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Dalek drone: Necros derivativeA streamlined, stripped down prototype manufactured beneath the crypts of Necros. These Daleks were more power-efficient but lacked the advanced armour developed by the Skaro lineage.
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Not totally happy with this variant but I think more detail would spoil it.
[EDIT: FINALLY got round to fixing the awful wonky base that slipped through my QC process. Also, brighter colours]
Even the Necros Daleks are not mine.
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-well... for months I have been doing technical drawings in spare time, pretty much by blowing up and tracing Project Dalek plans on a light table... and with a bit of tweaking culminating in some effort this week I think I came up with a pretty good plan that gives the dalek both 1:2 dimensions for the slats (though I think it would work better as more of a wraparound "belt" sensor assembly than slats), and a 1:2 gunbox-to-top-of-midsection. The boxes don't meet the lower belt, though (aesthetically I don't mind this).
I actually really like it and if I ever get time I'll scan what I did and post it.
Yeah... I feel that I miss out on some gems from Big Finish as I don't really like using credits cards to purchase stuff online... had a bad scare once. A friend rips a few for me now and then, but I don't know what sites he finds them on.
Anyway, enjoy the holiday and enjoy "Asylum", be that showing today or tomorrow or whenever Saturday is in the UK while its Sunday morning in Japan... (?)
E
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I do encourage you to get a hold of some Big Finish audios, or at least not to turn your nose up at them if you ever get the chance. There are some poor showings, but there are so many gems that it more than makes up for it.
And I would really like to see your design. I'm intrigued - and I quite like the idea of a wrap-around belt of sensors/slats - I've seen some fairly effective 'futuristic' Daleks that use that kind of idea.
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You're churning these out like Dickens in a bout of sustained creativity! I come to Japan and you have a Dalek / Cyberman dry spell... seven months later, its raining the things! Now if you can JUST birth that New Paradigm of yours, and maybe a Time War variant, you have the whole cast ready in time for Saturday!
I was reading some of Kasterborous' comments pertaining to RTD's Dalek stories... found myself agreeing with you both. Yes - the most interesting stories that show off their nature are the ones that are out of left field or with unusual plots... I heard "Jubilee" on YouTube (before all that Big Finish stuff got removed), and loved it. Far better than "Dalek", in my view ("Spare Parts" blew me away... "The Mutant Phase" could have been so much more). You listened to "Jubilee"? The scene where the Dalek forces Farrow to kill Lamb was possibly the best thing I have heard in any Who media...
Just curious - bit of an obsession of mine, but these slats on the Necros - double the short slats = length of long ones? Hard to figure it out. Do any of your models do that, roughly..?
I like the black ball joints... as a kid I always thought the black eyestalks, fenders and suckers looked *weird* on these daleks... not "Bad weird" but somehow "just right weird"... and it seemed to me they Never missed targets. Loving what you do with all these variants!
Best,
E
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Well, unfortunately, I'm not going to have time to get the Time War or New Paradigm Daleks done by tonight. I'm off on holiday and can't take my big rendering PC with me! But I'm putting up the last two 'classic' Daleks this morning, so if it's not the complete cast, it's a sizeable part of it!
'Jubilee' is magnificent. I wouldn't say it's better than 'Dalek', as such, because they are completely different stories designed to do completely different things, in completely different mediums and they are both extremely well made and well acted. But 'Jubilee' is without a doubt the more unnerving and unsettling of the two - the scene you mention, the growing horror of realising that everyone in the play is completely insane...brrr.
And yeah, 'Spare Parts' is brilliant too and, as you say, 'The Mutant Phase' is not quite all there. Close, but no cigar. They get better with later efforts - 'Brotherhood of the Daleks', 'Enemy of the Daleks', 'Patient Zero' and 'Lucie Miller/To The Death' are all superb, if you ever get the chance to seek out a Big Finish Dalek story - and of course 'Dalek Empire' is an absolute tour de force.
Slats: the smaller ones are a bit shorter than half the long ones. It's all down to the dimensions of the shoulders and the arm boxes. There's not quite enough room for the 'ideal' 1:2 dimensions you're after, I'm afraid, and I think that's true across all of them.
And yeah, the Necros Daleks always looked weird to me too - unfinished, which kind of works as the point. Always preferred the finished Imperial.
Glad you're liking the series!
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I heard 'To The Death' on radio 4 a while ago- loved it! 'Is that the Mona Lisa?!'
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Given that the Necros Daleks were clearly just prototypes for the Imperial Daleks of Remembrance (IMHO the best post-Genesis Dalek story BY MILES) I say leave as-is as move on. You want them to look a bit less elegant and refined than the Imperials anyway.
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Very fair point. And I will be getting to the full Imperial very soon!
(Also, you're bang on the money about 'Remembrance'. The only one that comes close is 'Dalek', and that's a totally different kind of story.)
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"Dalek" was awesome because for the first, and really only time, we finally saw on screen how powerful and scary a Dalek can be. I once questioned Rob Shearman about it on Outpost Gallifrey and he said that he had his wife, who was not a Doctor Who fan by any means, write a list of all the reasons she thought the Daleks were silly (sink plunger; can't go up stairs; can't aim/shoot behind themselves; what are the hemispheres for; etc).; then he wrote the script specifically to address each of those points. (Yes, yes, Daleks first hovered in 1985 and climbed stairs in 1988... nobody seems to remember this though, least of all the British tabloid press.)
