel White needs to voice Classic Sonic this time around, so Sega would be wise to negotiate better.
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KnotholeKnuts [2016-09-15 16:50:58 +0000 UTC]
Nope they hate the idea of Sonic being serious they literately say stuff like "Sonic was too serious in older games" this go for the lighter ones that were not like 06 or Shadow like the Sonic Adventure games, Sonic Heroes, the storybook series, etc. and most of these are the same people who believe Classic Sonic is the symbol of quality and thinks Sonic Boom the tv show is the best Sonic show since SatAM.Β
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jacobsonic84 In reply to KnotholeKnuts [2016-09-15 17:16:54 +0000 UTC]
Really well that's strange cause I've seen a lot of Sonic fans say that they really like the stories of Adventure, Unleashed, Story Book games etc. Like if 06 actually handled a more serious Sonic well those same people would have actually liked it.
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KnotholeKnuts In reply to jacobsonic84 [2016-09-16 00:48:51 +0000 UTC]
You much of talk to the ones who other don't bitch about every 3d Sonic game they see or ones with an open-mind because if you talk to the Classic purist, Nintendo fanboys, or Colors era fans they will say that Sonic took himself to serious in older games (1998 - 2008).
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Psyco-The-Frog [2016-09-15 05:56:39 +0000 UTC]
I'm sorry but many fanboys have made the case quit clear that they were against Sonic being taken seriously, it's something they say every other day. Many of them also don't like the way Sonic is also, another point they made when they kept calling him an asshole in his other canons and only promoting the constant bad jokes he's been making since 2010.
You're basically wrong on both account man.
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QuestionMarkReviews In reply to Psyco-The-Frog [2016-09-18 23:21:13 +0000 UTC]
Receipts?
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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to QuestionMarkReviews [2016-09-19 02:38:38 +0000 UTC]
I think you forgot to type the rest of your comment.
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QuestionMarkReviews In reply to Psyco-The-Frog [2016-09-19 02:54:05 +0000 UTC]
I'm asking for receipts (proof).
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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to QuestionMarkReviews [2016-09-19 03:05:51 +0000 UTC]
Your asking for receipts to prove what people on the internet say? Do you even know how stupid that sounds, especially how this has been going on for years? And on top of that, you say it as if I'm somehow lying? Dude, lol, just don't.
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QuestionMarkReviews In reply to Psyco-The-Frog [2016-09-19 03:07:30 +0000 UTC]
Yes because if you were so sure you were right you could show them easily.
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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to QuestionMarkReviews [2016-09-19 03:11:58 +0000 UTC]
Yet you're somehow sure that I'm wrong, which is what your implying here. Anyone who's been in this fanbase for over a year knows this, you're literally the only guy who questions it. Think about that for a second. I know Jacob says different but he basically made 2 different groups out to be the same people to dismiss a certain claim that people have made for almost a decade. There's even an article called "Sonic and The Worst Fanbase Ever" that even backs that up. This is not about me needing to show anything, this is about you acting as if I need to. So you're either trolling or fulling defending another person's claims without having any knowledge yourself.
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QuestionMarkReviews In reply to Psyco-The-Frog [2016-09-19 12:45:58 +0000 UTC]
Have you considered that what people say and what they mean are two different things though? Some people that complained about Colors, LW, etc. didn't have a problem with BK, for example.
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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to QuestionMarkReviews [2016-09-19 17:43:36 +0000 UTC]
"Have you considered that what people say and what they mean are two different things though?"
And exactly how would you know what they meant if they what they said was a totally different thing? Especially a large group of people who spent over a decade saying the same thing? What you're doing is telling me that a large number of people are not educated enough to say exactly what they mean or just have no idea what they're talking about. If that be the case, you would have no idea exactly what they mean. You're logic is either flawed or proves that I was right about the many people I criticize.
"Some people that complained about Colors, LW, etc. didn't have a problem with BK, for example."
That has nothing to do with your argument, most of the people who do feel this way aren't the same group of people saying "Sonic is a blue hedgehog and is not suppose to be serious", and being repeated for years. I'm inclined to believe that is what these people still saying this mean it really don't have any idea what their talking about, and are not associated with the people who liked BK, I know, I'm one of those people.
You're biggest flaw here is that you assume two different groups in this fanbase are the same people, they clearly aren't, and again, pretty much proving to me that the vocal minority never had any idea what they were saying.
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GrandMetroViper [2016-09-15 05:03:10 +0000 UTC]
There's a way to do it's just to me Sega keeps doing one or the other and treats them as separate extremes. We can either have Saturday morning cartoon Sonic Colors or ultra serious Shadow The Hedgehog.
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RykouMaster19 In reply to GrandMetroViper [2016-11-25 23:19:33 +0000 UTC]
Or fandom trash ideas like Sonic Boom.
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GrandMetroViper In reply to RykouMaster19 [2016-11-27 04:53:02 +0000 UTC]
That's the mellow self depreciating Sonic with no effort or urgency.Β
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RykouMaster19 In reply to GrandMetroViper [2016-11-27 19:33:05 +0000 UTC]
I meant things like certain episode storys like Tails having a crush or Knuckles coming out of a cake.
Lastly Sonamy.
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