The one area where "Dalek" differed than the mental image I'd built up over the years of what Daleks were "really" like - based on DWM comics like "Emperor of the Daleks" and the novelisation of "Remembrance" - is that I'd imagined them to be capable of moving very quickly indeed, whereas "Dalek" had the titular drone being very slow but essentially unstoppable. I think this works better from an "unstoppable menace" perspective... Daleks aren't fast because they don't need to be. There's something much colder about something being so deliberate and invulnerable that it never has to concede anything so simple as altering its speed.
Unfortunately then Russell T Davies got hold of the Daleks and made them rubbish again. The only Dalek moments that haven't made me cringe since "Dalek" are their surprise appearance at the end of "Army of Ghosts" (let's face it, we all cheered), and Davros-free moments of "The Stolen Earth/Journey's End" (Daleks speaking German while flying through a forest = cool). Both "Daleks In Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks" and "Victory of the Daleks" were arse-gravy of the first order. (Insert standard New Paradigm rant here.)
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I figure Daleks can go fast when needed but they probably don't see the point most of the time. And they do so enjoy killing people...
And that does sound like an excellent way to approach the Daleks. I'm not sure the press will ever really forget the 'can't climb stairs' thing. Shame, but there is is.
As for post-Dalek stories...I think the main problem was that RTD used the Daleks as a major threat on a vast scale without stopping to have them be anything other than a generic alien menace. He traded off their image, rather than actually using them as the Doctor's greatest enemy. That's perhaps an odd thing to say, but it occurred to me today that the best Dalek stories don't just use the Daleks as a blunt terror but actually take the time to get into *why* they are so terrifying, in universe, and why they're so much the Doctor's opposite. Power of the Daleks, Evil of the Daleks, Genesis of the Daleks, Remembrance of the Daleks, Dalek - these all treated the Daleks as something more than just mobile guns and shrieking voices. There was a level of complexity to their use that meant you didn't *need* to show the massive armies and the giant saucers.
Of course, there's nothing wrong with showing those too. And, in fact, I would argue that Parting of the Ways is a perfectly good demonstration of how powerful the Daleks *should* be and, indeed, a well constructed story. The ending works for me, though I know this is a somewhat contentious view, because the 'deus ex machina' had appropriate consequences. Even if the Dalek army is scattered to the wind, it costs the Doctor a life. Thing is, in the ending also completely side-tracks the Daleks - the ending isn't *about* them. They aren't what RTD is interested in.
And then he starts repeating himself. I like Doomsday very much, and I think Rose's ending in that is fitting and right and should never have been undone. The Daleks in a slanging match with the Cybermen is wonderfully funny. The reveal, as you say, is handled beautifully. But all the engagement with the Daleks ends the moment they unleash their army of CGI clones on London. After that, they could be anything. Really, they could be any monster before that, excepting some of the scenes between the Doctor and the Cult. And that's the real problem. Their being the Daleks is window dressing in RTD's stories. It might as well have been the Toclafane for all the difference to the story it would really make.
Of course, you can't say that about Evolution of the Daleks, but that was just horribly misjudged, in spite of some cast iron brilliant scenes and images. You can't say it about Victory of the Daleks, either, which completely depends on it being the Daleks. And the story is basically sound and could really have been in the same league as the better Dalek stories...if it hadn't all been compressed into a 45 minute episode and lumbered with five massive lumps of fanboy and meme bait.
Ah well. Here's to what might have been.
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It's the "Borg Effect"... they were used VERY sparingly in TNG, appearing in only six episodes out of 170-odd, because they were deadly and unstoppable - an almost legendary threat to end all threats. By the time Voyager needed a ratings boost the production team caved to fanwankism and the Borg literally became just another monster-of-the-week, showing up everywhere with a whole plethora of hitherto-unrevealed quirks and weaknesses. The problem with powerful adversaries is that you HAVE to use them sparingly because it strains credibility when they keep losing despite an overwhelming advantage. "Dalek" did this well because the Doctor and the Dalek talk often, but after that first crowning moment of awesome in the Dalek's cell they only communicate through video link, only actually coming face-to-face again at the end of the story when the narrative doesn't require any convenient handwaving to explain why the Dalek doesn't exterminate the Doctor on sight. Now when the Doctor is facing off against an entire squadron of Daleks and he's armed only with bluffs and biscuits you have to wonder why they don't just shoot him and have done with it. At least the trailers for "Asylum of the Daleks" hint at a very tantalising answer this time round...
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Indeed...looks like it could be a really good ride.
I agree about the Borg effect - it's actually an argument for having small groups of Daleks fighting the Doctor.
I always thought the Stolen Earth story should have ended with the Doctor scrambling the Daleks' power supply or some-such, then bringing the entire Shadow Proclamation flying in to shoot the ships down. Just...something to show that even the Doctor needed help with such a massive force of Daleks.
Never mind though - I'm looking forward to Saturday!
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Not even such a massive force of Daleks could hope to withstand Tennant's overacting and Russell T Davies' self-congratulatory machinations.
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I like it alot, even the little dot, a little bit like a pupal, adds to the human nature of the Necros Daleks 
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Hadn't thought of it that way - it's done like an 'Aperture Science' eye, with a ring of lights, and I was trying to make it look more mechanical - but I guess the link to the human material inside works too!
Glad you like it!
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No prob, I'm curious about what your idea would be for The Supreme Council, or maybe Dalek Prime (a cross between The supreme Dalek and the Emperor) oooh, the emperor's guard :S or an executioner? haha xD
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I think every Dalek counts as an executioner...
Not sure about the Supreme Council. I have a few ideas in that direction but don't know if I'll follow through on them. No Dalek Prime - I think it's an unnecessary concept when you already have the Emperor.
Emperor's guards, or at least the Black-domed Elite, are a certainty.
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